Josh Taylor already put on 16lbs dudes a weigh bully and proud of it

Yeah I noted Taylor before for this. I don't blame fighters for taking advantage of the rules though - unless there's good reason to suspect they're cheating. Answer is to change the rules. Same day weigh ins.:dunno: Is that a good idea though? Without rehydrating properly any punch that can cause brain damage can be life threatening and they won't be perform at full capacity. Meaning they will struggle even further to defend themselves. Though it might force fighters to actually contend at their proper weight class.

Teo has a big frame, wide back full muscle bellies. He’ll rehydrate another 10-12lbs himself

But Teo could produce a hit-and-don't-get-hit boxing masterclass against a heavy Taylor, what do you say? I think Lopez has put on his fair share since he was 140 in his birthday suit!

Weight draining tactics are damaging to the fighter physiologically 'Even if they do execute the tactics for awhile and gain some sort of perceived benefit on fight night'. But yes, YOU are saying nothing wrong in your post 'I have not really got a issue with the main points your are making'. There is a fighter called Anthony Fowler who has just recently retired. And he has basically admitted one of the factors which brought on his retirement was constantly weight draining himself. I personally believe he lost fights due to his conditioning being negatively effected by his weight draining tactics 'He has admitted this himself' etc Well yeah I agree, this strategy is unhealthy and will affect the fighters negatively long term. They will likely have less of a pain threshold/durability, reflexes and have a lower punch output. Once they move up, they have to face opponents at their athletic prime and readjust their style that is tailored to fight smaller opponents. It's one of the reasons why modern professional boxers are getting dramatically worn down despite only fighting 1-2 times a year. Along with over excessive long training camps.

Yeah I noted Taylor before for this. I don't blame fighters for taking advantage of the rules though - unless there's good reason to suspect they're cheating. Answer is to change the rules. Same day weigh ins.:dunno:

I think weight gain wasn't an issue until Arturo Gatti gained like 21lbs overnight to face Joey Gamache and almost killed him. I believe after that fight, they said you can't gain more than 17lbs? Not sure the official ruling.

I am not advocate for it, and I am aware of the consequences. But before it eventually backfires on those fighters, they do possess more punch resistance, height/reach, and power compared to other fighters that do belong at their division. I do think plenty of fighters do take advantage of modern nutrition with the intention of holding a substantial weight advantage. Reason why when fighters like Ryan, Haney and Teo fought fighters around their size range, they didn't look great. Weight draining tactics are damaging to the fighter physiologically 'Even if they do execute the tactics for awhile and gain some sort of perceived benefit on fight night'. But yes, YOU are saying nothing wrong in your post 'I have not really got a issue with the main points your are making'. There is a fighter called Anthony Fowler who has just recently retired. And he has basically admitted one of the factors which brought on his retirement was constantly weight draining himself. I personally believe he lost fights due to his conditioning being negatively effected by his weight draining tactics 'He has admitted this himself' etc.

Show me where Teo is 15lb over? Taylor will be 20lbs + come fight time he's a typical UK cheat. What are you on about cheat, now making weight by the rules is cheating wtf is that. Manny would do 15lbs as a 130 fighter and he is 5 inches shorter than Josh, from 10 to 15 pounds is about the average elite guys will gain when fighting at their lightest weight, guys that push the limits can gain 15 to 25 pounds, when they weigh in they are totally empty of excess fluid, no half baked turd juice, not a drop of urine, no stomach content and water deprived thick blood, they gain a lot of weight in these areas first that's why they can gain really quick then it slows right down as the blood fluid balance takes longer to be absorbed, Josh may gain only a few more pounds from that video which in the range 140 guys do, below 160 they really draw themselves down and do big gains, its pretty easy to go from 130 to 147 because they around 147 on fight night with 130 weigh-ins. {"alt":"Click image for larger version Name:\tx720.jpg Views:\t1 Size:\t246.5 KB ID:\t31891490","data-align":"none","data-attachmentid":"31891490","data-size":"full","title":"x720.jpg"}

Nope, I said so long as he follows the rules. If you don't like it, change the rules. I had a problem with Tank's a-side BS, in fact. Ah okay. Cool beans

Take advantage? These fighters are in worst condition than old school fighters 'Who trained and competed under the same day weigh in rule. And due to these conditions they were unable to weight drain themselves to such a extreme extent'. The Toxic Weight draining culture, does eventually back fire on a fighters conditioning. It back fired on Teofimo Lopez, and that is the reason why he moved up to 140 pounds. Maybe this fight tonight, could be a fight too far for Taylor weight draining himself by such a extent. Note: Not all modern day fighters weight drain themselves. Floyd Mayweather Junior, Bernard Hopkins and Carl Froch were fighters who were well known not to weight drain themselves extensively 'And overall those training habits helped improve their longevity in the game' etc. I am not advocate for it, and I am aware of the consequences. But before it eventually backfires on those fighters, they do possess more punch resistance, height/reach, and power compared to other fighters that do belong at their division. I do think plenty of fighters do take advantage of modern nutrition with the intention of holding a substantial weight advantage. Reason why when fighters like Ryan, Haney and Teo fought fighters around their size range, they didn't look great.

Weren't you moaning about Haney being a 'weight bully'? Nope, I said so long as he follows the rules. If you don't like it, change the rules. I had a problem with Tank's a-side BS, in fact.

I think plenty of fighters (Teofimo included at 130) take advantage of modern nutrition and conditioning to cut/rehydrate more. But yeah it is clear that Taylor holds the size advantage by a large margin. Take advantage? These fighters are in worst condition than old school fighters 'Who trained and competed under the same day weigh in rule. And due to these conditions they were unable to weight drain themselves to such a extreme extent'. The Toxic Weight draining culture, does eventually back fire on a fighters conditioning. It back fired on Teofimo Lopez, and that is the reason why he moved up to 140 pounds. Maybe this fight tonight, could be a fight too far for Taylor weight draining himself by such a extent. Note: Not all modern day fighters weight drain themselves. Floyd Mayweather Junior, Bernard Hopkins and Carl Froch were fighters who were well known not to weight drain themselves extensively 'And overall those training habits helped improve their longevity in the game' etc.

My homo primo used suck ice cubes to rassle in california now he is a diabetic blob of lard the physical cost to make weight and the long term hazards im no doctor but seeing guys cut weight dehydrated then iv invigorating is not good

Teo never fought at 130 in the pros. Lol My Autocorrect switched 135>130, not sure why.

I don't think there will be a big difference in weight, to be honest. 5 pounds, maybe less Weren't you moaning about Haney being a 'weight bully'?

I think plenty of fighters (Teofimo included at 130) take advantage of modern nutrition and conditioning to cut/rehydrate more. But yeah it is clear that Taylor holds the size advantage by a large margin. Teo never fought at 130 in the pros. Lol

I think plenty of fighters (Teofimo included at 130) take advantage of modern nutrition and conditioning to cut/rehydrate more. But yeah it is clear that Taylor holds the size advantage by a large margin.

and you think teo isn't 10-15 lbs heavier? Lmao Show me where Teo is 15lb over? Taylor will be 20lbs + come fight time he's a typical UK cheat.

{"data-align":"none","data-size":"large","data-attachmentid":31891342} danny only weighted 170 v pirog years ago when got sparko out, so he decided to perfect the rehydration game possibly

{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","data-attachmentid":31891321} ggg putting on 10 pounds tank davis also puts on 10 pounds at lightweight which i presume is actually about average for 135, i think 10 pounds for 160 is a bit smaller than average actually if tank is putting on 10 at 135 and hes considered a small guy but maybe hes not, hes probable average for 135 actually