How would you change boxing scoring/judging if you could change it?

Kev2y ago

If it was up to me, remove the 3 judges, keep the ref obviously. Implement open scoring (of punches landed) like literally every other sport. Certain punches equal certain points, like other sports. Knock downs equals the most points. Jab landed = 1 point Other than jab landed = 2 points Fighter was badly hurt/wobbled = 2.5 points for the punch that caused it Knock down = 3 points Get rid of the 10 to winner, 9 to loser scoring system. If you suffer a KD and get fcked up in a round, no, you don’t deserve 8 points. 8 points for what? Just for showing up? Allow punch counters to score what punches landed in real time, but also allow other punch counters to watch replays to make sure said punches landed. Deduct or add points accordingly. Allow boxers to know if they are winning or losing. Even baseball, one of the most stubborn sports in America, that refuses to do away with many of their outdated officiating ways, have changed the game drastically in the last 10 years. It’s time for boxing to do the same. 3 people judging a fight based on what they saw is way too backwards. Especially when these 3 people judging a fight are known beforehand, and announced to all parties, all bettors know, all influential people know. These 3 judges are just people, they can be spoken to, they can be contacted, they can be compromised by rich people.

Comments (20)

BodyBagz

Open scoring some people calling for. 100% no. A fighter knowing after each round would ruin boxing where fighters try to protect a lead they have or waste time go defensive etc The loser will have to step it up or allow the winner to rest on the lead. In NFL, when a team has a huge lead, the winning team tries to use up as much time as possible. Not really trying to score. In MLB, starters are replaced with bench players. Sometimes the loser will snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. Doesn't happen often but when it does, it's quite thrilling :boxing: Making the score of EACH RD official as opposed to subjective is long overdue.

2y ago

BodyBagz

Equip judges with state of the art monitors and headsets that can cancel out the audience. Watching the fighters in the ring is stupid. Give punches their worth - Jab 1 pt Body 2 pts Hook 3 pts Uppercut 4 pts Combos (IE, Jab, Hook 2x) = 7 pts I'm on the fence in how to score KDs....Not every KD should be an automatic rd winner. Between rds, judges can replay whatever portion of a rd they want in FF/Slo Mo/Pause modes. They can now see whether or not a punch misses completely, is deflected or hits a non scoring part of the body. They can correct a ref, between rds, if a knockdown was actually a push down or slip, if it was ruled as a KD. Also, an extra 2 min rd to settle draws. Again, every other sport has a system in place to try and find a winner. I never did like the even rd style. Once we give judges the best possible view, we can then develop a scoring system and not be ashamed to display it.

2y ago

Toffee

5 judges will always be better than 3. And I'm still not convinced that ringside is the best place to judge a fight. But the system isn't really that broken. Competent and honest judges... That's enough for me.

2y ago

Kev

Open scoring some people calling for. 100% no. A fighter knowing after each round would ruin boxing where fighters try to protect a lead they have or waste time go defensive etc Every other sports know if they’re winning or losing instantly.

2y ago

Kev

Get rid of Moretti and Weeks as a start... They’ll be replaced by another Moretti and Weeks. As long as you have the same scoring system, it doesn’t matter who you place there.

2y ago

Boxing_112

Open scoring some people calling for. 100% no. A fighter knowing after each round would ruin boxing where fighters try to protect a lead they have or waste time go defensive etc

2y ago

Roadblock

2y ago

BOJACK

Just bring back the 15 round fights and you'll be good to go. Make sure there are no even rounds, so there will always be a clear winner. It'll make the guys fight harder, leading to more enjoyable fights.

2y ago

BustedKnuckles

1. Open scoring round by round. Maybe this would lead some fighters to just cruise to a win. But its a lot better than so many hidden card robberies. 2. Ref/judge accountability and grading or something like that, based on performance. Right now it's like professors with tenor; no matter how badly they perform, nobody gets rid of them. 3. Zero visible connections between promoters and judges. No gifts and dinners. No godfathers of promoters kids. It's an ibvious conflict of interest.

2y ago

The_D3vil

Well until we can just let A.I. decide fights, I say we should have a panel of 11 or so judges made up of journalists, fighters, and impartial judges

2y ago

Toffee

Using tech is obvious and would be trivially easy to implement because they're already doing it on the telecast anyways for "unofficial" checks of calls. People who don't think there are robberies in controversial fights need to ask themselves why these simple things haven't been introduced and implemented. Them not being implemented yet isn't quite the smoking gun it appears to be. Going to video review is a slippery slope once you start down it. Look at soccer. It's never going to be the same again. It's just as controversial as ever. There are more allegations of corruption than before. Remember the Moloney-Franco fight? 30 minutes of video review and they still reached a disgracefully incorrect decision. The greatest example of official match fixing I've seen live. Once you start checking things you need to protect yourself. That's why soccer matches stop for minutes to review decisions... it's not to reach the right one, it's to protect themselves from the process being questioned. Careful what you wish for. To quote a great band... "Surely a bit of controversy is part of the game's appeal".

2y ago

Nash_out

2 judges ringside, 3 judges watching the fight in a room on TV, and in the event of a draw, a phone call to the Great Nash to ask him who won the fight. No more draws. Nash out

2y ago

MEGA

10-10 rounds and more 10-8 rounds. for example: if you had more 10-10 rounds then basically 6 out of 12 rounds would have been 10-10 for Loma vs Haney. You would have had a couple of 10-9 rounds each way and a couple of 10-8 rounds for loma. don’t get me wrong, Haney won by my cards. But he got beat up at the end of a fight that was pretty much even.

2y ago

crimsonfalcon07

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/754354-instant-video-replay-to-be-used-for-first-time-in-boxing-officiating.amp.html Here's another point: Vegas pretended back in 2011 to be using instant replays. But Barroso v Romero took place in Vegas and replays were not being used officially as in theory they were supposed to be according to this rule change. Anyone care to venture a guess as to why not?

2y ago

crimsonfalcon07

It has nothing to do with a point for this and that, its seeing the same fight that is the issue, judges sit in 3 places all with a different views so they will see things the others don't and so the scores can really be wild for us who see the same fight from the same view, how to fix it is give them each a monitor that also shows the telecast muted, bring in trial by the camera when things can be overruled instantly, make it five judges in championship fights 1 on every side and the 5th in a room with only the telecast. Would be very hard to cheat that system and its not money as big fights could easily afford the extra judges, boxing needs to move with the times it's a digital age and it can be so useful in making accurate calls as we see its use in other sports. Using tech is obvious and would be trivially easy to implement because they're already doing it on the telecast anyways for "unofficial" checks of calls. People who don't think there are robberies in controversial fights need to ask themselves why these simple things haven't been introduced and implemented.

2y ago

Smash

i would say u would need a more impartial pool of judges, for example u have 3 americans on every fight in vegas seems to me a bit odd, how can that work out right i cant see it an international pool of judges trained up and have to pass tests to get a place & are actually accountable and judged on performances and punished for bad ones compubox on steroids, possibly a few people hitting the buttons for every scoring punch, logged for time in the round so people can assess how accurate they are using replays, for example if some clown is hitting a button for non scoring punches this will be seen, maybe even display these incoming results in real time if viewers wish to see it, just with a little colour button flash on the screen maybe, use tech more 5 judges and get rid of the wildest 2 scores each round to make corruption harder im sure smart people can come up with way better suggestions and learn from other sports

2y ago

TelMex

Get rid of Moretti and Weeks as a start...

2y ago

Roadblock

2y ago

JosephHH

More than three judges, maybe? It's never felt quite right leaving fight decisions to such a small number of individuals.

2y ago

4truth

I'd add a decimal place to the scores. Win a round clearly 10-9 round. Eke it out, you get less. Maybe it's only a 10-9.8 round. Edit. If you aren't sharp enough to do the math, maybe judging professional boxing isn't for you.

2y ago