I can see a similar pattern of fight, Spence in the role of Hearns and Crawford in the role of SRL.
Spence builds up an early lead behind his jab and control of distance, wouldn't be surprised if he wobbles Crawford and catches him reaching, in the second half I can see Crawford turning full attack mode and getting to Spence.
If it goes the distance I see Spence potentially hanging on for a close decision or Crawford by late stoppage.
what do people think?
The times were different, you wasn't there its a totally different landscape across the world in all sports, those old-time fighters would fit in today like a glove and do exactly what everybody else is doing with managers, promoters networks, the list of modern sport roadblocks is a mile long around the big fights, it was no different back then the top guys wanted the big dollar it wasn't available in the amounts anything like it is today.
And anyway to the point both TC and Crawford have killer mindsets, don't get caught up in all the romance and hype with time, most writers were not there, time has a way of embellishing itself.
Nostalgia being what it is, it's undeniable that, by and large, the products of today's American society are not the men of yesterday.
Ive been around long enough to have lived some of yesteryear. And now is different.
I think thats seriously flattering Crawford and Spence on multiple levels lol.
Only they are not comparing fighters they are referencing the occasion, you've got to look at all the angles here its a huge fight in this day, all that's on the line, both undefeated and their style kinda guarantees a very good fight, hype comes in different ways if people wasn't being controversial in claims nobody would be reading anything, nobody would be getting excited over anything because its never good enough, it seems hard for people to see things in its own light, its always somebody got to be better so lets deflate it, as Tarver just said we in the hate era.
This. ^^^ I was going to write something to this effect, but you already said it. Styles aside, this is the bottom line.
I could have worded it a bit better, glad you understood what I meant.
That or Mike McCallum vs Donald Cherry as well...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3sx22tZ98M
Boxing need GREAT FIGHTS, Classic Fights and Rivalries that is what got Casuals Attention. Casuals have no horse in the Race, they tune in or buy a fight...TO SEE A FIGHT they don't care nothing about liking Spence or Bud more like some hardcores, most of the Casuals barely even know these guys be honest.
I swear almost every time I've built up a fight to a Casual it seems to almost never deliver but then they fights you don't spread the word about, those end up being the great fights. Strange how that works!
Good Luck to Both, I do Like both so I dont' care who wins, just give me a CLASSIC!
Bruh.........
Neither Bud nor Spence (mostly Bud) has earned the right to be compared to hyped AA Ron Pryor.
Not enough time for the winner (mostly Bud) to catch up.
I don't think it does hearn and srl had a way different mindset they were killers. Boxers now are so pampered fighting as little as possible while making a lot of money. it spits in the faces of former greats like the aforementioned hearn and srl. You don't get many old school throwback fighters anymore other than usyk perhaps beterbiev and bivol too.
The times were different, you wasn't there its a totally different landscape across the world in all sports, those old-time fighters would fit in today like a glove and do exactly what everybody else is doing with managers, promoters networks, the list of modern sport roadblocks is a mile long around the big fights, it was no different back then the top guys wanted the big dollar it wasn't available in the amounts anything like it is today.
And anyway to the point both TC and Crawford have killer mindsets, don't get caught up in all the romance and hype with time, most writers were not there, time has a way of embellishing itself.
I don't think it does hearn and srl had a way different mindset they were killers. Boxers now are so pampered fighting as little as possible while making a lot of money. it spits in the faces of former greats like the aforementioned hearn and srl. You don't get many old school throwback fighters anymore other than usyk perhaps beterbiev and bivol too.
This. ^^^ I was going to write something to this effect, but you already said it. Styles aside, this is the bottom line.
I can see a similar pattern of fight, Spence in the role of Hearns and Crawford in the role of SRL.
Spence builds up an early lead behind his jab and control of distance, wouldn't be surprised if he wobbles Crawford and catches him reaching, in the second half I can see Crawford turning full attack mode and getting to Spence.
If it goes the distance I see Spence potentially hanging on for a close decision or Crawford by late stoppage.
what do people think?
Nope, dumb prediction, not happening like Hagler/ Hearns. Bud is far too carful to go off being wreckless.
I was talking more the pattern of the fight but I know where you are coming from. Boxing is currently at its lowest point during the time I've been posting here, and it stems from fights not getting made.
Yeah that's my bad I didn't read the post before adding my two pence worth haha
Maybe Hearns-SRL 2....those guys fought young the first time, below 24 years old I think
Leonard was 25 and Hearns was 22. Back when young guys at the top actually fought after cleaning out the division.
Who southpaw right hook you see coming out on top
both guys are susceptible to looping right hands
I think Crawford has to win this fight from a conventional stance. Spence, for some reason, can't get away from a straight right hand. From the southpaw stance, someone that he uses a LOT, Bud gets tagged a bit.
The fight is mostly similar to Miguel Cotto vs Floyd Mayweather Junior 'Stylistically, and in terms of the fights significance for this era'.
Miguel Cotto vs Floyd Mayweather Junior was a more significant fight than Manny Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather Junior.
Cotto vs Mayweather Junior was the real Super fight of that era.
By the time Pacquiao vs Mayweather Junior came around? Mayweather Junior was miles outside his peak, and really should of been beaten by Pacquiao. Also Pacquiao himself had been banged out and beaten multiple times coming into that fight 'But I believe out of the two fighters, Pacquiao's game had not decreased as much as Mayweather Junior's'.
Crawford & Spence Junior are still undefeated and are at very similar stages of their careers. They have beaten all other fighters within their era 'They have ether both beaten these fighters or those fighters have retired. The only fighter from their era who they have not faced and beaten is Keith Thurman'.
So I think the fight in terms of historical significance is at welter-weight similar to Cotto vs Mayweather Junior 'But it is a more significant fight than even that match up'.
Universally Crawford vs Spence Junior is the most significant all america title fight since Evander Holyfield vs Mike Tyson I.
Note: Pacquiao should of beaten Mayweather Junior when they finally fought or at-least pushed him a lot closer 'But he did not'. Mayweather Junior beat Pacquiao while not even getting out of 2nd gear 'Tactically he beat Pacquiao and in some ways masked his true form. If Pacquiao for me, would of just thrown caution to the wind and aimed to just land punches anywhere on Mayweather? The fight may have altered.
Great fighters can win fights sometimes they are not suppose to win 'So to his credit Floyd Mayweather Junior found a way, to make his fight vs Pacquiao easier really then it should of been' etc.
Who southpaw right hook you see coming out on top
both guys are susceptible to looping right hands
Good question, I think Crawfords punches in general are a little wider and have more loop on them, but occassionally he mixes in something shorter and more direct, with more venom on it. I'm also not sure if he will start southpaw or righty.
Spence throws everything more compact, to my eye anyway, including that right hook.
I think Spence might land his better early, it seems Crawford takes a few rounds to adjust to punches coming his way, but as the fight goes on and Spence becomes more fatigued I think Crawford will start landing his over Spence's jab, that is what I visualise when I picture them in the ring
What do you think?
if Crawford gets the stoppage, it has to be within the first 6 rounds. Anything after, Spence is still there throwing 50 punches a round late. I don't know who will win, but I'm leaning towards Crawford. It's 50/50. For a fighter to win, the must dictate the style they want to use. If it's a boxing match from the outside, Bud wins easily. If it's an inside fight, Bud gets ktfo.
I disagree with the outside thing, I actually think Spence is the more consistent boxer from the outside, he drops less rounds and can really box well behind his jab when he needs too.
Crawford is a great counterpuncher and boxer, both guys are really well rounded so the fight will come down to small nuances.
Sometimes too much success early can put you into a bad spot later in the fight inadvertently. When SRL fought Hearns, I don't think it was his strategy to lose the early boxing rounds, up to that point in his career SRL had outboxed everybody, but in the early rounds of that fight for the first time in his career he was getting comprehensively outboxed from the outside, so he was forced to change and show something different, in the mid rounds he started to push the pace and put Hearns under pressure, Hearns started becoming disorganised and in the later rounds, slowly but surely SRL started becoming the puncher, and eventually stopped him.
I think Crawford will drop the early rounds and similarly he will have to go looking for Spence, at that point the fight will become very interesting, and I think it will reveal a lot about both guys. Spence is the sharper inside fighter but I think it's dangerous for him to be there as Crawford hits you with snappy shots from strange angles and I think he's generally better at landing shots which his opponents are not prepared for, which is why he gets knockouts.
Spence might have more natural power but his shots are more conventional and predictable. I do think at some points in the fight they will start exchanging punches on the inside and both guys are capable of hurting eacher so it will be super interesting.
I can see it play out something like this. I think Crawford may get the stoppage late.
I think a lot of people feel the same way, I really feel the fight will live up to the hype though, there will be layers to it and ebbs and flows.
Nah SRL played it super carefully at first because Hearns could 1PKO
Errol doesn’t have Hearns punching power
Spence can crack, he's not a one punch guy but I think he hits hard enough to earn respect, Crawford will not be able to just run up on him