Unpopular opinion: Speaking literally, Oleksandr Usyk and Tank Davis are the best fighters pound for pound

Usyk is the real deal i just hate how inactive he is, i guess tank is the face of boxing

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Usyk only beat aj because aj gassed Fury is heavily favoured by the bookies to beat usyk. Usyk is campaigning at heavyweight. I wouldnt have usyk high up in p4p for that reason. It’s trendy to rate usyk p4p and highly. He's charasmatic, ukranian, has good skillset. Why did AJ gas in both fights then? Had nothing to do with Usyk boxing his ears off?

You see, that’s a fair opinion. Problem is, and this goes for me too since I said Tank beats everyone on the P4P list by KO or decision, including Inoue. But when I start claiming Tank beats these guys 100/100 times, issue with that is Tank would be Inoue’s best opponent, and Inoue would be Tank’s best opponent to date. So how do you know Inoue beats tank 100/100 times? Tank struggled with Cruz? Okay, Inoue struggled with an old Donaire who already got schooled by Rigondeax, KO’ed badly by Walters, and dropped decisions to two guys a prime Donaire would beat Frampton and Magdaleno. I couldn’t really tell you who on Tank’s resume would make me say he beats Inoue 100/100 times. But you seem very sure. Who is it? Payano? Moloney? Butler? You realize Tank is better than any opponent on Inoue’s resume? And yes, Inoue is better than any opponent on Tank’s resume. But that’s my point. It sounds like you think Tank is so trash, that he doesn’t stand a chance vs Inoue. Inoue didnt struggle with Donaire though. He lost 3 rounds out of 12, knocked him down, and should have gotten the stoppage. Sure he had a broken orbital, but if anything that shows it’s even a better performance to pull that off with one eye prime Donaire still loses to Walkers because that fight was at 126 and prime donaire fights at 115

Usyk only beat aj because aj gassed Fury is heavily favoured by the bookies to beat usyk. Usyk is campaigning at heavyweight. I wouldnt have usyk high up in p4p for that reason. Its trendy to rate usyk p4p and highly. He's charasmatic, ukranian, has good skillset.

Which dude? If it’s one dude, then that’s not really a lot of people. That sounds like an unpopular, minority opinion. He’s ranked pretty low in general. He just got his just due in his last fight, entered #10. Um, the person who started the thread. The reason we're all here {"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","title":"gXEoYsE.gif","data-attachmentid":31879609}

If sizes were the same, Inoue beats Davis 100 times out of 100. You see, that’s a fair opinion. Problem is, and this goes for me too since I said Tank beats everyone on the P4P list by KO or decision, including Inoue. But when I start claiming Tank beats these guys 100/100 times, issue with that is Tank would be Inoue’s best opponent, and Inoue would be Tank’s best opponent to date. So how do you know Inoue beats tank 100/100 times? Tank struggled with Cruz? Okay, Inoue struggled with an old Donaire who already got schooled by Rigondeax, KO’ed badly by Walters, and dropped decisions to two guys a prime Donaire would beat Frampton and Magdaleno. I couldn’t really tell you who on Tank’s resume would make me say he beats Inoue 100/100 times. But you seem very sure. Who is it? Payano? Moloney? Butler? You realize Tank is better than any opponent on Inoue’s resume? And yes, Inoue is better than any opponent on Tank’s resume. But that’s my point. It sounds like you think Tank is so trash, that he doesn’t stand a chance vs Inoue.

If sizes were the same, Inoue beats Davis 100 times out of 100. Not 100 out of 100 but it would be ATG boxing classics they would put on. Plus, they aren't too far off in size. They are both 5'5" while Gervonta lives on an American diet and Naoya lives on a Japanese diet. if Naoya took a year to put on lean mass he would be quite similar. He supposedly walks around 138. So if he put on 10lbs of lean muscle mass, which isn't impossible after a year of strength training. he'd be walking around 148 and cutting to 135. Tank it probably 150-ish, +/- 3? But Tank gets actually fat between fights or used to. I think he stays fit year round since the Barrios fight now. So he's probably walking around a lean 140-145. They aren't too far off realistically even though it seems like it from their weight classes being 4 divisions apart.

Naoya Inoue should not be forgotten. Tank and Inoue are like 1a and 1b in my opinion. Usyk isn’t their level. If sizes were the same, Inoue beats Davis 100 times out of 100.

This dude has Tank ranked as the best fighter in the world, I'd say that's ranked pretty high. Which dude? If it’s one dude, then that’s not really a lot of people. That sounds like an unpopular, minority opinion. He’s ranked pretty low in general. He just got his just due in his last fight, entered #10.

Naoya Inoue should not be forgotten. Tank and Inoue are like 1a and 1b in my opinion. Usyk isn’t their level.

Tank isn’t ranked high. This dude has Tank ranked as the best fighter in the world, I'd say that's ranked pretty high.

Before you kill me, let me explain… First of all, I know Usyk is correctly ranked as #1, which I agree with. I think that Tank Davis is the best fighter in terms of pound for pound in a literal sense, at least #2. Like same day weigh in, both fighters are the same height and same weight. So that’s Tank Davis fighting a guy weighing 140-147lbs on fight night, 5’6” in height, 68” reach. Tank Davis would be the best with those terms. If he’s strictly fighting other opponents his exact size. Which I think P4P actually means. It doesn’t mean, the best fighter on the planet even if they’re fighting a 20lb heavier fighter. I think Tank Davis shares that spot with Usyk. 1A and 1B. Usyk vs Tank, same weight, same height, would be the best fight right now. I think if Tank were Crawford’s size, he’d KO him. He’d KO or UD, either closely 7-5 or widely 9-3, any other fighter not named Usyk. He’d absolutely KO Haney. Usyk #1. Yes. Tank. No.

Before you kill me, let me explain… First of all, I know Usyk is correctly ranked as #1, which I agree with. I think that Tank Davis is the best fighter in terms of pound for pound in a literal sense, at least #2. Like same day weigh in, both fighters are the same height and same weight. So that’s Tank Davis fighting a guy weighing 140-147lbs on fight night, 5’6” in height, 68” reach. Tank Davis would be the best with those terms. If he’s strictly fighting other opponents his exact size. Which I think P4P actually means. It doesn’t mean, the best fighter on the planet even if they’re fighting a 20lb heavier fighter. I think Tank Davis shares that spot with Usyk. 1A and 1B. Usyk vs Tank, same weight, same height, would be the best fight right now. I think if Tank were Crawford’s size, he’d KO him. He’d KO or UD, either closely 7-5 or widely 9-3, any other fighter not named Usyk. He’d absolutely KO Haney. People don't see p4p like that for some reason. I don't know if it's something that has changed, but I've always preferred to see it this way. People put way too much emphasis on resumes right now. So much that sometimes by the time the fighter is being recognized as a p4p top guy, they start declining rapidly if they're not already a bit past it.

Corrales was his best win, and Corrales was drained at 130 and recovering from Bronchitis. Genaro retired right after that fight. After the Castillo fights Floyd found the winning formula to compete against big names on their way up or down or just not at their best. Bronchitis, sure. Drained I'm not buying though. Chico had just come off wins over Juuko, Gaiiner and Manfredy all at 130 all three months apart from each other, then fought Floyd at 130 another 3.5 months after that. He also fought Cassamayer at 130 twice a few years AFTER that.

Floyd already had a good resume by the time he hit 140 though. Tank has nowhere near close to a Genero or a Chico Corrales to boast about. Corrales was his best win, and Corrales was drained at 130 and recovering from Bronchitis. Genaro retired right after that fight. After the Castillo fights Floyd found the winning formula to compete against big names on their way up or down or just not at their best.

Tank is still untested as far as I'm concerned. He is using the Mayweather blue-print of fighting opponents on their way up or down, or hyping up opponents as better than they truly are. When he gets in with a prime Shakur, Haney, or even Loma. He likely won't fight Frank Martin who belongs to PBC, doubt he'll ever meet up with Keyshawn Davis somewhere down the line either. If he dips his toes into 140 again who does he fight there? Floyd already had a good resume by the time he hit 140 though. Tank has nowhere near close to a Genero or a Chico Corrales to boast about.

Usyk is constantly giving up size, weight and home field advantage. In Usyk's four HW fights he's been outweighed by 27, 38, 19 and 24 pounds. Tank's last few fights have had hydration clauses. They are not the same.

Tank is still untested as far as I'm concerned. He is using the Mayweather blue-print of fighting opponents on their way up or down, or hyping up opponents as better than they truly are. When he gets in with a prime Shakur, Haney, or even Loma. He likely won't fight Frank Martin who belongs to PBC, doubt he'll ever meet up with Keyshawn Davis somewhere down the line either. If he dips his toes into 140 again who does he fight there?

Crawford is very overrated. If Tank were his size, Crawford gets KO’ed. The Crawford who fought at 135 would almost certainly defeat tank. if Tank would have fought him, which he wouldn't have.