Obviously its different when you watch live but Loma is so fast and sneaky with his shots a lot is missed when watching live. When you freeze frame reviewing film you see all his work. It sucks how much of Lomas work goes unnoticed live. Pac had the same problem when watching live and then reviewing film.
Also Haneys body work is greatly exaggerated by people who claim he won because of that. Look how many is blocked or is below. Haney also has that flashy American style similar to Floyd that a lot of young fighter copy that dazzle the judges when firing shots and has the illusion of being athletic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj6U6caJIJw&t=63s
I wonder why we have some people on this board (around 20%) who know Haney lost but due to some insecurities in life, still keep saying he won. They don't care they look like imbeciles, like crooked men, they just uphold a color.
They don't love boxing, they see an escape in it and then follow false narratives.
Manny pressed much harder than Loma and was totally vicious, he does not have the same problem as overrated Loma.
This was my first thought too. Manny went for it, I'm not sure whether it's Loma's head or age, but he just doesn't seem to be hungry enough in the two biggest fights he had.
That and MFers getting excited over punches that are missed and or blocked.
Every fight (every rd even) has those instances.
Ineffective aggression is more valuable than elusiveness and ring generalship :lol1:
Nothing coded about it, there some people here who hate on people because of their skin color and I have seen it go both ways so I'm not saying it's just people hating on white skin fighters. He doesn't get respect from the black side of that coin who call him a bum and overrated. The guy has like 20 pro fights and has fought nothing but solid competition the whole way. Most people fight 25 tomato cans before they even fight a guy on salidos level
Same people sucking Haney dick are calling Loma a bum yet Haney who's 10 years younger, bigger and supposedly great barely scraped by IMO and most people thought he lost.
You know exactly who the guys are on the other side of the coin so let's not play dumb here. I know you're not stupid, we have had good boxing conversations in the past and you know your stuff.
I never called Loma an ATG, people like Max Kellerman sucked his dick when he turned pro that's for sure though. I think the guy is highly talented, fighting in a weight class he doesn't belong in and gets no respect from a certain segment of folks here.
Ok at least you acknowledge it is both ways.
He started very late after an extremely long amateur career. That is why he doesnt have a developmental resume.
He also had 6 quasi pro fights that don’t appear on his pro resume from the AIBA. Make those regular pro fights as they shouldve been and now his resume has the names on it like pros that started younger.
Yes there are guys that unfairly call him a bum. That had happened to better fighters for the same reason. Pettiness comes out in arguments.
I have a similar opinion as you. Yet im accused hating him because he is white. Very good but not great.
I dont think he can make 130 at his age. I think he makes too many excuses after he loses.
That he doesnt get respect from a certain segment is something better boxers have had to deal with.
He gets too much respect from a certain segment as well. That part doesn’t get discussed nearly as much as the above.
When he loses the above group immediately makes the loss racial. That needs to be condemned the same way you condemn those you feel dont like him for racial reasons.
Hmm. Youre using coded language here. Is it possible that the issue is the cast of characters that only likes fighters for their skin color are the ones that have over rated Loma?
When you say he doesn’t get respect, what exactly do you mean? Are you saying he is an ATG that isnt being called one? Are you saying hes the top p4p boxer in the game and not being given that credit?
Please be specific.
Nothing coded about it, there some people here who hate on people because of their skin color and I have seen it go both ways so I'm not saying it's just people hating on white skin fighters. He doesn't get respect from the black side of that coin who call him a bum and overrated. The guy has like 20 pro fights and has fought nothing but solid competition the whole way. Most people fight 25 tomato cans before they even fight a guy on salidos level
Same people sucking Haney dick are calling Loma a bum yet Haney who's 10 years younger, bigger and supposedly great barely scraped by IMO and most people thought he lost.
You know exactly who the guys are on the other side of the coin so let's not play dumb here. I know you're not stupid, we have had good boxing conversations in the past and you know your stuff.
I never called Loma an ATG, people like Max Kellerman sucked his dick when he turned pro that's for sure though. I think the guy is highly talented, fighting in a weight class he doesn't belong in and gets no respect from a certain segment of folks here.
Loma is a great boxer, he doesn't get respect from the same cast of characters here who only like or dislike fighters because of their skin color but I would take Pac and Mayweather to beat him at 130-135. Pac was too fast and powerful and Floyd was too slick and had better power at the lower weights and before his hands got brittle.
Hmm. Youre using coded language here. Is it possible that the issue is the cast of characters that only likes fighters for their skin color are the ones that have over rated Loma?
When you say he doesn’t get respect, what exactly do you mean? Are you saying he is an ATG that isnt being called one? Are you saying hes the top p4p boxer in the game and not being given that credit?
Please be specific.
Loma is a great boxer, he doesn't get respect from the same cast of characters here who only like or dislike fighters because of their skin color but I would take Pac and Mayweather to beat him at 130-135. Pac was too fast and powerful and Floyd was too slick and had better power at the lower weights and before his hands got brittle.
Loma lost and got outboxed. If haney's body work is overrated, loma wouldn't be bruised over there. He got hit a lot on the body. Haney cut him off from establishing angles. Accept it and move on.
Yes, loma and pac are similar. They are both whiners that cater to casual talking points "oh, he ran", "oh, I was robbed". Zip it you lames.
Big Dung is an insecure clown. Heâs been going after me nonstop. He knows Haney lost but wants me for some reason to say otherwise. Heâs so worried about what I think m, which is ****ing weird as hell.
Big Dung is desperately trying to convince people that their own eyes lied to them. It really is funny. Every time I see one of his posts, I have a little chuckle.
Of course I have been mocking you and the other sore loser LLLoma stans. Same way I mock the Manny nut gobblers.
I don’t want you to say anything. Nor do I care what you think.
I got exactly what I predicted Haney by UD.
Just like I told you- same as I told the Manny losers like him- this is why LLLoma and Manny both waited to fight- they knew deep down they would lose.
No more like the other way around.
Haney talked that big talk against this guy and at the end of the day he needed the judges help.
Looks like he will need plenty of ref and judge payoff money to keep those belts
Big Dung is an insecure clown. He’s been going after me nonstop. He knows Haney lost but wants me for some reason to say otherwise. He’s so worried about what I think m, which is fucking weird as hell.
Big Dung is desperately trying to convince people that their own eyes lied to them. It really is funny. Every time I see one of his posts, I have a little chuckle.
The other thing Loma and Pac have in common is they both waited to fight the opponents mentioned
No more like the other way around.
Haney talked that big talk against this guy and at the end of the day he needed the judges help.
Looks like he will need plenty of ref and judge payoff money to keep those belts
It’s funny how people are calling Loma
overrated when he clearly, and I mean CLEARLY whooped Haney. Beyond a doubt.
Manny hits harder but Loma Is more skilled, higher ring IQ. Not saying Manny doesn’t have high ring IQ but Loma’s is higher.
Anyway, what they have in common is getting robbed in Vegas in favor of the America fighter. And it doesn’t matter how much they win by because they will always lose. This is what happened to Manny with Bradley.
want to know how the 10th round was given to Haney? Front loading. The card was filled out already, and Moretti panicked when he saw Devin getting his as kicked that round. He had to make sure that the card was at 7 rounds for Devin. He saw how the fight was going.
So there’s nothing Manny or Loma could have done. You fight the American boxer in America, then you’ve already lost before the bell even rings.
Chale tamale, Lightweight Pac wouldve beaten Haney clearly if not stopped him. Pac wasnt a war of attrition type of fighter, he was a beat your ass fighter.
The other thing Loma and Pac have in common is they both waited to fight the opponents mentioned and both have some fans that are knob gobbling idiots.
Your boy Floyd doesn't have a great fighter under 35 on his resume, and you will be making the same excuses for this hug and clinch master. Couldn't even put a good one two together on a past prime fighter.
Devin Haney, taking on all (shopworn) comers
Don’t see it really.
Lomachenko was landing the cleaner blows, the problem is he didn’t do enough to stop many of the rounds being close.
That’s what cost him the fight.
Seemed like those guys were scared of them in their prime. Too afraid that when hit, they were fast enough to hit them back.
Half the world wasn't convinced that Haney even beat a past prime fighter he said he was gonna smoke.
- -Heinie blowin' smoke up his own heinie...priceless...