what do you mean 'overrated' UFC is literally a mix of all the fighting styles in the world and the most effective ones come out on top, what exactly would a UFC fighter get exposed against in a fight?
Lol yeah, I dont know how they can be "overrated" while simultaneously having a skillset that allows them to consistently and easily beat any other combat sports athletes. If anything it would mean the champs and top guys of other combat sports are overrated because they demonstrably arent the best fighters even though their sport is based around fighting.
I think the other guy might have been referring specifically to their striking though. Which I dont understand either because I dont think anyone has been under the illusion that MMA fighters can box like high level boxers, or that they are as good on average at overall striking as kickboxers and Muay Thai guys. That said anyone can get KTFO in MMA when you throw in the 4oz gloves, no counts, all the different things you have to defend against, the wrestling threat etc.
The whole jack of all trades argument is dumb too, they are masters of MMA.
I think we all know he whoops any UFC guy in a boxing ring and loses in a cage unless he somehow lands on them before they get chance to kick or go for a takedown, but realistically that would need to be in the opening moments of the fight, because that would be their tactic.
Nobody from UFC is going to just stand and trade only hands with him for even 20 seconds in a cage, they would target the legs and use kicks from the opening bell.
That should be obvious though. How could you expect a "jack of all trades" to defeat a "master of one" in their own craft?
As you say, there's a reason that they're called "Jack of all trades" not "King". Specialists will always have an advantage in their discipline. That's honestly why I watch boxing. No better way to learn about the nuances of hands than watching boxers IMO. Or kicks from Muay Thai fighters, or ground from a Sambo or Jiu jitsu specialist.
UFC is overrated. They like to brag on their striking, but they've only got a few really elite guys, like Pereira, Adesanya, and Thompson. Saw a UFC trailer talking about insane kicks with some ok calf kicks from Gaethje, and then later that same night, Tawanchai broke a guy's femur with ONE thigh kick. Most of the UFC guys get absolutely embarrassed by boxers when they can't threaten kicks and takedowns, and they've got bad habits of keeping hands lower because they're used to having to defend the aforementioned kicks and takedowns.
That should be obvious though. How could you expect a "jack of all trades" to defeat a "master of one" in their own craft? UFC fighters get embarrassed all the time against BJJ practitioners, even though BJJ guys are usually forbidden of using some techniques against them to "keep it competitive". In Wrestling? Just watch what happened to Ben Askren against Jordan Burroughs. No contest, not even close.
But if you loosen the rules of every discipline and start to give the fighters more tools to work with, then the MMA fighters would come on top more often than not. Because they are better prepared in every area of fighting unlike their opponents who are masters of only one area and a zero on all the others. Which is the big disadvantage that Fury would have against them if he doesn't fight them under boxing rules.
UFC is overrated. They like to brag on their striking, but they've only got a few really elite guys, like Pereira, Adesanya, and Thompson. Saw a UFC trailer talking about insane kicks with some ok calf kicks from Gaethje, and then later that same night, Tawanchai broke a guy's femur with ONE thigh kick. Most of the UFC guys get absolutely embarrassed by boxers when they can't threaten kicks and takedowns, and they've got bad habits of keeping hands lower because they're used to having to defend the aforementioned kicks and takedowns.
In MMA? They all beat him easily. Wrestlers beat boxers outside a boxing ring, this has been a constant since the "no holds barred era" in the 90's. Fury was getting taken down by Darren Till with ease and that's a welterweight. Rakic, Jiri, Hill, Jan and Ankalaev would all take him down without a problem and beat him there.
In boxing, never in a million years. In fact nobody in UFC is even lasting a decision against him. UFC champions get knocked out by youtubers in boxing ffs.
I actually think Fury would do better against some UFC heavyweights than lightheavyweights. That division is filled with one dimensional overweight fighters that stand and bang. Guys like Tuivasa, Gane and Rozentruik would probably stand with Fury and try to use their kicks and punches. He may win it like Mercer beat Sylvia in that case. They are not even that good by kickboxing standards. Of course guys like Almeida, Blaydes and Jones would just take him down and pound him in seconds like Randy Couture did to James Toney but you could create a "path to the HW belt" for Fury with the right matchmaking lol