Devin already making excuses about Loma fighting in the clinch

This is the result of excessive holding becoming normal in this sport and nothing is being done about it. It's like one fighter is being aided by the third man in the ring. Haney here is expecting the ref to tolerate such tactic. His accusation is specific and it's not about using elbows, punching below the belt, etc. Meaning, it won't happen if holding is not allowed.

You’re being phony. More posters have said that about Devin. I dont see how Devin saying that to Loma directly is an excuse. Completely untrue. I haven’t responded to anyone about how he looked at the last fight. The excuses I have criticized are the ref, judges, holding, claims of being dirty. If you have seen any of my posts about who will win, I am picking Haney but think Loma is a live dog that can win and will not be an easy opponent. The winner will have earned the win. Yes, it is ok if Haney loses. He hasn’t turned into anything of the sort. He’s selling the fight. He also was forced to take a terrible deal to even get the shot. He won both. He felt Loma avoided him before the emeritus designation. He is the champ. He won fairly. He’s been avoided by every other top LW. He has earned the right to feel highly about himself. Sounds like you will be making excuses for him in the fights (or ducks/cherrypicks) to come

Fair play man well we will see Saturday if he's the real deal or not if he beats Loma he will get credit from me and if his arrogance is justified or not let's just hope it's a good fight. 4am for me so hope it's worth it lol. Cool. That is all I’m asking. Whoever wins give credit. If there is garbage, ok we can discuss. I am just pushing back against some of the worst fans that have already decided a Loma loss is due to cheating.

Can’t disagree the response would be different had someone else made similar comments. I am not so sure that it is because he is boring. Again, his feeling he is the man imo is fair given the journey. Fair play man well we will see Saturday if he's the real deal or not if he beats Loma he will get credit from me and if his arrogance is justified or not let's just hope it's a good fight. 4am for me so hope it's worth it lol.

I don't think it's a coincidence otherwise every black fighter would get hate Shakur doesn't get any hate at all lol Devin should thank his lucky stars he is black because if a white fighter said what he said about black folk it wouldn't have been glossed over so easily with 10k views, 21 years old or not he would be branded a racist until he retired people even dig up tweets white people say when they are underage for ammunition now listen i don't really want to go into this on a boxing forum but the victim mentality of today is hypocritical and infuriating. People hated teofimo for acting like he was the ultimate warrior because he beat Loma then people hated Kambosos for the same reason so people are obv gonna hate on Haney for feeling he's the man for beating Kambosos and listen Haney gets a lot of hate because he's a boring fighter doesn't matter what colour they are they are gonna get hate for that. Can’t disagree the response would be different had someone else made similar comments. I am not so sure that it is because he is boring. Again, his feeling he is the man imo is fair given the journey.

It is a weird coincidence is it not? You havenât. Which I appreciate. The tone of the discussion about this fight is getting worse. No its not the same. You just pointed out how Haney has been called huggies for so long. Also email champ. All he did was win the mando and show a willingness to fight anyone. Kambosos not relevant. Teo has been criticized because of his actions and because he arguably lost his last 2 fights. ( The Sandor fight isnt even arguably he lost clearly). Haney seems now to just be trying to elevate himself. I feel same way about that as I do with Rolly- you sometimes have to create buzz when none is there. I don't think it's a coincidence otherwise every black fighter would get hate Shakur doesn't get any hate at all lol Devin should thank his lucky stars he is black because if a white fighter said what he said about black folk it wouldn't have been glossed over so easily with 10k views, 21 years old or not he would be branded a racist until he retired people even dig up tweets white people say when they are underage for ammunition now listen i don't really want to go into this on a boxing forum but the victim mentality of today is hypocritical and infuriating. People hated teofimo for acting like he was the ultimate warrior because he beat Loma then people hated Kambosos for the same reason so people are obv gonna hate on Haney for feeling he's the man for beating Kambosos and listen Haney gets a lot of hate because he's a boring fighter doesn't matter what colour they are they are gonna get hate for that.

Guessing that last statement has to do with because Haney is black? if so that's pretty ridiculous considering Teofimo then Kambosos both got the exact same hate for acting the same arrogant way. It is a weird coincidence is it not? You haven’t. Which I appreciate. The tone of the discussion about this fight is getting worse. No its not the same. You just pointed out how Haney has been called huggies for so long. Also email champ. All he did was win the mando and show a willingness to fight anyone. Kambosos not relevant. Teo has been criticized because of his actions and because he arguably lost his last 2 fights. ( The Sandor fight isnt even arguably he lost clearly). Haney seems now to just be trying to elevate himself. I feel same way about that as I do with Rolly- you sometimes have to create buzz when none is there.

Ok. I’d agree with that if the context was different. Haney has been ridiculed, avoided, crapped on while doing things the way posters claim they want fighters to behave. He got the belts, then asked to fight Loma, the top challenger, as early as possible. He is now trying his best to elevate himself. Don’t see anything wrong with that. Ok. I get if you do. The hate Haney gets is very strange. At some point that will be discussed in depth. I do notice that many of his most ardent haters are the same guys that *hated Floyd because he hit women*. Guessing that last statement has to do with because Haney is black? if so that's pretty ridiculous considering Teofimo then Kambosos both got the exact same hate for acting the same arrogant way.

I'm saying if it was said before this fight was ever made and people have been saying it for a long time then it's not a preemptive excuse for Loma it's just how people feel about Haney as a fighter same way Klitschko got it through his career, Haney does jab and clinch a lot that's just fact not an excuse. I don't think beating Kambosos a relatively decent fighter makes him entitled to believe he is p4p and to refer to himself in 3rd person like he's Mayweather or something idk it just rubs me the wrong way. I don't hold that comment against him i clearly said i was willing to let that slide but not like i forgot he said it lol he said it and now he's acting like an arrogant dick so i see little reason to like him now if it's all to sell the fight then it's working because people are hating on Haney hard atm. Ok. I’d agree with that if the context was different. Haney has been ridiculed, avoided, crapped on while doing things the way posters claim they want fighters to behave. He got the belts, then asked to fight Loma, the top challenger, as early as possible. He is now trying his best to elevate himself. Don’t see anything wrong with that. Ok. I get if you do. The hate Haney gets is very strange. At some point that will be discussed in depth. I do notice that many of his most ardent haters are the same guys that *hated Floyd because he hit women*.

Its an premature excuse for Loma losing. That is the what all the garbage about who will referee, etc. is about. Complete BS. IMO, the context of the Kambosos fight justifies his feeling about himself. He had to take a terrible deal, agreeing to be copromoted by TR and a rematch in the road. He did. He was avoided by every other top LW until Kambosos was forces to fight him. That comment was 3 years ago when he was 21. He wore it and apologized. He hasn’t said anything like that since. If you hold it against him, ok. He is selling the fight and also acting like a man that has overcome a lot of unfair obstacles to win the unified, undisputed title. Teo has done and said so much more to equate them at this stage is completely unfair. I'm saying if it was said before this fight was ever made and people have been saying it for a long time then it's not a preemptive excuse for Loma it's just how people feel about Haney as a fighter same way Klitschko got it through his career, Haney does jab and clinch a lot that's just fact not an excuse. I don't think beating Kambosos a relatively decent fighter makes him entitled to believe he is p4p and to refer to himself in 3rd person like he's Mayweather or something idk it just rubs me the wrong way. I don't hold that comment against him i clearly said i was willing to let that slide but not like i forgot he said it lol he said it and now he's acting like an arrogant dick so i see little reason to like him now if it's all to sell the fight then it's working because people are hating on Haney hard atm.

People have called Haney huggies before this fight was ever made so how can it be an excuse for Loma? Or you trying to claim they just use it as an excuse for Haney winning in general? Nah he’s become arrogant talking about himself in the 3rd person that he’s untouchable p4p 1 ect lets get it right he only beat Kambosos somebody nobody even heard of before fighting Teo he needs to get his head on straight, as i say i used to like him other than his racist rhetoric “i will never lose to a white boy” i was willing to let that slide but the way he’s acting lately? Dude is a dickhead on the same level as Teofimo. Its an premature excuse for Loma losing. That is the what all the garbage about who will referee, etc. is about. Complete BS. IMO, the context of the Kambosos fight justifies his feeling about himself. He had to take a terrible deal, agreeing to be copromoted by TR and a rematch in the road. He did. He was avoided by every other top LW until Kambosos was forces to fight him. That comment was 3 years ago when he was 21. He wore it and apologized. He hasn’t said anything like that since. If you hold it against him, ok. He is selling the fight and also acting like a man that has overcome a lot of unfair obstacles to win the unified, undisputed title. Teo has done and said so much more to equate them at this stage is completely unfair.

You’re being phony. More posters have said that about Devin. I dont see how Devin saying that to Loma directly is an excuse. Completely untrue. I haven’t responded to anyone about how he looked at the last fight. The excuses I have criticized are the ref, judges, holding, claims of being dirty. If you have seen any of my posts about who will win, I am picking Haney but think Loma is a live dog that can win and will not be an easy opponent. The winner will have earned the win. Yes, it is ok if Haney loses. He hasn’t turned into anything of the sort. He’s selling the fight. He also was forced to take a terrible deal to even get the shot. He won both. He felt Loma avoided him before the emeritus designation. He is the champ. He won fairly. He’s been avoided by every other top LW. He has earned the right to feel highly about himself. People have called Haney huggies before this fight was ever made so how can it be an excuse for Loma? Or you trying to claim they just use it as an excuse for Haney winning in general? Nah he’s become arrogant talking about himself in the 3rd person that he’s untouchable p4p 1 ect lets get it right he only beat Kambosos somebody nobody even heard of before fighting Teo he needs to get his head on straight, as i say i used to like him other than his racist rhetoric “i will never lose to a white boy” i was willing to let that slide but the way he’s acting lately? Dude is a dickhead on the same level as Teofimo.

Haney the one making the excuses calling Loma a dirty fighter and other such nonsense you jump on this every thread very insecure. “Excuses” to you seem to be valid opinions such as Loma looked bad in his last fight which isn’t an excuse it’s a fact. Its okay if Haney loses to you know he’s young he can rebuild he needs humbling anyway i used to like Haney but he’s turning into an arrogant dickhead lately. You’re being phony. More posters have said that about Devin. I dont see how Devin saying that to Loma directly is an excuse. Completely untrue. I haven’t responded to anyone about how he looked at the last fight. The excuses I have criticized are the ref, judges, holding, claims of being dirty. If you have seen any of my posts about who will win, I am picking Haney but think Loma is a live dog that can win and will not be an easy opponent. The winner will have earned the win. Yes, it is ok if Haney loses. He hasn’t turned into anything of the sort. He’s selling the fight. He also was forced to take a terrible deal to even get the shot. He won both. He felt Loma avoided him before the emeritus designation. He is the champ. He won fairly. He’s been avoided by every other top LW. He has earned the right to feel highly about himself.

More premature excuse making by a Loma fan should he lose. Come on guys, enough. Loma doesn’t have to win every time. Its ok if he loses. Haney the one making the excuses calling Loma a dirty fighter and other such nonsense you jump on this every thread very insecure. “Excuses” to you seem to be valid opinions such as Loma looked bad in his last fight which isn’t an excuse it’s a fact. Its okay if Haney loses to you know he’s young he can rebuild he needs humbling anyway i used to like Haney but he’s turning into an arrogant dickhead lately.

More premature excuse making by a Loma fan should he lose. Come on guys, enough. Loma doesn’t have to win every time. Its ok if he loses.

High-stakes chess match, there is some boxing ability in this fight, I like this type of fight as much as a tear up, it's cerebral boxing.