Why didn’t JMM get vada tested

If neither guy was tested why this argument? Both guys were roided up. Marquez knocked Pac down hard in the begging of the fight, you already saw in the fight that things were going to be different. Pac said that he wanted to KO Marquez once and for all to leave no doubts, that was his tactic and he got caught. Marquez in an interview said that Pac was coming strong and felt that he wanted to knock him out, he was feeling the punches. He noticed that Pac lowered his hand before throwing the left and he automatically countered like the trained. After that fight Pac was pro testing.

You’re a bitter, stupid, Manny nut gobbler stuck in the past that thinks 146 isn’t a catchweight. . You got 66,000+ plus posts of sucking Floyd off so who is going to take you serious in your crusade in helping a guy you hate with financial issues. Manny, Marquez those guys gave us great fights. All your boy Floyd did was make excuses as to why he couldn't make em happen. Get out the thead already

You’re a bitter, stupid, Manny nut gobbler stuck in the past that thinks 146 isn’t a catchweight. . You are a hypocrite. Speaking of catchweights didn't your boy Floyd welch this same Marquez on the scales at a 144 catchweight. What made matters worse Marquez was a lightweight

Speaking of rational boxing fans, Big Dunn lives in a world where fighters beating shopworn name fighters without a catchweight, is better than just beating the fighter in their prime Yes I am a rational boxing fan. You’re a bitter, stupid, Manny nut gobbler stuck in the past that thinks 146 isn’t a catchweight. CW’s have nothing to do with this thread. Feel free to continue pole smoking without quoting me. Have a good day.

Manny didn't KO Margarito.... beaten from pillar to post it went 12 but yea most were calling for tko stoppage.

If the truth is denigrating, so what? i didn't know that there was a statute of limitations. Sound like an opinion to me

Relax. The overwhelming majority of speculation is by disgruntled sore losers, not rational boxing fans. Speaking of rational boxing fans, Big Dunn lives in a world where fighters beating shopworn name fighters without a catchweight, is better than just beating the fighter in their prime

Let the commission do their job.

JMM did raise red flags, but Pacquiao was against advanced drug testing. At the time, I didn't think much of it, but in hindsight I admit Floyd was right in demanding more drug testing and this may have been karma catching up to Pacquiao if he ever did cheat on any of his fights.

The discussion is over because you say so, got it. win or lose JMM was going to be the object of speculation because physically, he looked markedly different than he ever had before. Add to that the nearly 40 year old had the acne of a high school athlete. Relax. The overwhelming majority of speculation is by disgruntled sore losers, not rational boxing fans. As another poster showed, Manny also had back acne. Those of you questioning JMM didn’t do same for him. Manny just got ktfo. Manny dropped his hand and got caught. Whether its here or in the lounge, just because the guy you like lost doesn’t mean winner cheated.

It’s not the truth. It’s sore loser Manny fans alternative facts. The truth is JMM didn’t test positive for PED’s before or after the fight on the test issued by the commission. What the real question about this fight is why Bob and Manny didn’t want VADA testing? If JMM was dirty, so was Manny. So the ko win was fought on even terms. Again it’s 2023. Don’t see the need to argue about it. The discussion is over because you say so, got it. win or lose JMM was going to be the object of speculation because physically, he looked markedly different than he ever had before. Add to that the nearly 40 year old had the acne of a high school athlete.

Because he was on PEDS the same with why mayweather don't want any VADA test because he was also in PEDS.

If the truth is denigrating, so what? i didn't know that there was a statute of limitations. It’s not the truth. It’s sore loser Manny fans alternative facts. The truth is JMM didn’t test positive for PED’s before or after the fight on the test issued by the commission. What the real question about this fight is why Bob and Manny didn’t want VADA testing? If JMM was dirty, so was Manny. So the ko win was fought on even terms. Again it’s 2023. Don’t see the need to argue about it.

It just backfired on Manny thinking that now it would be a surefire win now that all the conditions were on his favor, he was trying to overshadow a quite controversial win in the third bout despite that JMM was basically dragged up from lightweight. Pacquiao's advantages were from: -The judges being in his favor. -JMM's physical decline at 39 years old. (While Pacquiao was 33 years old) -Moving his opponent up a weight class above again, in which Marquez came at 143 and Pacquiao at 147. Pretty sure both did use steroids at different points of their careers, Pacquiao had developed back acne in his bout with Mayweather (not accepting the condition of Olympic style drug testing) and throughout time his head became overgrown which is a symptom from anabolic steroid use. Freddy Roach had two fighters who took them, Justin Fortune and James Toney. Manny also collaborated with Alex Ariza. {"alt":"Click image for larger version Name:\tPacquiao I.jpg Views:\t0 Size:\t48.1 KB ID:\t31839445","data-align":"none","data-attachmentid":"31839445","data-size":"custom","height":"300","title":"Pacquiao I.jpg","width":"271"}{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","height":"300","width":"225","src":"https:\/\/www.celebsasyoung.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Manny-Pacquiao-Young-Childhood-Photo.jpg"}{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","height":"300","width":"200","src":"https:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/_BEic_j5OvHM\/SwF-g_XUU0I\/AAAAAAAALBs\/bTpp5MIt3p8\/s1600\/Manny+Pacquiao-723554.jpg"}

Manny didn't KO Margarito.... Hey now stop pointing out historical facts let’s all pretend Manny who tested clean his entire career knocked out everyone because he was roided

Did you ask that question when Manny was looking like a bodybuilder knocking out much bigger guys like Margarito? Manny didn't KO Margarito....

Did you ask that question when Manny was looking like a bodybuilder knocking out much bigger guys like Margarito?

It’s 2023. Let’s stop denigrating JMM’s ko win. There was no PED testing for this fight because Bob and Manny didn’t want any. The commission did it’s job. Manny got ktfo. If the truth is denigrating, so what? i didn't know that there was a statute of limitations.

It’s 2023. Let’s stop denigrating JMM’s ko win. There was no PED testing for this fight because Bob and Manny didn’t want any. The commission did it’s job. Manny got ktfo.