if u are born in mexico u are mexican i presume
mexicans are made up of all sorts of histories
as soon as a person speaks people will recognise home grown i would say
times are changing, slowly but changing
Well you "presume" wrong. Coming to somebody else country to live off it doesn't make you a citizen.
If I moved to Mexico as a black person and had a child would my child be Mexican? No my child would not and the Mexicans in Mexico wouldn't consider my child Mexican either.
if u are born in mexico u are mexican i presume
mexicans are made up of all sorts of histories
as soon as a person speaks people will recognise home grown i would say
times are changing, slowly but changing
They both got out and promoted themselves and the fight in big platforms and with huge celebs. Unlike most overpaid boxers today who do nothing to promote themselves and think they are automatically entitled to millions.
Ryan don't have any Mexican american fanbase. Is this some kind of joke. Ryan's fan base consist of teeny boppers and Instagram followers. I would say its a combination of tank and the fight within its self that garnished so much attention. Ryan doesn't have any Mexican support like that wtf.....
Have you not seen the low numbers Tank has been doing before the Garcia fight? It most definitely wasn't him. It was just the matchup and Ryan bringing his fans along as well. Tank will go back to the low numbers after this. However, i'm suspicious of those numbers. They'll lie about anything to make Tank look bigger than he is. Everything is calculated. Plus they came out super fast. It goes against everything they've said in the past with counting numbers with PPV.
are most of them not americans?
If I moved to Mexico as a black person and had a child would my child be Mexican? No my child would not and the Mexicans in Mexico wouldn't consider my child Mexican either.
Bro......I am talking from numbers. Raw numbers. Ryan has never ever been a televised success let alone a ppv success. I am talking factually nothing emotional. I won't respond to anyone using emotions. Meet me with facts. If Ryan has such a great Mexican american fanbase why wasn't he breaking television records? U are talking about la Raza (again. Emtional) I am strictly talking about who is supporting him and raw numbers. He's a televised failure. Here's the truth. Its the casual fanbase that picked up on this fight that made it what it is. It was strictly the casuals that treated it with the bbqs, meet ups, group betting. Had almost nothing to do with ryans so called huge loyal Mexican fanbase or Instagram following. These were the causauls that made this fight
emotional cause i said Raza, in other words mexicans,mex-americans. Nothing is emotional with that response at all lmfao. I dont even like cRyan but to think he didnt bring at least half the buys and the gate is hilarious. Davis best #s not againt Garcia was what, 250-300k? Again, i never gave the kid a chance, but stop it.
There 50 million Mexicans living in the USA now. There are more Mexicans in the USA than blacks. Also Mexicans in general will support whatever Mexicans do.
certain fans buy ppv's and some dont, it may just be a test of how good a fanbase is maybe
some say boxing is dead dying etc but some fans are out there waiting for one of their guys to excite them and then they support them
other guys have no shot at ppv success no matter what they do
its good to see good fanbases supporting the guys they like
How were these little guys able to outperform the big guys in ppv especially with the big guys both being hard hitters
I think figures are not accurate. In the US did your friend who are casual boxing fans know about the fight.?
In the UK i know they didn't, a lot of people i know who watched Fury Wilder fights didn't know who Tank Garcia were or that they were fighting
A few of my homies went, said more than half the crowd was all Raza. Tf you know? Your post is hilarious.
Bro......I am talking from numbers. Raw numbers. Ryan has never ever been a televised success let alone a ppv success. I am talking factually nothing emotional. I won't respond to anyone using emotions. Meet me with facts. If Ryan has such a great Mexican american fanbase why wasn't he breaking television records? U are talking about la Raza (again. Emtional) I am strictly talking about who is supporting him and raw numbers. He's a televised failure. Here's the truth. Its the casual fanbase that picked up on this fight that made it what it is. It was strictly the casuals that treated it with the bbqs, meet ups, group betting. Had almost nothing to do with ryans so called huge loyal Mexican fanbase or Instagram following. These were the causauls that made this fight
Doesn't matter. Ryan doesn't have any sanificant Mexican nore Mexican american fanbase.....thats the most silliest comment.
A few of my homies went, said more than half the crowd was all Raza. Tf you know? Your post is hilarious.
Its quite easy to see why this fight sold so much. Both of these have huge social media followings and both have done a great job on marketing themselves to their target demographics.
Ryan don't have any Mexican american fanbase. Is this some kind of joke. Ryan's fan base consist of teeny boppers and Instagram followers. I would say its a combination of tank and the fight within its self that garnished so much attention. Ryan doesn't have any Mexican support like that wtf.....
Ryan has a huge Mexican American fanbase. You are conflating Mexican American and Mexican (from Mexico) boxing fans......Mexican American and Mexican fans don't always have the same view points. Ryan isn't big amongst Mexicans but to say he doesn't have a Mexican American fansbase is flat out wrong.
Ryan was getting a lot of promotion from some of the biggest Mexican American platforms on instagram like Foo Community and Chicanos Worldwide. Then add into that the teeny boppers you mentioned.
Tank and Ryan were both getting knockouts and we’re in exciting fights. The wilder trilogy made people forget how before that people was calling fury boring and inactive.
that 3rd fury vs wilder fight was a classic they made fury become bigger.
It's the casual and crossover appeal that led to the Tank Ryan PPV buys. Tank fights are actually boring as fuck. He throws so few punches per round, less, than heavyweights actually, that most of the rounds are snoozefests. Very much like Wilder in that regard.
10 million instagram followers but Ryan garcia has yet to even break 1 million viewership for normal televised tv let alone ppv. Ryan garcias tv numbers are low and have always been low which is why his management outside of grouping him with tank never dared lead him on ppv. Ryan garcia is a star on instagram but not on television. Tank left normal television in favor for ppv when he consistently kept breaking viewership numbers on normal televised tv which is something that Ryan has yet to do with all of his10 million instagram followers. Not even 400k of those 10 million tuned into ryans live fights lol its been that way his entire career which means u don't follow him, his stats, or his data break downs. Again tank was breaking normal televised viewership records which is why they moved him to ppv. Tank has the ppv crowd, the experince and the overall televised viewership crowd (Meaning more people that know tank spends on his fights while ryans followers admire short clips of him on instagram but that doesn't necessarily translate into someone viewing your live fight or buying your ppv) u are deluded bro. Just go by the raw numbers between these 2 fighters and see realty.....
Some of you have the wrong idea on starpower. You seem to think you can sell a product the people know is bullsht. You still need the matchup. Davis has a little fanbase. Canelo is not selling 1million with Rocky Fielding like he did with Golovkin. Roy Jones vs Mike Tyson sold like it did because of the matchup. Look at Mayweather vs Berto vs Mayweather vs Mcgregor. Use your brain.
Garcia’s last few fights also had next to no promotion and happened as quietly as possible. Meanwhile look at the campbell fight. There was promotion and 5 mil viewers for the post-fight highlights within an hour.
I dont like Ryan but yeah he did, dont kid yourself. There were a lot of casuals Mexican American and Mexican fans that tuned in, trust me. Ive heard about it all week, even by moms at my youth (non boxing) classes.
Ryan garcia doesn't have a sanificant Mexican fanbase. And certainly not one that consistently tune into his live fights or else his viewership numbers wouldn't be so low. We are talking about a Mexican fanbase that buys and tunes into fights.That critically supports him like Marquez, canelo. Oscar, Ryan doesn't even close to that. His claim to fame is short instagram clips inspiring all of the out of shape soccer moms around America
If you think putting the fight infront of 10m of Ryan’s own fans, plus all the other Andrew Tate-esque youtuber’s didn’t greatly help sell this fight. You are brain dead. Gervonta’s last fight did less than 200k. From Espinosa’s own mouth.
Plenty of bums make hundreds of thousands selling/promoting garbage through tiktok/instagram/youtube etc, you don’t think a fight can’t be sold via social media? 10 million instagram followers but Ryan garcia has yet to even break 1 million viewership for normal televised tv let alone ppv. Ryan garcias tv numbers are low and have always been low which is why his management outside of grouping him with tank never dared lead him on ppv. Ryan garcia is a star on instagram but not on television. Tank left normal television in favor for ppv when he consistently kept breaking viewership numbers on normal televised tv which is something that Ryan has yet to do with all of his10 million instagram followers. Not even 400k of those 10 million tuned into ryans live fights lol its been that way his entire career which means u don't follow him, his stats, or his data break downs. Again tank was breaking normal televised viewership records which is why they moved him to ppv. Tank has the ppv crowd, the experince and the overall televised viewership crowd (Meaning more people that know tank spends on his fights while ryans followers admire short clips of him on instagram but that doesn't necessarily translate into someone viewing your live fight or buying your ppv) u are deluded bro. Just go by the raw numbers between these 2 fighters and see realty.....