Shakur Stevenson In Interview Says Devin Haney's A Weight Bully And It's Too Unfair For Loma

Lomachenko’s fault, that’s a fact. But he’s a small LW compared to other top LW’s. That’s also a fact. The two can be true you know :lol1: yeah hes mos def kinda small for the division

Loma obviously didn't carry his power to this weight class so staying it shows a lot for his will to be great. Certain people here are just simple haters who will discredit any achievements by one fighter and praise the same achievements for another fighter.

Get off my nuts you psycho stalker. You're a shithaus. You post in my thread you nut job. Get the fuck out of here you mental patient. Seriously, I'm going through my message box and you have replied to all kinds of shit, which tells me YOU'VE BEEN STALKING ME!! You are going through THREADS WITH HUNDREDS OF POSTS AND FINDING MINE TO RESPOND TO, WHEN NOBODY WAS TALKING TO YOU. You are LITERALLY SEEKING ME OUT EVERYWHERE. Fucking fruitcake. Seriously man. Seeks some help. You have issues. You really do. Whatever meds you're taking? I'm telling you now, they are not working.

There is a difference between making excuses and bragging about a win that was supposed to happen. Haney walks around near 160. This is his last fight at 135, he will skip to 140 just in time to duck Shakur. You got that Rigo prediction wrong and you’ve been salty ever since. I don't care if he walks around at 275 lbs. If he can make 135, he makes the weight, it's all that matters. Why are you bringing this heat to haney, when Shakur LOST HIS BELT ON THE SCALE??? Why are you ignoring this??

actually I did. Do a search of my name and that date. I picked Rigo to win, but when he quit, there were no excuses about weight. If you sign the contract, STFU about a weight disadvantage. Do a search and i promise you won't see any excuses from me. I'll find the posts and repost them if you want me to. So please Stop lying..There should be no excuses when Loma gets his azz beat. I don't want to hear it There is a difference between making excuses and bragging about a win that was supposed to happen. Haney walks around near 160. This is his last fight at 135, he will skip to 140 just in time to duck Shakur. You got that Rigo prediction wrong and you’ve been salty ever since.

I didn’t say Haney was a weight bully. I said he is naturally much larger than Loma. Haney rehydrates by 20 or more pounds on fight night. There is a reason he told Tank he would never agree to a rehydration clause. The excuses you make for Haney you certainly didn’t go along with when Loma beat Rigo. You’re just a Loma hater. Talk about bullshyt. actually I did. Do a search of my name and that date. I picked Rigo to win, but when he quit, there were no excuses about weight. If you sign the contract, STFU about a weight disadvantage. Do a search and i promise you won't see any excuses from me. I'll find the posts and repost them if you want me to. So please Stop lying..There should be no excuses when Loma gets his azz beat. I don't want to hear it

hold up hold up!!!! So Haney is a weight bully for fighting at 135 where he has been his entire career, but Loma moving DOWN 2 weight classes to fight a guy at 126 that is curren't fighting at 122 but recently moved up from 118 is perfectly fine? Were you drunk or high when you hit "post reply" to this bullshyt? I didn’t say Haney was a weight bully. I said he is naturally much larger than Loma. Haney rehydrates by 20 or more pounds on fight night. There is a reason he told Tank he would never agree to a rehydration clause. The excuses you make for Haney you certainly didn’t go along with when Loma beat Rigo. You’re just a Loma hater. Talk about bullshyt.

All you have to do is look at their body types. Haney is broader, denser, and just an all around bigger fighter than Loma. Shakur has sparred them both and he’s even saying this. I’ll take his word on it since he has been in the ring with both men. Haney has a larger frame, he is struggling to make 135 and likely moves up by years end or 2024. Loma is talking about getting down to 126 for a potential Inoue showdown. hold up hold up!!!! So Haney is a weight bully for fighting at 135 where he has been his entire career, but Loma moving DOWN 2 weight classes to fight a guy at 126 that is curren't fighting at 122 but recently moved up from 118 is perfectly fine? Were you drunk or high when you hit "post reply" to this bullshyt?

do you believe Nakatani walks around at 140? Is that what you're saying? I don't care if a guy puts on 75 lbs after a weigh in, if they make weight, it's all that matters. When Adesanya was ko'd in his previous fight, everyone talked about the weight difference and rehydration, but as long as Periera made weight, I don't see a problem with it. All you have to do is look at their body types. Haney is broader, denser, and just an all around bigger fighter than Loma. Shakur has sparred them both and he’s even saying this. I’ll take his word on it since he has been in the ring with both men. Haney has a larger frame, he is struggling to make 135 and likely moves up by years end or 2024. Loma is talking about getting down to 126 for a potential Inoue showdown.

Height is not the only factor in size difference. Haney is a large lightweight is has outgrown the division and will move to 140 soon enough. Loma is a small lightweight who didn’t carry his power up to 135 with him. He would actually be better at 130. do you believe Nakatani walks around at 140? Is that what you're saying? I don't care if a guy puts on 75 lbs after a weigh in, if they make weight, it's all that matters. When Adesanya was ko'd in his previous fight, everyone talked about the weight difference and rehydration, but as long as Periera made weight, I don't see a problem with it.

They’re too small for their weight classes given how much their opponents weigh on fight night. From the first post, that’s what i’ve been saying. It’s not just that they’re too small for LW, they’re too small given how much their opponents weigh. Both Mayweather and Lomachenko, if they cut weight like other fighters, Loma could fight at 126-130, and Mayweather at 140lbs. In fact if Mayweather really drained himself like these other fighters, I can see him making a catchweight of 138. IF he drained himself as hardcore as these other fighters. If Rocky Marciano was fighting today, at 5’10”, 190lbs on fight night, he would be be closer to a LHW than anything else. Marciano would be too small for Cruiser, where fighters balloon up over 200lbs. LHW, he would be fighting guys weighing in the 180s, 190 max. In today’s boxing landscape, if your fight night weight is very close, 2-5lbs, to your weigh-in weight, you will absolutely be the smaller man in the ring. And often times, lose because of that. Which leads to the fighter just being too small for the weight. I'm not arguing whether they're small for the weight class, that's a given. What they're not is "too small", because, if they were, they wouldn't have been able to dominate the division for the period of times they did. It's just as simple as that.

Ok where did I say Lomachenko was a full fledged LW? Let’s talk about what I’m saying not the words you’re saying I’m saying. Mayweather wasn’t a “full fledged WW” just like Lomachenko isn’t a “full fledged” LW but they both clearly are not is “too small” for their respective weight classes that were talking about (WW and LW) They’re too small for their weight classes given how much their opponents weigh on fight night. From the first post, that’s what i’ve been saying. It’s not just that they’re too small for LW, they’re too small given how much their opponents weigh. Both Mayweather and Lomachenko, if they cut weight like other fighters, Loma could fight at 126-130, and Mayweather at 140lbs. In fact if Mayweather really drained himself like these other fighters, I can see him making a catchweight of 138. IF he drained himself as hardcore as these other fighters. If Rocky Marciano was fighting today, at 5’10”, 190lbs on fight night, he would be be closer to a LHW than anything else. Marciano would be too small for Cruiser, where fighters balloon up over 200lbs. LHW, he would be fighting guys weighing in the 180s, 190 max. In today’s boxing landscape, if your fight night weight is very close, 2-5lbs, to your weigh-in weight, you will absolutely be the smaller man in the ring. And often times, lose because of that. Which leads to the fighter just being too small for the weight.

Height is not the only factor in size difference. Haney is a large lightweight is has outgrown the division and will move to 140 soon enough. Loma is a small lightweight who didn’t carry his power up to 135 with him. He would actually be better at 130. ​ ​ No mention of size or reach difference from you for this one.. The fighter moving up two divisions is not too small. But the fighter who has been successfully fighting in the division for 5 years is too small? Makes absolutely no sense. That is a bigger size difference than the one below. But it doesn't fit the narrative. ​ {"alt":"Click image for larger version Name:\tlomachenko-rigondeaux-weights%20(1).jpg Views:\t0 Size:\t107.5 KB ID:\t31807556","data-align":"none","data-attachmentid":"31807556","data-size":"full","title":"lomachenko-rigondeaux-weights%20(1).jpg"} {"alt":"Click image for larger version Name:\tDevin-Haney-vs-Vasiliy-Lomachenko_pose.jpg Views:\t0 Size:\t40.2 KB ID:\t31807557","data-align":"none","data-attachmentid":"31807557","data-size":"full","title":"Devin-Haney-vs-Vasiliy-Lomachenko_pose.jpg"}

First off, you just disproved your original post, which said that "first there was a catchweight." There was no catchweight and there was never going to be a catchweight. Mannix asked if they'd , and they said they're not leaving 135, that if he wants to go to 135, then fine. He said if Manny wants to fight for Loma's belt at 135, he's free to try. I mean, this is what was going on: People were desperate for Loma to fight Manny at 140 for some reason. Egis said, "No, we're' not going to fight Manny at a catchweight at 140." Simple as. I mean, what should Egis say? No. Even if he comes to 135, we're not going to fight him. Even if Manny is in position to fight for the belt, we're going to duck him? This is all "what if" talk. This article doesn't discuss that there was any attempt or consideration whatsoever to fight. But more important, this is about catchweight, and Loma's manager said "there will be no catchweight." Why? Because he has no intention of fighting Manny. He only said that if Manny wants to fight Lomachenko and can challenge for the belt, then how can they turn Manny away? But all of this is entirely hypothetical. I don't see why this is so hard to understand. No, I didn't. Originally they said they wanted a 137 catchweight, then they changed it to 135 which is actually worse. You've just said that Mayweather requested a rehydration clause because "Canelo said so" but now you're saying Klimas word is meaningless essentially? They expressed interest in a Pacquaio fight, also confirmed by Bob Arum. Originally 137, then 135. Neither were going to happen at those weights anyway because Pacquaio's wasn't able to go that low.

“We have no interest ,” Klimas told Chris Mannix of Yahoo! Sports. “If Pacquiao can make 135, to come in and compete for WBA title, Vasyl is the champion in that weight class, it’s a possibility.” “If we are talking 137 and 136, no, there will be no catch weight. If he wants to challenge, he needs to come down. We are not looking to go to 140 pounds. If Manny Pacquiao wants to fight Lomachenko, he can make 135 pounds.” Team Lomachenko: Pacquiao Must Go To 135 - No Catch-Weight! - Boxing News (boxingscene.com)​ Way after he'd lose to Horn, by the way, He'd just beaten Matthysee. First off, you just disproved your original post, which said that "first there was a catchweight." There was no catchweight and there was never going to be a catchweight. Mannix asked if they'd , and they said they're not leaving 135, that if he wants to go to 135, then fine. He said if Manny wants to fight for Loma's belt at 135, he's free to try. I mean, this is what was going on: Egis Klimas, the manager of WBA lightweight champion Vasyl Lomachenko (11-1, 9 KOs), made it clear that his boxer is not willing to move up to the junior welterweight limit of 140 pounds for a catch-weight bout with Manny Pacquiao. People were desperate for Loma to fight Manny at 140 for some reason. Egis said, "No, we're' not going to fight Manny at a catchweight at 140." Simple as. I mean, what should Egis say? No. Even if he comes to 135, we're not going to fight him. Even if Manny is in position to fight for the belt, we're going to duck him? This is all "what if" talk. This article doesn't discuss that there was any attempt or consideration whatsoever to fight. But more important, this is about catchweight, and Loma's manager said "there will be no catchweight." Why? Because he has no intention of fighting Manny. He only said that if Manny wants to fight Lomachenko and can challenge for the belt, then how can they turn Manny away? But all of this is entirely hypothetical. I don't see why this is so hard to understand.

Please. Post some reliable news source that Loma wanted to fight Manny. I already said he didn't want to fight him because Manny lost to Horn, and it would have been a bad look. The only reason this was a topic was due to dumbass reporter wannabes asking Loma and Manny dumb questions. Manny didn't want to fight Loma and Loma didn't want to fight Manny. He said Manny was a welterweight. This is some weird thing fabricated by the Internet press. Like Fight Hype and Fight Hub. It's all make believe. “We have no interest ,” Klimas told Chris Mannix of Yahoo! Sports. “If Pacquiao can make 135, to come in and compete for WBA title, Vasyl is the champion in that weight class, it’s a possibility.” “If we are talking 137 and 136, no, there will be no catch weight. If he wants to challenge, he needs to come down. We are not looking to go to 140 pounds. If Manny Pacquiao wants to fight Lomachenko, he can make 135 pounds.” Team Lomachenko: Pacquiao Must Go To 135 - No Catch-Weight! - Boxing News (boxingscene.com)​ Way after he'd lose to Horn, by the way, He'd just beaten Matthysee.

He did say he was interested. First the talk was 137 lb catchweight then it changed to 135. If he wanted him at 135 then that's even worse because he'd be even more drained. Again, neither here nor there. Please. Post some reliable news source that Loma wanted to fight Manny. I already said he didn't want to fight him because Manny lost to Horn, and it would have been a bad look. The only reason this was a topic was due to dumbass reporter wannabes asking Loma and Manny dumb questions. Manny didn't want to fight Loma and Loma didn't want to fight Manny. He said Manny was a welterweight. This is some weird thing fabricated by the Internet press. Like Fight Hype and Fight Hub. It's all make believe.

That’s not true man. Loma never wanted to fight Manny. He said he wasn’t going to 140 and Manny said he can’t make 135 anymore. That’s what happened. And Loma didn’t want to fight him anyway because he’d just lost to Horn. He did say he was interested. First the talk was 137 lb catchweight then it changed to 135. If he wanted him at 135 then that's even worse because he'd be even more drained. Again, neither here nor there.

So Canelo says, we don't know if that's true or not. What we do know is the fight didn't have a rehydration clause and neither did any of Floyd's fights. Lomacnehko asked for a Catchweight when he wanted to fight Pacquaio. It's neither here nor there. That’s not true man. Loma never wanted to fight Manny. He said he wasn’t going to 140 and Manny said he can’t make 135 anymore. That’s what happened. And Loma didn’t want to fight him anyway because he’d just lost to Horn.

how about this? no one had a problem with this though. {"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","title":"Vasiliy_Lomachenko_vs_Masayoshi_Nakatani_wide_pose2.jpg","data-attachmentid":31807414} Height is not the only factor in size difference. Haney is a large lightweight is has outgrown the division and will move to 140 soon enough. Loma is a small lightweight who didn’t carry his power up to 135 with him. He would actually be better at 130.