List of excuses when Loma beats Haney

Yeah I'm lying https://www.boxingscene.com/amp/haney-concerned-with-ramadan-odds-with-top-rank-over-lomachenko-fight-date--171140 Lmfao moron That was an older news dumb a$$. He praised arum recently you dimwit.

I’m rooting for Lomachenko, he isn’t beating huggy Haney. Lomachenko is too passive when it comes to doing something about huggers, low blowers, etc. Loma was a great amateur. He struggles with pros that dont fight like amateurs. Dealing with dirty fighters is part of the business.

Not really. I agree that Loma lost that fight whatever the reason is. The point I am making is that whatever fights he takes, the haters point in the other direction Naw dude. You’re making excuses for Loma losing. Youre going to do same when Haney wins. Yet you’re lecturing Haney fans on not making excuses if he loses.

I’m rooting for Lomachenko, he isn’t beating huggy Haney. Lomachenko is too passive when it comes to doing something about huggers, low blowers, etc. - - Loma had Salido ready to go bye-bye but for crooked Laurence Cole pulling him off any time he got on top of the headbutting, low blowing, hugging and then hitting on the break who committed more fouls than he landed punches. Shhhh, not to mention being several pounds over the weight limit of his championship defense....noone should know...NOONE!!! So, Loma a natural feather was fighting a big welter that night as he exposed not only Salido and Cole, but also boxing corruption. What, U no watch boxing not to know this?

Haney excuse - ''All of a sudden, me hugging is a bad thing.....'' Loma excuse - ''I won the 2nd 1/2 and should have won the fight.'' Has all the makings of being a boring fight.

I’m rooting for Lomachenko, he isn’t beating huggy Haney. Lomachenko is too passive when it comes to doing something about huggers, low blowers, etc.

What are you talking about. Haney fans as well as Haney himself is crying about how Arum is trying to do him dirty and starve him during Ramadan :bsflag:​ Last time I checked, he was praising arum as a promoter, so quit lying. That's all loma fans do because loma has been lying and insulting what little intelligence you all have.

No excuses. If Loma defeats Haney. It would only signify that he was the better fighter all along and cement his legacy as a three divisional titleholder and undisputed champion. Totally agree with you. Watch some people scream he was ducking Shakur or Tank by fighting Haney.

So when Loma was the champ, a specific group of seemingly bipolar people were screaming that he was avoiding Teo because he would be carried out on stretchers. The injured Loma took the fight, didn't get battered (yes, he lost on points but still looked better than Lopez). Now these people are foaming that he took the Teo fight to duck Haney. What's on the list of excuses when the one dimensional Haney gets schooled by Loma? No excuses. If Loma defeats Haney. It would only signify that he was the better fighter all along and cement his legacy as a three divisional titleholder and undisputed champion.

I take it when Loma loses to Haney, your excuse will be "(yes, he lost on points but still looked better than Haney)" man, Loma is fighting way above his natural fight and it is still not enough for you. What I am saying is that no matter who he fights, it will never be enough for some people here. The man is one of the very few who is trying to deliver to boxing fans by fighting top boxers above his weight

Great match up. People tend to underestimate both guys. Haney has an awesome jab, that is partially what allows him to work into a clinch. Loma is Loma and even in his twilight has experience and footwork in spades. Loma does fight in the clinch, just ask Rigo lol. This will be close and push both guys to hit another gear and not coast.

So when Loma was the champ, a specific group of seemingly bipolar people were screaming that he was avoiding Teo because he would be carried out on stretchers. The injured Loma took the fight, didn't get battered (yes, he lost on points but still looked better than Lopez). Now these people are foaming that he took the Teo fight to duck Haney. What's on the list of excuses when the one dimensional Haney gets schooled by Loma? I take it when Loma loses to Haney, your excuse will be "(yes, he lost on points but still looked better than Haney)"

You’re making excuses for Loma losing in this post. Haney fans should be allowed to make excuses just like you. Not really. I agree that Loma lost that fight whatever the reason is. The point I am making is that whatever fights he takes, the haters point in the other direction

Loma fans already have a list of built in excuses when devin beats loma, and I don't see any devin haney fans coming up with a bunch of built in excuses. I wouldn't be surprised if Haney wins this. He's got a very educated lead and that, with the length, speed, and good pop out footwork, will make it hard for Loma to close. He's good at banking rounds too. If he does come up short, however, here's a list of excuses for you. He's nearly outgrown the division, and he'll be weight drained. He already doesn't have much power to speak of, which will make it harder to keep Loma off, and when Loma comes in form, he's a very tough puzzle to crack. Arguably nobody really has, as he was injured in an essential way against Lopez, and he started too late against Salido. But many, maybe even most, thought he was winning the later rounds handily. Loma does most of his offense off the front foot, so Haney will have to be able to put him on the back foot. He may not have the power at 135 to do that. He's vulnerable to the southpaw cross lead, which is Loma's bread and butter. That's partly because he relies too heavily on defending power shots with just his rear glove, and that makes him more vulnerable, especially to an opponent who feints. He's also well known for a jab and clinch style, and won't be accustomed to having his opponent drain him or rough him up when he clinches, and he already has a tendency to fade a little in later rounds, which usually doesn't matter because he's so good at banking early ones. I think the first 3 or four rounds will really tell us a lot. I'm betting that Loma will need to start faster than his usual to beat Haney. If Haney is able to push Loma back in early rounds and neutralize his angles, much like Jamaine Ortiz managed for most of the fight, he'll likely win a decision, possibly wide. But if it's competitive in the early rounds and Loma's activity is high in by round 4, that's going to be a bad sign for Haney. I'm honestly expecting one of them to really separate himself from the other. Either Haney will demonstrate that he's really on another level defensively and be able to keep Loma off, or Loma will remind everyone why he's likely a first ballot HOF, and one of the greatest amateurs ever. But the exciting thing is that I don't know which one will happen. Haney's got tools that rightly make him the favorite, but Loma's got that exciting style and all the experience, and Haney is just limited enough to make a Loma victory a possibility. I actually respect Haney quite a bit. He got to undisputed the hard way, even starting his career in Mexican bars, not on a Top Rank televised card. This will be the hardest fight yet for both of them, I suspect, however. Maybe not as fan friendly as Davis v Garcia, but will be one of the best technical matchups in modern boxing IMO. I also hope if Haney does win that he'll stick around long enough to fight Davis and Shakur. If he can beat Loma and those two on top of the resume he's already got, and then have time to move up and take on the field at 140, that would really cement him as one of the best right now.

Haney better have better luck holding than Nakatani and Commey did... Loma is very good against people who try to clinch him. He's scored knockdowns when people tried to hold him. If that's his strategy to win, that makes it more likely for Loma to win. Just hope they both make it to the ring uninjured. I hope you’re right, crimson. Rooting for Loma all the way

Loma fans already have a list of built in excuses when devin beats loma, and I don't see any devin haney fans coming up with a bunch of built in excuses. Probably because Haney doesn't have any fans.

Loma fans already have a list of built in excuses when devin beats loma, and I don't see any devin haney fans coming up with a bunch of built in excuses.

So when Loma was the champ, a specific group of seemingly bipolar people were screaming that he was avoiding Teo because he would be carried out on stretchers. The injured Loma took the fight, didn't get battered (yes, he lost on points but still looked better than Lopez). Now these people are foaming that he took the Teo fight to duck Haney. What's on the list of excuses when the one dimensional Haney gets schooled by Loma? You’re making excuses for Loma losing in this post. Haney fans should be allowed to make excuses just like you.

I have no problem with holding when it isn’t used EVERTIME an opponent tries to get off. Thats why boxers are taught head & foot movement. Hitting then grabbing to prevent counters is horrible to watch. Haney is horrible and boring to watch when he does that. He’s too fast to need that crap. He has that size advantage for WHAT? He never uses it. He always fights like he’s scared and small. Not every-time but you know what I mean. Sure do, and I don't disagree. My point has always been that there's techniques to counter that style that Loma is very good at, maybe the best in the world for active boxers, that aren't commonly seen, and I'm quite sure Haney won't have faced in the ring. He can watch tape, but when it comes to clinch, that's all feel and timing, and he's going to have to adapt on the fly. If he's going to depend on the hug, Loma will light him up and sap his strength. You can be sure that Papachenko has watched all the tape on Haney and knows that tendency. In contrast, Loma is very familiar with people trying to clinch him, because that's the resort that all of his opponents end up with at some point. I think Haney's jab is going to be the main thing for Loma to deal with, not the hugging. But we'll see soon enough. Fascinating fight.

There's a wide variety of techniques to clinch work WITHIN boxing that are legal. Holding is illegal under the Marquess of Queensbury rules and I believe in the amateurs, but the unified rules only specifically prohibit holding the head and "aggressive wrestling," etc. Otherwise there's very lenient rules, and referees are given lots of leeway to let fighters fight out of the clinch, etc. Obviously they need to break when told, and there's lots of rules relating to the break, but those wouldn't even exist if tying up was illegal. Why do you think you see it in most fights? Mainly the ref will break if there's not sufficient action or it looks like there won't be. Loma is expert at keeping things going inside when it's advantageous for him, eg he's got dominant head/body position, and when it's not, and he wants to create separation, he'll drop his weight down with his arms up and put all the weight on his opponent's biceps, and look like he's actively trying to pull free, which will bring an immediate call for a break. He'll usually turn the clinch so he's got his back to the ref so the ref can clearly see he's trying to pull free. Every fighter Loma has faced in the pro ranks has tried to tie up at some point. Haney's hugging isn't going to be anything different. And I really doubt Haney has seen anything like what Loma does in the clinch. I have no problem with holding when it isn’t used EVERTIME an opponent tries to get off. Thats why boxers are taught head & foot movement. Hitting then grabbing to prevent counters is horrible to watch. Haney is horrible and boring to watch when he does that. He’s too fast to need that crap. He has that size advantage for WHAT? He never uses it. He always fights like he’s scared and small. Not every-time but you know what I mean.