Fury and Wilder won`t beat Joshua

A cautious Joshua doesn't get beaten by Ruiz. Ruiz would need Joshua to stand with him and exchange. He wouldn't do that again. That's the whole point of the criticism of him. And we'll remember you said Whyte destroys him when they inevitably meet again this year. A decent matchup but Joshua will be a big favourite. It's funny how opinions can be so wild about boxers. After a wide, unanimous points win he's now finished. He gets beaten by Ruiz despite the fact he beat him last time in a very wide, almost uncompetitive, decision. And he gets beaten by Whyte despite leaving him asleep on the canvas last time they fought when Whyte was arguably at his best. He's nowhere near as finished as people think. You'll know where he's at when he's in a big fight. If you based everything off how fighters fight lower level fighters then Usyk, Fury, Wilder would all be considered trash. All struggled in recent history with fringe guys. In my defense I said Whyte beats him not that he would destroy him.

The AJ that fought yesterday gets destroyed by Fury, Wilder and Joyce , also loses to Ruiz and Whyte ... A cautious Joshua doesn't get beaten by Ruiz. Ruiz would need Joshua to stand with him and exchange. He wouldn't do that again. That's the whole point of the criticism of him. And we'll remember you said Whyte destroys him when they inevitably meet again this year. A decent matchup but Joshua will be a big favourite. It's funny how opinions can be so wild about boxers. After a wide, unanimous points win he's now finished. He gets beaten by Ruiz despite the fact he beat him last time in a very wide, almost uncompetitive, decision. And he gets beaten by Whyte despite leaving him asleep on the canvas last time they fought when Whyte was arguably at his best. He's nowhere near as finished as people think. You'll know where he's at when he's in a big fight. If you based everything off how fighters fight lower level fighters then Usyk, Fury, Wilder would all be considered trash. All struggled in recent history with fringe guys.

One can never truly tell with a comebacking talent. One fight Holyfield was a shadow struggling to put away a natural middleweight in Bobby Czyz, the next he's dominating, dropping and stopping Mike Tyson. Yes. everybody expected Mike to beat Holy. That is not what happened.

One can never truly tell with a comebacking talent. One fight Holyfield was a shadow struggling to put away a natural middleweight in Bobby Czyz, the next he's dominating, dropping and stopping Mike Tyson.

The AJ that fought yesterday gets destroyed by Fury, Wilder and Joyce , also loses to Ruiz and Whyte ... I agree with all but Whyte i still see him beating Whyte easily still lets not forget how bad Whyte looked in the Franklin fight and how Franklin got the Aj fight in the first place.

The AJ that fought yesterday gets destroyed by Fury, Wilder and Joyce , also loses to Ruiz and Whyte ...

I speak the truth. Fury is not a serious fighter with any intention on fighting true fighters. Fury has fought Chisora in his last fight and he will probably fight a bum next. Or maybe that UFC guy. And I clearly won`t support that. one thing to remember fury has won every single belt it was possible to win. from local to national to world titles since 2009 or thereabouts. he has never lost. he has a heck of a lot of bodies on his record. some only became aware of him when he challenged wilder. but he has been fighting top prospects for nearly 20 years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnnHprUGKF0 and a clashing blow from a huge right hand sent a joshua fella to the promised land.....this summer

If either man fought AJ now. Wilder v AJ would be similar to Tyson v Bruno, a brave Joshua battered in around five rounds. Fury v AJ. Joshua has good moment s but is eventually stopped in around 11. that is exactly what i think,

I speak the truth. Fury is not a serious fighter with any intention on fighting true fighters. Fury has fought Chisora in his last fight and he will probably fight a bum next. Or maybe that UFC guy. And I clearly won`t support that. Well you can change your opinion but it seems like you going over the top now like bodybagz with GGG you do you man i will stick with Fury even though he isn't the same as he used to be that fight not being made was both their fault whatever people might say.

Went from a Fury fan with his profile pic ect to a full on hater he’s the perfect example I speak on when i say finicky fake fans. Yes the OP is the very definition of a casual, fickle boxing fan. Watch him change his pic to DDD if he upsets Usyk.

Went from a Fury fan with his profile pic ect to a full on hater he’s the perfect example I speak on when i say finicky fake fans. I speak the truth. Fury is not a serious fighter with any intention on fighting true fighters. Fury has fought Chisora in his last fight and he will probably fight a bum next. Or maybe that UFC guy. And I clearly won`t support that.

I want to see them all fight. Joshua was unimpressive but I couldn't say he struggled with Franklin. He beat him pretty convincingly. Mind you, who knows whether Franklin is a resilient fighter or a can? He's an unknown quantity. Personally I haven't seen anything of Wilder since the Fury fights to say he's definitely back in the picture. I mean he landed one punch on Helenius half a year ago... it made for good headlines but did we learn anything from that? There are proper fights out there for all of them. They just have to make them or take them.

Would still like to see him vs Wilder. Yes Wilder could spark him out really early but he also can't box effectively at world level. He loses most round and increasingly he is going to be getting lumped up and hurt in those rounds. AJ's head movement isn't the best but on the plus side he does most things better than Wilder. It's the fight I'd chase if I was AJ really. Yeah Wilder is really dangerous but he's got just as many miles on the clock if not more and he's not as good as you albeit he could sent you to the shadow realm. Wilder also isn't a large heavyweight. Not convinced he drains the AJ tank like others as long as AJ can handle his own breathing and output.

Joshua out boxes both , Furys just a very sloppy giant needing size to win and Wilder is terrible when pressured ……todays fans and pundits are garbage as well this forum proves that time and again. Nothing but man fans on here and the very overatted Fury would get lumped up by Joshua he’d be far easier to hit then Franklin so ? Enjoy hype jobs Fury and Wilder 2 con artists while Usyk and Joshua actually carry the division . :cool2: ”Joshua outboxes Fury”. :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

OP talks absolute rubbish. I can never work out whether he’s trolling or not.

They won’t just beat him…they’ll destroy him. If the version from today shows up in the ring against them. Based on what? Fury's last two fights, have barely been at World level. Joshua was not troubled at all by the best ever version of Franklin 'Franklin on current form is a higher level fighter than Chisora'. Of course the performance was not as destructive as people were anticipating from Joshua 'But it was a easy enough systematic win'. Franklin is a more in form fighter than Chisora 'And would most likely beat Chisora at this stage of his career'. Joshua is a solid super heavyweight who from mid-long range has good boxing skills 'People have also criticized the holding and wrestling on the inside from Joshua last night'. But I actually think this aspect of his game has always needed improving. Tyson Fury will have a difficult time trying to bull and wrestle Joshua about. Joshua for me is a physically stronger fighter than Fury 'Even when Joshua was weighing close to 240 pounds, the ceiling of his bruit strength was still greater than Fury's'. For all the people who try to make out Fury is some sort of genetic monster 'The fact of the matter is, he is not solid at the weight'. Fury also has bulled no other super heavyweight, the only fighters he has attempted to imposed his strength on are Wilder & USS Cunningham 'Fighters who he has out weighed by a considerably amount' Every single time at top level Fury has come up against another Super Heavyweight or solid Heavyweight 'Go back and check his fights, Fury does not really engage with these fighters head on'. So stylistically the fight between Joshua & Fury is not as straight forward as Fury blasting Joshua out 'If Fury would not fight a miles out of condition Chisora head on, then don't kid yourselves he is not fighting Joshua head on offensively'. Note: I see that Fury's hardcore fans are still giving Fury credit for fighters he has not fought 'It is not going to work anymore mate, it is not working anymore guys'. Fury has to actually face and beat these fighters to gain the credit for beating them. Fury has had more performances than Joshua that were not impressive in his career against lower level fighters than Franklin 'For one, I don't think Ottin Wallin is a more proven fighter than Franklin, and Fury was busted up real good and push by Wallin'.

If fury don't fight josh, I will put blame it on fury and and in a fantasy fight i d give the win to Jo sh as he beat him in sparring. Yes, Josh beats wilder on points.

OP talks absolute rubbish. Went from a Fury fan with his profile pic ect to a full on hater he’s the perfect example I speak on when i say finicky fake fans.

OP talks absolute rubbish.

If AJ fights either if them, he will definitely have to do way more than he did vs Frankie. AJ was 2x the size of Frankie and yet he was so fckin cautious. After 8 rds, he was still weary of Frankie's jab ! The fight should have been stopped by then. Wilder and Fury would have stopped him in 5 with authority. Not saying AJ can't beat them, just that he has to wake the fck up and find whatever it was that made him the champ.