Is there any justification for Tyson Fury not doing the fight with Usyk on the 29th? Im trying to think of if there is any way that he could spin this in his favor
There has never been a elite Champion, who has been so difficult to fight 'This behavior and Fury's antics is unprecedented'.
People complained about the Kiltschko era, but not because they did not make fights 'The Kiltschko's fought everyone on rotation, regardless of whether they were big fighters or not'.
As Champions the Kiltschko's adhered to their requirements 'They were the embodiment of Champions'.
Tyson Fury is a great fighter, and he is not a bad guy. But Fury and his fans, seem to make up new rules for Fury I.E Fury gets credit for beating fighters he has not beaten, and apparently there is no obligation for him to face certain fighters regardless of rankings 'All because they don't deem his competition worthy'.
The reality of the situation is, that Tyson Fury has had a total of 6 Championship fights 'And he has achieved 3 successful defenses'.
Statistically and on merit he has not transcended the belts.
- - :yo: KDummy, Usyk the A-side can make more $$$ fighting Hrgovic in Saudi Arabia than Blubber who now sentenced to permanent confinement to England.
Blubber about as reliable as U, the reason he confined to England...:yeah:
If u say so i very much doubt it lets see how Usyk does on his own, everybody like you only jumped on his dick after beating AJ he had no support before. I don't even care cuz boxing fans are the biggest fakes going and what i said was fact. Talking about fatties when your nation is literally the king/queen of fatties you guys got lard in the veins.
Lol... he'll come up with something.
If there's one thing Fury can do besides fighting it's create a story to make himself look good and the other guy look bad.
Until now. He's been shown up by Usyk.
I'm sure he'll brazen it out and fool a couple of low IQ types, but most finally see through it now.
Lol... he'll come up with something.
If there's one thing Fury can do besides fighting it's create a story to make himself look good and the other guy look bad.
The only way is that it’s usyks team that has walked away not Furys team. Plus Usyk demanding 70-30 in the rematch may be a little too high considering Usyk can’t sell a ticket.
other than that it’s mainly on furys side
We must always remember. Its not a boxing match no more but a POPULARITY CONTEST. Teenage girls now run boxing and teen girl fans support this crap.
Is there any justification for Tyson Fury not doing the fight with Usyk on the 29th? Im trying to think of if there is any way that he could spin this in his favor
No it’s a joke.
fury fears Usyks skills let’s be honest.
Usyk does that because he isn’t the A side simple as fighters have value on the market and for him to be 30 - 70 against Fury is silly as i say 50/50 seems fair for the rematch if Usyk wins. Market value/percentage is not based on achievements or belts as much as we don’t like the fact Fury is bringing in most the money so it makes no sense for him to take 30% thats a gamble against what he would be owed.
I will be called an ass kisser now but i dont even care its facts Usyk asking for 70% in the rematch if he wins was dumb.
- - :yo: KDummy, Usyk the A-side can make more $$$ fighting Hrgovic in Saudi Arabia than Blubber who now sentenced to permanent confinement to England.
Blubber about as reliable as U, the reason he confined to England...:yeah:
Fury thinks that Usyk is going to win. If Fury thought he was going to win, he'd be ecstatic about 70 to the winner in the rematch, because then he'd get 70 in BOTH fights. He's been ducking the whole time. You have to open your eyes a little here. If it wasn't this, it would be gloves, or ring size, or who the water vendor is.
Oh I see. I thought maybe fury didn't want to give usy k too much, as usy k might use money to help his country during this horrible war.
I really dont know how a fight isnt being made? Just give Usyk what he wants. Tyson has been through far worse than giving Usyk what he doesnt want to give Usyk. He was suicidal, so whats the worse that can happen by giving Usyk more than what Usyk deserves?
Fury thinks that Usyk is going to win. If Fury thought he was going to win, he'd be ecstatic about 70 to the winner in the rematch, because then he'd get 70 in BOTH fights. He's been ducking the whole time. You have to open your eyes a little here. If it wasn't this, it would be gloves, or ring size, or who the water vendor is.
I really dont know how a fight isnt being made? Just give Usyk what he wants. Tyson has been through far worse than giving Usyk what he doesnt want to give Usyk. He was suicidal, so whats the worse that can happen by giving Usyk more than what Usyk deserves?
Yes, Fury needs to give Usyk more than he wants? How bad can that be? Whats the worse that can happen by that?
Usyk does that because he isn’t the A side simple as fighters have value on the market and for him to be 30 - 70 against Fury is silly as i say 50/50 seems fair for the rematch if Usyk wins. Market value/percentage is not based on achievements or belts as much as we don’t like the fact Fury is bringing in most the money so it makes no sense for him to take 30% thats a gamble against what he would be owed.
I will be called an ass kisser now but i dont even care its facts Usyk asking for 70% in the rematch if he wins was dumb.
I'm guessing math isn't your strong suit. Usyk was asking for 70 to the winner, not a guaranteed 70 to Usyk.
So I'm going to ask you again. Why would Usyk be worth only 30 as an undefeated unified champion, but then 50 as a defeated belt-less challenger?
Under Usyk's proposal, he would have had to take 30 in both fights if Fury won the first fight.
If Fury wants money, why not take the extra 20%? Why insist that Usyk get even more for the rematch after Usyk loses?
This is horse****. If Fury wins, he'd get more money with a 70 to the winner split. There's no more that really needs being said. If it was about money, 70 to the winner is more money in Fury's pocket.
If you think Usyk is only worth 30 as an undefeated unified champion, who's also undisputed cruiserweight champion, why on earth would he be worth 50 after he loses to Fury? Fury is literally begging to give Usyk more money in the rematch... Unless Fury thinks he's going to lose.
Also, nobody agrees to that? Usyk did. He's never ducked anyone, unlike Fury, who has never fought a single unification, and only fights mandatories when he's legally forced to.
Usyk does that because he isn’t the A side simple as fighters have value on the market and for him to be 30 - 70 against Fury is silly as i say 50/50 seems fair for the rematch if Usyk wins. Market value/percentage is not based on achievements or belts as much as we don’t like the fact Fury is bringing in most the money so it makes no sense for him to take 30% thats a gamble against what he would be owed.
I will be called an ass kisser now but i dont even care its facts Usyk asking for 70% in the rematch if he wins was dumb.
Cuz nobody agrees to that and u wouldn't expect anybody else to take that risk either literally betting millions when anything can happen in a fight is dumb. Usyk knows full well he isn't worth 70% in the rematch even if he wins i would say 50 - 60% is more fair as he would be undisputed but still Fury is the main draw that's just how it is.
This is horsesh*t. If Fury wins, he'd get more money with a 70 to the winner split. There's no more that really needs being said. If it was about money, 70 to the winner is more money in Fury's pocket.
If you think Usyk is only worth 30 as an undefeated unified champion, who's also undisputed cruiserweight champion, why on earth would he be worth 50 after he loses to Fury? Fury is literally begging to give Usyk more money in the rematch... Unless Fury thinks he's going to lose.
Also, nobody agrees to that? Usyk did. He's never ducked anyone, unlike Fury, who has never fought a single unification, and only fights mandatories when he's legally forced to.
Let's see, his team put in the rematch clause to begin, and if he gets the 50/50 split, Usyk will get 30 first fight and 50 second fight. But if he accepts the 70/30 to the winner second fight, he would get 70 in both fights if he wins, and Usyk would be agreeing to the short end of the split in both fights.
He's saying, "you're only worth 30 now, when you're an undefeated three belt world champion, but after I beat you, you'll somehow be worth 50."
Usyk would get 30 in both fights if he loses fight 1 based on split Usyk is requesting, and Fury would get 70 in both fights.
Usyk only gets a better split if Usyk wins the first fight.
You tell me, why doesn't Fury want to take 70 in both fights, if he's so confident in beating the "middleweight"?
Cuz nobody agrees to that and u wouldn't expect anybody else to take that risk either literally betting millions when anything can happen in a fight is dumb. Usyk knows full well he isn't worth 70% in the rematch even if he wins i would say 50 - 60% is more fair as he would be undisputed but still Fury is the main draw that's just how it is.
Usyk is one scary dude! I mean, Fury jumped right in with the hardest puncher in the division three times but he shies away from Usyk? Something has got him very feel.
- - The Feel looks like he might like Blubbered liver...:yeah:
I think Fury is ducking Usyk, but that’s as far as I go. There was zero hesitation in Fury fighting Joshua.
1. Wilder blocked the fight with a lawsuit.
2. Joshua lost to Usyk twice.
3. There is little to no point in fighting Joshua coming off back to back losses.
So Wilder and Usyk both stopped Fury vs AJ.
There was literally nothing Fury can do about any of that.
- - Now, Kevvy, there you go again.
Eddie spent over a month putting together a Saudi $150 mil 50/50 package for the AJ fight that Blubber say he wanted.
Time to sign the contract, he shat his shorts for peanuts vs Deyonce whom he already KOed.
Settled history son. Now Blubber has publicly shat himself yet again, but now many of his fans are turning on him. Hope AJ and Usyk who gave us great fights never attempt another ill deserved payday for him now. Usyk makes more fighting Hrgovic in Saudi Arabia, and truth be told looks to be smart enough to get out of such a dirty sport sooner rather than later as does AJ.
And who stopped him living up to his contractual commitments in the 20 months before he fought Wilder?
Do me a favour and go through his fight history from 2015.
I don't understand how anyone can think he was lying this time but was telling the truth all of the others!
He kept delaying Klitschko and eventually quit.
He walked away from an ordered rematch v Wilder to fight Tom Schwarz (Hearn claims AJ offered 60/40 at this point, by the way. Fury countered with 50/50!).
He had to be ordered by a judge to fight Wilder.
He petitioned the WBC to price out Whyte.
He priced himself out of the Usyk fight.
And through all of them he called out every big name and said he didn't care who he fought.
Yet you think he was up front when it came to fighting Joshua?
The man fights as infrequently as possible, for as much money as possible, with as little risk as possible, and while calling out every name possible. He's always done it. This week's events aren't new. Not even slightly. It's the same Fury that he's always been.
I like Fury but i’m not that big of a fan to actually sit here and debate all that in his name. I’m not his attorney or promoter, or wife.