- - Usyk been A side from inception. Blubber the B side shytes in the field of his encampment.
AJ chased him out of the UK into the loving arms of the Irish Mafia, currently banned from boxing.
Usyk 70/30 split minimum. Blubber with a history of not making the scratch line lucky to deserve #30%
- - Just a reminder for the usual monkeys escaped from the zoo now populating the forum.
Fury can fight Joshua, Joyce or Wilder. He can fill stadiums and sell PPVs.
Usyk can return to his janitor job at Ukrainian schools. :boxing:
Fury can ''do'' lots of things
So far, he's happy to talk about doing things
Keep playing the 9 yo. Eventually, Ukrainian draft dodger will have to accept 60/40. :lol1:
Maybe Seferi should call out Fury
Fury is all about them rematches :boxing:
Usyk also said he doesn’t care about the money and he only wants the Fury fight ect if you gonna be critical be consistent at the end of the day Usyk has gone a bit greedy apparently Arum is the one not accepting the 50/50 not Fury.
Fury is a lot more popular and brings in more money than Usyk thats facts and we know bums on seats is what makes money, whats Usyks biggest PPV without AJ?
People have been fooled by the goofy image of Usyk I’m very feel ect and seem to think the guy is the real deal i don’t buy it. Im glad its getting rid of all the fake Fury fans though.
50/50 is greedy? He's bringing 3 belts and traveling to fury's backyard, I think it's more than reasonable.
Usyk Chisora did over a million ppv buys in the UK, usyk is legit in the UK. 500k with bellew.
We as good as know that fury's last two haven't come anywhere near that million in the UK otherwise Warren would've been crowing about the numbers.
So on that basis, I'm sticking with 50/50 being fair.
I'm hoping it gets announced during the Paul/fury fight tonight, as one of the rumours goes. Unfortunately I think it's more likely not to happen on the 29th April, which is a massive shame.
As for fake fury fans, I've been following him done the early days, being originally from the UK. I'm a fan of boxing first and foremost. Cheerleading boxers and machine excuses for them is pretty lame.
Logic doesn't work like that. Even Crawbum wanna more money than Spence despite his limited ability, limited talent, dogshıt resume and one poor WBO belt.
60/40 is ideal for Fury-Usyk. Usyk's greed is the only reason this fight hasn't completed its deal yet.
Seems like Fury is losing his bottle, and his fans are already coming up with excuses if he ends up fighting another no-hoper.
Give up the chance to fight for the undisputed heavyweight championship over a small percentage, when he’s claimed time and time again he doesn’t care about money and he’s already got enough to last a lifetime? GTFOH with that blatant duck.
Sadly, more TV viewers in Britain were interested in watching Usyk fight Tony Bellew than any of Fury's fights. Not to mention that Usyk v Chosora, Joshua 1 and Joshua 2 were three of the top 10 UK PPV events. In comparison, Fury's numbers of late, have been mediocre at best.
Though, sure, Stadium ticket sales are a nice additional revenue stream, but they aren't the primary one. There is a reason why Warren was losing his mind that Whyte wasn't helping to promote the PPV...
So, given Fury's lack of PPV success in his own country, it's probably not the brightest idea to make inflated demands of the Saudis. Let alone 60-40 against the P4P#1 with the track record of bringing in the UK TV viewers.
because he knows he was not the draw in that fight.
you realize the money generated by the fight doesnt come from the belts but the fighters popularity?
I'd say the belts help sell tickets. Marketing somebody as a world champion or a fight as a championship or undisputed fight helps sell the fight
the ONLY reason he got 50-50 in the rematch with AJ was because he had leverage, if AJ wanted a shot at his belts back he had to agree to it.
Usyk isnt selling 50 percent of the tickets here.
The fact that he holds 3 titles and he is a big part of the reason why this would be a historic, legacy fight is his leverage here imo.
I mean you know Usyk was a contender than, right? Why are you repeating this?
because he knows he was not the draw in that fight.
you realize the money generated by the fight doesnt come from the belts but the fighters popularity?
the ONLY reason he got 50-50 in the rematch with AJ was because he had leverage, if AJ wanted a shot at his belts back he had to agree to it.
Usyk isnt selling 50 percent of the tickets here.
Fury already owns all those belts, he’s won them all before, he said he doesn’t need them all twice and not bothered about “undisputed” and that he will throw away the IBF straight away
so it depends how much Usyk is desperate for the final belt ..
- - Usyk been A side from inception. Blubber the B side shytes in the field of his encampment.
AJ chased him out of the UK into the loving arms of the Irish Mafia, currently banned from boxing.
Usyk 70/30 split minimum. Blubber with a history of not making the scratch line lucky to deserve #30%
Fury already owns all those belts, he’s won them all before, he said he doesn’t need them all twice and not bothered about “undisputed” and that he will throw away the IBF straight away
so it depends how much Usyk is desperate for the final belt ..
If Fury's not bothered about undisputed then he shouldn't even be negotiating with Usyk. The only reason for him to fight Usyk is to prove who is the true undisputed number 1.
Revenue doesn't win you belts. Fury can sell out all the stadiums in the world, it won't make him undisputed heavyweight world champion. If I'm putting my 3 belts on the line, I want 50% minimum.
Fury already owns all those belts, he’s won them all before, he said he doesn’t need them all twice and not bothered about “undisputed” and that he will throw away the IBF straight away
so it depends how much Usyk is desperate for the final belt ..
Belts don’t sell out stadiums. Give Usyk as many belts as he wants, he isn’t filling a third of Wembley stadium without a huge name opponent.
If Canelo fights Beterbiev, is Beterbiev deserving of getting 50/50 or a bigger split because he has more belts? You know he isn’t. Not when it comes to who drives revenue.
Usyk can have 100 belts, if he doesn’t fight a Fury or AJ level of fighter, those belts aren’t going to get him paid more than a few million.
It’s business, it costs a lot of money to invest in a fight and create an event in a stadium. They feel safe in that investment because they know they can recoup it because it’s been proven by a fighter who brings in big numbers (Fury), not because someone has a few alphabet titles.
Revenue doesn't win you belts. Fury can sell out all the stadiums in the world, it won't make him undisputed heavyweight world champion. If I'm putting my 3 belts on the line, I want 50% minimum.
Fury is the bigger draw but Usyk is bringing more belts so 50/60 is fair. If you want those belts and to become undisputed you gotta pay up.
Belts don’t sell out stadiums. Give Usyk as many belts as he wants, he isn’t filling a third of Wembley stadium without a huge name opponent.
If Canelo fights Beterbiev, is Beterbiev deserving of getting 50/50 or a bigger split because he has more belts? You know he isn’t. Not when it comes to who drives revenue.
Usyk can have 100 belts, if he doesn’t fight a Fury or AJ level of fighter, those belts aren’t going to get him paid more than a few million.
It’s business, it costs a lot of money to invest in a fight and create an event in a stadium. They feel safe in that investment because they know they can recoup it because it’s been proven by a fighter who brings in big numbers (Fury), not because someone has a few alphabet titles.
Just give the man 50% and winner takes a bigger slice of the pie in the rematch.
Winner takes 60% would be good but nobody seems to go for that deal
The truth is Fury is the bigger commercial draw, I fully understand why his team feel they should get more. If I was in business and bringing the majority of the revenue, why would I give half of it away when it’s not justified? It’s not smart business. It’s just annoying for us fans that want to see the fight but it’s not our money.
The other reality is Usyk can take 40% and still make a lot more money than he can elsewhere in the near future. And I think that’s what it’ll come down to. Fury can go make big money fighting AJ, Ngannou, even Joyce and keep the lions share for most of those fights. He doesn’t NEED Usyk for money.
Fury, sold-out Wembley Stadium against Dillian Whyte, so he could do it against Joy Joyce or Ngannou, and probably take 80% of the purse. He knows it too, that’s why he doesn’t need to bend to 50/50.
Usyk’s options to make this kind of money is much more limited. Are they stubborn enough not to accept 40% or so and go fight someone else, taking a bigger percentage that still amounts to much less than what they could’ve had? Who knows, depends on principles. But money usually talks.
outside of Usyk’s team and their principles, if we’re just talking about financial stuff, then fury kind of has them over a barrel in a way, because they need him for this kind of money more than he needs them. So if they want this kind of money, they might have to just swallow their pride and accept a lesser split. I think that’s what will happen in the end.
Could Usyk sell out the biggest attended boxing event in European history v Dillian Whyte? No. I went online for tickets for that Fury v Whyte fight and was about number 220,000 in the queue, so was no chance of getting them. That fight could’ve sold out the stadium 5 times over. Usyk wouldn’t fill half of it, probably not a quarter.
Could Usyk sell 60,000 Tottenham stadium v Chisora? No
Like it or not, Usyk doesn’t bring anywhere near the eyes that Fury does
The only reason Usyk has made good money in his last 2 fights is because of the man in the opposite corner, let’s have it right. The only way Usyk makes 8 figures anytime soon is if Tyson Fury is in the opposite corner. Otherwise he’ll be fighting someone like Hrgovic in a small indoor arena for a couple of million.
That’s just the reality. Usyk is a great fighter, one of my favourites to watch but he doesn’t generate huge money unless there’s someone opposite him bringing most of the viewers
Yes I know , there are many casuals that would watch Fury fighting Chisora 40 times.
Listen, I don`t care about Fury fighting all Chisora`s in the world. Cherry picking game is over. Fury must fight and beat Usyk to prove something.
Yes he does. Actually he deserves 60%. he is coming form a much better win and he made more money in the last fight.
Fury is WBC title holder coming from the third Chisora fight.
Could Usyk sell out the biggest attended boxing event in European history v Dillian Whyte? No. I went online for tickets for that Fury v Whyte fight and was about number 220,000 in the queue, so was no chance of getting them. That fight could’ve sold out the stadium 5 times over. Usyk wouldn’t fill half of it, probably not a quarter.
Could Usyk sell 60,000 Tottenham stadium v Chisora? No
Like it or not, Usyk doesn’t bring anywhere near the eyes that Fury does
The only reason Usyk has made good money in his last 2 fights is because of the man in the opposite corner, let’s have it right. The only way Usyk makes 8 figures anytime soon is if Tyson Fury is in the opposite corner. Otherwise he’ll be fighting someone like Hrgovic in a small indoor arena for a couple of million.
That’s just the reality. Usyk is a great fighter, one of my favourites to watch but he doesn’t generate huge money unless there’s someone opposite him bringing most of the viewers
From a business perspective, absolutely not. Usyk should take 40%, it's still more than he'll earn against anyone else.
Fury planning on pricing himself out.....
Fury vs Whyte 2
Double the buffoonery :boxing:
This is what is killing boxing or has killed it should I say.
I'm a fighting man, its not about money then suddenly it is. Just admit you don't fancy the fight and would rather another pointless rematch with your bff Delboy.