Rahman is literally the worst WC I've ever seen,

Botha stepped into it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaPVd5hNkAc Wilder's offense and power, does not have this type of range, variation or sophistication. Botha did not run into or step into the punch. Wilder has never thrown a punch with this type of sophistication. Wilder has power mate, but at the Top level it has been shown to have a limited effective range. Broadcast his punches, that is why he is easy to out box and take rounds off for Top level fighters. Skill for skill Wilder is not a elite fighter. It is his power, the danger element,extreme game attitude and solid enough Jab at times 'Which makes him a elite threat in today's era of Heavyweights'. I rate Deontay Wilder extremely highly among today's Heavyweights. But I know what type of fighter he is overall, and I am not going to make things up to embellish his abilities.

Charles Martin and Bermane Stiverne come to mind. Rahman was a decent boxer. Won both Tua fights for my money.

Charles Martin was worse. At least Rahman won the title by KO against the lineal champion. Martin only won a vacant belt because Glazkov hurt his leg and couldn't continue. Rahman also won back the WBC title years later when he was already washed. Technically he won an interim belt and was promoted, but he's recognized as a 2X WBC champion. We all know Martin ain't ever getting a sniff of another belt.

Technically skill for skill, Wilder does not have the best Mike Tyson only needed a mere few inches, to generate enough power 'To blast out Francis Botha'. Botha stepped into it.

Technically skill for skill, Wilder does not have the best right hand of all-times. Wilder broadcast's his punches way too much, and his right hand has limited variation. Mike Tyson only needed a mere few inches, to generate enough power 'To blast out Francis Botha'. Wilder's power does not have that type of range. Wilder's power is most effective at long range. If Wilder is forced to throw his right hand at close range, his power is decreased greatly. Wilder landed on Fury, because Fury's defense is overrated. Fury has always produces moments of complete calamity in his fights. Fury for all of his abilities, is for me always on the verge of being decked. Note: Wilder's power is elite in a specific range, and I do rate him extremely highly as a fighter. I like his aggression, and determination 'Wilder also has a underrated Jab'. That is incorrect. Wilder right hand is straight last few years and it's even more powerful when it swings, since that generates more force.

Charles Martin was worse. At least Rahman won the title by KO against the lineal champion. Martin only won a vacant belt because Glazkov hurt his leg and couldn't continue.

Lol John “The Quiet Man” Ruiz comes to mind. Always thought he sucked.

It's funny how McCall and Rahman are both talked about in this thread as bad, yet they accomplished something that no other heavyweight did by knocking out Lennox Lewis. Lennox Lewis would easily destroy today's heavyweight division. The only competitive fight for him would be Tyson Fury, but I'm not sure it would be that hard since Lennox was light years ahead of Deontay Wilder in boxing IQ. Yeah, you're mostly right Don't count out Usyk, though. He could give Lennox a hard fight with his craftiness. .

Wilder has the best right hand of all time, including the set up. Nobody comes even close. And he landed it several times on Fury. ​​​​​​ It's fast, torquey, and insanely powerful Technically skill for skill, Wilder does not have the best right hand of all-times. Wilder broadcast's his punches way too much, and his right hand has limited variation. Mike Tyson only needed a mere few inches, to generate enough power 'To blast out Francis Botha'. Wilder's power does not have that type of range. Wilder's power is most effective at long range. If Wilder is forced to throw his right hand at close range, his power is decreased greatly. Wilder landed on Fury, because Fury's defense is overrated. Fury has always produces moments of complete calamity in his fights. Fury for all of his abilities, is for me always on the verge of being decked. Note: Wilder's power is elite in a specific range, and I do rate him extremely highly as a fighter. I like his aggression, and determination 'Wilder also has a underrated Jab'.

Nelo's achievements and Fury's humor are elite duo. Also, Nelo likes Fury and ranks him at #2.:boxing: https://youtu.be/DBDHO4-6FSM This is when Rod Serlings ghost pops up talking shlt with the Twilight Zone theme playing :omfg:

I can see argument for him being the worst LINEAL champion, but there have been way too many bad champs with the 3/4 belt era. Charles Martin, Siarhei Liakhovich, Lamon Brewster (Who Rahman has a win over) Bruce Seldon, Herbie Hide, Sultan Ibragimov, Corrie Sanders (Who I quite liked. but Rahman beat him too) ​Remember, Charles Martin only won his World Heavyweight Championship when his opponent blew out his knee in the second round. What’s your thoughts on the fact Toney couldn’t beat a past it Rahman in 2 attempts yet you think Toney would “dominate, destroy and knock out” prime AJ and prime Wilder all whilst neither “land a glove on him?” :lol1: :lol1: Care to explain that one?

And James Toney couldn’t beat him in two attempts :lol1:

Bro you're too generous. "Far from mediocre" would be better phrase. :rolleyes: You're soooo unbearable when you're at hating mode. :lol1: How can you be a fan of a professional like Nelo and be a fan of a goofball like Fury ? How can there be a connection ? You should know better :nono:

Wilder has the best right hand of all time, including the set up. Nobody comes even close. And he landed it several times on Fury. ​​​​​​ It's fast, torquey, and insanely powerful I can't say this enough - A guy will look like Superman if he's fighting bums. Fury is far from good but even he has a more boxing brain cells than Wilder. That right hand is so telegraphed and sloppy, one has to ask how the other guy didn't see it coming from last week. Him and Fury would get brutally exposed in most eras.

I'd hold off on calling those I mentioned ''skilled'' I've said as often as I'm allowed to... Today's HWs are the worst sacks of shlt to lace them up (Usyk is good, Wilder is entertaining). However, one era's chump being better than another era's chump is not really a compliment. Wilder has the best right hand of all time, including the set up. Nobody comes even close. And he landed it several times on Fury. ​​​​​​ It's fast, torquey, and insanely powerful

You listed a bunch of skilled HW's that would be favorites vs most of todays heavies including AJ and Wilder. I'd hold off on calling those I mentioned ''skilled'' I've said as often as I'm allowed to... Today's HWs are the worst sacks of shlt to lace them up (Usyk is good, Wilder is entertaining). However, one era's chump being better than another era's chump is not really a compliment.

Rahman earned his belt by knocking out Lennox Lewis. Charles Martin got his belt because his opponent injured his knee during their fight lol. He then quickly sold it to Hearn to gift to the bodybuilder.

Rahman's overall resume isn't that bad. McCall's ''reign'' was even more embarrassing. The 80's were littered with garbage ''champs'' Almost too many to mention. Mike Weaver, Leon Spinks, John Tate, Bonercrusher, Page...... Then there were the Bruce Seldon's, Herbe Hide's and Frank Bruno's of the sport. I guess most divs have one and done chumps. You listed a bunch of skilled HW's that would be favorites vs most of todays heavies including AJ and Wilder.

There are worse HW belt holders than him, but Rahman is definitely one of the worst lineal champs for sure. When he was active it seemed like he was a getting title shot almost every other fight no matter how bad he looked in his previous fight, that made me dislike him even more. Look at the KO highlight I posted above. He doesn't even look good there.

Oliver McCall has one of the greatest chins in history and a hell of a punch. Guy was Tyson's sparring partner for years. Beat Lennox Lewis. He don't belong on this list It's funny how McCall and Rahman are both talked about in this thread as bad, yet they accomplished something that no other heavyweight did by knocking out Lennox Lewis. Lennox Lewis would easily destroy today's heavyweight division. The only competitive fight for him would be Tyson Fury, but I'm not sure it would be that hard since Lennox was light years ahead of Deontay Wilder in boxing IQ.