PBC TV deal in 2023 - Showtime & FOX?

I was rooting for PBC I really was:sad2:

Showtime is likely out by the 3rd quarter I hear

Any update on this? Any bright sign?

pbc is an abatross crushing this sport get a deal or free these fighters so we can have fights again. fuck!

Hate to be pessimistic, but I doubt things will get improved this year in terms of fighters' activity. I'm sure many of them feel their comeback fights were already way overdue. I'm curious as well as to what is in store for fans this year.

Any more remaining fight/s for Fox before saying goodbye? Or that's it for the network and no more fights should be expected?

You haven't heard anything because nothin' has been announced. The FOX dead ended in 2021 - they've just been continuing on when there's a PPV. I imagine that will not change in 2023 unless PBC finds a new outlet. But the field is loaded with players looking for content - Paramount+, Amazon Prime, etc. Will be interesting to see how everything lands. Yeah Amazon is trying to get a standalone sports streaming app. Their NFL content won't be enough to fill it up, so maybe the PBC can get a bid.

I think Amazon or Netflix might pick up a few fights but if so they are not going to pay top dollar. They WOULD pay top dollar if the ratings were good but boxing ratings have sucked for years now. All you have is guys fighting non punchers and all of the fights on the main networks (except, sometimes Pay per view fights) are dull non competitive fights. Network execs want ACTION back and forth fights and you just dont see that on TV anymore. They always choose a sorry ass bum to fight who cant punch harder then a mouse.

Looks like inactive fighters will become even more inactive next year. Many of them are way overdue in going back for their tuneup fights.

People were saying PBC was screwed in like 2015 as well. It was wishful thinking then, its wishful thinking now. People weren't saying that in 2015 bruh, Al had just secured that $600 million dollar Waddell & Reed war chest. Good to be optimistic but the reality is the pool of networks to secure partnerships and funds from has dwindled significantly. ABC,NBC,CBS,FOX(FS1),BOUNCE, SPIKE,TBS,BET?...have all decided the juice wasn't worth the squeeze. Horrible track record to have if you're trying to convince future investors to invest in your company/brand imo. There's PG,PEACOCK and Amazon Prime so there's a glimmer of hope there but I'd be shocked if they're interested in investing in a sport that is as fractured as it is and continually shoots itself in the foot.

People were saying PBC was screwed in like 2015 as well. It was wishful thinking then, its wishful thinking now. They had hundreds of millions in 2015. That money is gone. And the 2022 schedule proved that. No pbc champion fought twice in 2022

Even if Paramount and Amazon Prime Netflix get into boxing I don't think they're going to pay the kind of money that PBC is used to getting from showtime. PBC ain't been getting no money from showtime nobody at pbc is making over 2 million without ppv

Good cause PBC would be up **** creek if they did. AL needs to pull a rabbit out his ass or play ball hell of a lot more with other promoters because Showtimes boxing budget isnt remotely sufficient enough to carry that stable alone. People were saying PBC was screwed in like 2015 as well. It was wishful thinking then, its wishful thinking now.

Negative. Mannix, who works for DAZN and is completely anti-PBC, covered this a while back. Showtime is here to stay. Good cause PBC would be up shit creek if they did. AL needs to pull a rabbit out his ass or play ball hell of a lot more with other promoters because Showtimes boxing budget isnt remotely sufficient enough to carry that stable alone.

waiting game for the FOX Option to end before announcing the next move I'm sure:rolleyes:

all signs point to PG eliminating the Showtime network cable channel completely. Negative. Mannix, who works for DAZN and is completely anti-PBC, covered this a while back. Showtime is here to stay.

You haven't heard anything because nothin' has been announced. The FOX dead ended in 2021 - they've just been continuing on when there's a PPV. I imagine that will not change in 2023 unless PBC finds a new outlet. But the field is loaded with players looking for content - Paramount+, Amazon Prime, etc. Will be interesting to see how everything lands. FOX wasnt hosting PBC ppvs because it wanted to "just continue" lol. FOX did so because it extended its partnership with PBC in Oct/2021 for another year which puts Wilders vs Helenius ppv card as the last of that deal. With FOX covering all expenses concerning the ppv broadcast,what incentive is there to continue any involvement in PBC PPV when Al continuously fed them shitty matchups such as Ruiz vs Ortiz and Wilder vs Helenius that generated abysmal buys? Paramount Global,did merge P+ and Showtime but all signs point to PG eliminating the Showtime network cable channel completely. Whether P+ swallows up the much smaller service in Showtime,relegating it to tile in thier app or even just continuing to invest in boxing at all remains to be seen.

I think paramount and showtime ​ They're not. They're owned by the same company so the staff was consolidated, which already happened. If you have two separate revenue streams, you don't just throw one of them away. Even if Paramount and Amazon Prime Netflix get into boxing I don't think they're going to pay the kind of money that PBC is used to getting from showtime. Showtime's boxing budget is somewhere in the range $50 million a year. That is absolute peanuts for sports content. Disney just shelled out $100mil for Formula 1. Check this article and look at what they're spending: https://www.sportico.com/feature/dis...27-1234697032/ Boxing is cheap content. I'm sure PBC can find the right deal to cover their stable.

No one is getting into boxing. Fox and Dazn both flopped

I think paramount and showtime are merging so I'm not sure what their investment in boxing is gonna b after that. Hopefully they invest more and we get more non ppv fights.