Why is losing once so horrible in the sport of boxing?

Nowadays being offered opportunity to take real legit fights don't even have value like being given opportunity to have a job interview. They have to demand retirement money before taking such fights as if winning never crossed their minds.

It's still the root cause of most of the negative things happening in boxing. It's the main reason why most of them now fight once a year. How are you even able to fulfill mandatory obligations fighting once a year? It's so silly?

I don't think it's just records. A lot of boxers today come from middle class families.. Boxers back the used to come from abject poverty. A lot of Boxers today aren't natural fighters. They box because of the lifestyle and the reward. Before it used to be to get you out of poverty

it isn't. you're putting too much emphasis on the opinions of casual fans who DKSAB who neckbeard all day on message boards look at the posters on NSB who talk the most ****, and look at their posts per day, it's insane. Nah. It's not the casuals. It's the hardcore fans themselves. You'll hear things from so-called real fans say: "He too young doe. He not ready yet doe. Fight needs to be marinated first doe. He getting lowballed doe, making the opportunity or shot totally with zero value; thus retirement check is essential totally disregarding the fact that winning comes with more money and potential. Stop fooling yourself it's the casuals.

But seriously every boxer wants to be undefeated and will do anything to stay undefeated and the main reason why every undefeated fighter now only pick opponents they think they can easily beat.

we are in era of boxers who are scared to lose the 0 and just cherry pick his opponent to remain undefeated.

Isn't this the root cause of all the negative things that are happening in this sport? You have guys like Stevenson and De Los Santos terrified of making any move in their fight to engage and would rather get booed. They can't even use the high guard to open up each other. They're terrified of losing.

I can't think of any sport that depicts this strange malady. Fighters in other contact sport like MMA/UFC can fight multiple times regardless of loses. In basketball, one on one tennis, baseball, football, you name it, no such thing as this silliness in boxing. it isn't. you're putting too much emphasis on the opinions of casual fans who DKSAB who neckbeard all day on message boards look at the posters on NSB who talk the most shit, and look at their posts per day, it's insane.

There are so many boxers and so few high paying TV dates. If you're not a giant star or a world champion, your value to a TV network is essentially zero. If you lose, there are a hundred other guys who haven't gotten their opportunity that want your spot. In MMA, where the general public only cares about one particular league (UFC), the league has an incentive to recycle their guys after losses rather than having to build someone new. In boxing, where you have dozens of promoters trying to get their guy an opportunity, when your guy loses, there are 15 other guys with 15 different promoters all saying it should be their turn next. Which is why I never understood this network fanboyism. One network can't accommodate all these existing fighters and give them dates. The money is simply not there.

It is not so bad to lose a fight. As a matter of fact, you probably learned more in your losing effort than you ever did in many of your wins..................Rockin':boxing: Bottom line is, there's no guarantee every fight you take will always be a win. Even then losing is really not that bad.

Vergil Ortiz vs Terence Crawford would have been a hell of a fight back then. There's also Ortiz vs Ennis. What else? It's a horrible sport where losing is the end of one's career, instead of being taken as learning experience or momentary derailment. Fans are missing a lot because of it. Those fights were very possible back then, but now it's almost a certainty they're never going back.

There are so many boxers and so few high paying TV dates. If you're not a giant star or a world champion, your value to a TV network is essentially zero. If you lose, there are a hundred other guys who haven't gotten their opportunity that want your spot. In MMA, where the general public only cares about one particular league (UFC), the league has an incentive to recycle their guys after losses rather than having to build someone new. In boxing, where you have dozens of promoters trying to get their guy an opportunity, when your guy loses, there are 15 other guys with 15 different promoters all saying it should be their turn next. This, with no central control, boxing match ups and payout are basically a popularity contest. Youtubers quickly realized this and it makes sense their entire job has been a popularity contest and love them or hate them they became masters at getting the public's attention. You can see why Dana White wont let youtubers fight his guys, even if he would make a lot of money off a given fight, it will make a mockery of his brand and hurt them in the long run, so he freezes them out. Pro boxing there is no real restrictions on entering the market as long as you have the money and fame to do it. ABC organizations with their rankings supposedly objective ratings and decisions would be the solution to this but they are inheriently biased. Their number 1 problem is taking their cut as a percentage of the purse instead of flat rate. Now they are incentivized to have the most popular aka highest selling fighters installed as champions and that is why we see them basically make up the rules as they go along. Making up belts like the diamond belt or whatever, jumping in and protecting Canelo by saying Bivol cant fight for canelo's WBC belt at 168, essentially making it impossible for Bivol to be undisputed at that division. Giving Tim Tszyu a belt instead of making him fight the 2nd in line guy for it ect.

Vergil Ortiz vs Terence Crawford would have been a hell of a fight back then. There's also Ortiz vs Ennis. What else? It's a horrible sport where losing is the end of one's career, instead of being taken as learning experience or momentary derailment.

losing is so horrible because if u lose u are a loser and if u win u are a winner

Too many fights are not getting made early because of this horrible disease in boxing where losing is not taken as anything but horrible. Then when the fight do comes tons of excuses are made because one fighter is no longer in his proper element. Even now certain fighters are still hesitant to step it up big because of the fear of losing.

They dont fight enough, Too much crying on twitter and excuses when they do lose Bottom line is they don't see losing as a learning experience and a step to bounce back stronger.

They dont fight enough, Too much crying on twitter and excuses when they do lose

Everything boils down to it. People talk about how the sport is so messed up exactly because boxers are terrified of losing. Exactly the same reason why they'd rather fight once a year. Being more active means you have more chances of losing. Same reason why they can't even take tuneup fights and would rather wait for their turn in the lottery. Losing a step is terrifying enough, let alone lose. Of course, everyone will take a fight offering retirement money. Nothing brave about it.

In my case I have stopped following any particular fighter/s. It just doesn't make any sense anymore. I made an example of Edwin De Los Santos a while ago (among many) and he's supposed to be a showcase fight for Jose Valenzuela, and Edwin accepted the fight as a last minute replacement. That was in September of last year and he'll be fighting at the end of July this year. If that is how much time it takes to see such fighter again, who would be interested in following any one of them anymore? And you can imagine if he lost that fight. You'll most likely never see him again for the next 2 years. That's how bad it is to lose one fight in this sport.

Some fighters lose without even losing officially also, and this enrages fans. Fans feel like some fighters are highly ranked or gain important accolades under false pretenses, their “great” careers look fraudulent. Undeserved wins is what most fans care about. Some fans for sure hate on a fighter who loses by KO, but some of those fighters are hated already because they escaped what fans believe was a prior loss. Some of my favorite fighters that received this sort of hate, Mayweather-Castillo I, Canelo-GGG I, Wilder-Fury I. That’s where MOST of the hate comes from. But there is also undeserved hate for fighters even before they unofficially lose. It could also be a personality thing. For example, a fighter who acts humble and says all the right things, but has 5 losses, can be more liked than a more successful but brash fighter. This successful and brash fighter losing for the first time can make some fans happy and lead to all types of accusations and hate towards that fighter.