Barely anyone mentioned his poor defense, and poor chin? Been down about 3-4 time, eats clean telegraphed punches, even zombie Chisora was catching him good. He is also a very big target and hittable to the body and pretty slow feet plus tends to fight very sloppy. He might look good this era but he is nothing amazing at all.
Honestly, he's not gonna lose to Usyk or Joyce, sorry. He's not losing to anyone for a long time.
There's a couple young guns moving up the rankings that could cause Fury some problems in maybe 3 or 4 years.
A semi prime fighter who knows how to box.
That's a rarity in the toilet bowl of an era.
Size alone is what makes him a winner.
I post up his youtube ''highlight'' vids (created by Fury fans) and Fury fans hate it :lol1:
That's what I was thinking . If someone can take it to that fat gut and slow him down. They might have a chance in the latter rounds to punish him and put him away but then again some fighters take body shots very well.
Fury like that fat guy on super punch out who eat body shots all day....i mean someone has to hurt him there eventually he gives up the body vs the best punchers in the world with zero fukks dont even try lmao
Look like your huge a$$ is in pain.
When he punches he leaves himself open and his feet cross in the middle of combinations
He just hasn't fought a good counter puncher
wilder a forward attacking one punch bomb(not a counter puncher)
Wladimir never really a good counter puncher his main offense was mainly sneaky offensive jab right hands and left hooks all initiating punches
chisora come forward attacker
Whyte was just whyte
If Fury fought the luis ortiz wilder fought he would have most likely been in the hardest fight of his career
joshua is a decent counter pucher too no wonder he wanted no part
Can't really think of any other good counter punchers at heavyweight right now but let's just say if he fought a good past elite heavyweight counter puncher he'd have no chance
Hes so clumsy and easy to read for a sniper counter
Tyson would have polaxed fury in 2 rounds
I like Fury, but let`s get real.
Ali, Holyfield, Lennox Lewis..al these guys were tested many times on elite level, that is why we found out all there weaknesses.
Fury looks unbeatable because Klitschko was the only elite fighter he has ever fought. It is not a great era and even in this era his last fight was Chisora?
Fury should be tested more on higher level ( in today`s terms). let him fight Usyk, Joyce, Joshua, Sanchez, than we can talk.
He jab causes damage like jabs in UFC with the tiny gloves
I am sure it is different when you're ringside and can hear the shots but on tele it looks wild. You are thinking that has nothing on it. Fast forward a few rounds of JJ landing consistently and his opponent is f.uckin walking towards the light.
Dubois isn't great tbh. But what always surprises me with Joyce is seemingly that he just does seem to land on everyone and just incur ridiculous amounts of damage.
Of course Fury is different but dancing around Joyce for 36 mins seems a long time.
Usyk I don't know. I don't know how he beats Fury unless he is actually in there doing it and winning, lol.
He jab causes damage like jabs in UFC with the tiny gloves
Fury weakness compared to other ATGs is longevity andvresume. Best usyk, joyce and Josh and that plugs the holes.
People won't talk abou5 weakness when his resume is strong. Ali couldn't fight inside or body punch, but that's not talking point
Joyce has fast feet, people don’t realise it because his hands are quite slow, but he can get into range fast and land. To beat him, You need to have excellent judgement of distance, so you don’t get caught out and let him get into range because he’s deceptively good with his feet.
Fury often used Joyce as a sparring partner and seems to be confident about that fight, so maybe Fury knows something like the above. Nobody really judges distance better than fury in the heavyweight division, especially when he has the longest reach to go along with it. I think that’s necessary against Joyce if you’re a fairly big man. Although I could see Usyk giving him problems with agility like Jennings did. Sometimes these small fighters are hard to pin down. Jennings would probably give Joyce some problems too
Also, we haven’t seen Joyce in with a decent fighter his own size, never mind as big as Fury. Fury is excellent at getting into a clinch and wrapping fighters up because his arms are long. He would outbox Joyce from range and just wrap him when he got close. He has a 5” reach advantage over Joyce. And seeing as Fury is the best in the division at judging distance and using reach, he’ll make it count.
I’m still curious about how Joyce will do when he faces a top fighter who has an elite mentality. I’m a fan of Joe Joyce, and I think he would be a nightmare for someone like Joshua who doesn’t seem to be the mentally strongest fighter anymore. But when you look at his biggest wins which are Dubois and Parker, well
DD just nearly got stopped by a South African cruiserweight and took the knee twice, so i’m not sure on his level. Parker’s last three fights before Joyce was 2 with Chisora, one which most thought he lost which is why the rematch got made… and then one with Junior Fa which was very close fight and Fa got knocked out by old Lucas Brown in one round in the next fight.
i think from fighting Dubois and this Joseph Parker to
fighting Usyk and Fury is such a huge leap at this point in time. I wonder if Joyce could bridge that gap, but I’d love to see him get that chance to.
Didn't realize the sparring partner part, just couldn't figure out why Fury wants to fight him so bad but blows off Usyk, get it now.
Sanchez would be the second best fighter Fury has ever fought, to be honest. he is much better than the bum Wilder.
Wilder would knock old man sanchez clean out.
He doesn't move nor block body shots a long fighter with a good body work, will eventually hurt him to the body and break him down....even the body jabs and straights a wild sloppy wilder was able to control distance with his body work early fight 3...
That's what I was thinking . If someone can take it to that fat gut and slow him down. They might have a chance in the latter rounds to punish him and put him away but then again some fighters take body shots very well.
Looks a little clumsy sometimes with his feet and punches. He's also not as compact on the inside as someone like an AJ. Fury will throw wide shots where AJ will throw shorter, faster combinations
Also, Fury did get hit quite a bit against Wilder in their 3rd fight, so not he can't be touched.
Sanchez is another 45 yr old Cuban claiming 30 years old. Difficulty in the 1st 6 rounds and Fury runs away with the fight. Still think Hill will have Fury keep the Ukraine dosser at the end of a stick for 12 rounds. Then people will cry the fight was boring even though the Ukraine dosser has ZERO stoppages in the heavyweight but everyone else has to have stoppages. Make sense of that. 100% sure Hill has him turn the Ox Joyce for 12 rounds and beat him up, so slow with his hands not feet he has to set before he throws. As noted nothing wrong with Fury's hand speed vs the division.
Lol fair enough.
Usyk is smart though. He will counteract what Fury is trying to do. He will have to Slip and counter all night. I know in my heart of hearts Fury will win a 7-5, 8-4 fight. Unless there is some Ukraine flavour of the month bullshit.
I might bet the draw tbh
i think from fighting Dubois and this Joseph Parker to
fighting Usyk and Fury is such a huge leap at this point in time. I wonder if Joyce could bridge that gap, but I’d love to see him get that chance to.
I also think that from fighting Wilder, Whyte and Chisora to fighting Usyk and Joyce is a huge gap as well.
Funny, people think Fury has no weakness based on beating Wilder, Whyte and Chisora.
I am telling you again, Joyce tests him pretty hard.
At the end of the day, they all lose in heavyweight division. It is pretty much impossible to stay unbeaten if you fight top contenders for many years.
It is possible only if you are Rocky Marciano in another poor era.
Exactly this.
I just don't rate Wilder. He was made for Fury. That's why Fury was happy to fight him straight out of rehab.
If he's completely flawless then I'd like to see him against a guy who moves well. I actually think his footwork is average - very good for a man of his size, but average.
I completely understand his attributes, but until they're tested they're not proven beyond doubt. Calling him flawless is just guesswork.
Dubois isn't great tbh. But what always surprises me with Joyce is seemingly that he just does seem to land on everyone and just incur ridiculous amounts of damage.
Of course Fury is different but dancing around Joyce for 36 mins seems a long time.
Usyk I don't know. I don't know how he beats Fury unless he is actually in there doing it and winning, lol.
Joyce has fast feet, people don’t realise it because his hands are quite slow, but he can get into range fast and land. To beat him, You need to have excellent judgement of distance, so you don’t get caught out and let him get into range because he’s deceptively good with his feet.
Fury often used Joyce as a sparring partner and seems to be confident about that fight, so maybe Fury knows something like the above. Nobody really judges distance better than fury in the heavyweight division, especially when he has the longest reach to go along with it. I think that’s necessary against Joyce if you’re a fairly big man. Although I could see Usyk giving him problems with agility like Jennings did. Sometimes these small fighters are hard to pin down. Jennings would probably give Joyce some problems too
Also, we haven’t seen Joyce in with a decent fighter his own size, never mind as big as Fury. Fury is excellent at getting into a clinch and wrapping fighters up because his arms are long. He would outbox Joyce from range and just wrap him when he got close. He has a 5” reach advantage over Joyce. And seeing as Fury is the best in the division at judging distance and using reach, he’ll make it count.
I’m still curious about how Joyce will do when he faces a top fighter who has an elite mentality. I’m a fan of Joe Joyce, and I think he would be a nightmare for someone like Joshua who doesn’t seem to be the mentally strongest fighter anymore. But when you look at his biggest wins which are Dubois and Parker, well
DD just nearly got stopped by a South African cruiserweight and took the knee twice, so i’m not sure on his level. Parker’s last three fights before Joyce was 2 with Chisora, one which most thought he lost which is why the rematch got made… and then one with Junior Fa which was very close fight and Fa got knocked out by old Lucas Brown in one round in the next fight.
i think from fighting Dubois and this Joseph Parker to
fighting Usyk and Fury is such a huge leap at this point in time. I wonder if Joyce could bridge that gap, but I’d love to see him get that chance to.