Juan Francisco &quot;El Gallo&quot; Estrada, appreciaton thread.

Man, but Is crazy that this fight WAS NOT TELEVISED in México. This fight WAS TELEVISED in Nicaragua, For free. I think Estrada has enought big wins AND a More complete career than most mexican fighters. Look, most of your list had good wins but they has some lost , For example Barrera vs the poison. Estrada career Is amazing because he avenged ALL HIS LOST. Hi faced ALL the big dogs For years in 112-115 and right now His récord Is great AND avenged His lost in a great fashion The point Is: His career Is too solid. Compare the career of Ggg or Crawford with Estrada resume.. I don't think it is fair that those professional boxer's losses should diminish their triumphs, if Estrada were to retire today he still have a HOF ballot, I speak for myself but still not sure if has done enough to be a top 10 which such a deep list. If he were to beat let's say more contenders like Ioka, Tanaka, Martinez and etc. then I think he has a solid argument to even be in the top 5.

3y ago

Quite debatable since he has great quality wins but not sufficient, but his career is not over yet. I honestly thought he won in the first bout against Rungvisai. Wouldn't tear other fighters down to make Estrada look good, but he deserves a spot in the P4P. If the fight is not getting streamed during Saturday, networks such as Tv Azteca uploads the fight weeks later for free in media platforms. However, since they don't promote the fight and getting internet is an issue through the country, it doesn't get the recognition it deserves compared to live streaming in tv channels which makes it are easier to look at. Man, but Is crazy that this fight WAS NOT TELEVISED in México. This fight WAS TELEVISED in Nicaragua, For free. I think Estrada has enought big wins AND a More complete career than most mexican fighters. Look, most of your list had good wins but they has some lost , For example Barrera vs the poison. Estrada career Is amazing because he avenged ALL HIS LOST. Hi faced ALL the big dogs For years in 112-115 and right now His récord Is great AND avenged His lost in a great fashion The point Is: His career Is too solid. Compare the career of Ggg or Crawford with Estrada resume..

3y ago

https://mobile.twitter.com/Matchroom...62086978101248 This Is what Lomachenko do against tomato cans AND all the white and english media are crazy overreacting

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El_Ms_Loco

Estrada vs Martinez for an all Mexican shootout would be epic. Rey vale pito.

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El_Ms_Loco

He isn't popular is our country but among those who do know him he is highly respected. His much deserved respect will come in time. Remember, the first Morales vs Barrera wasn't even on PPV in the USA.....then Top Rank and everyone else saw their true talent. Plus I don't even care what others think....Thee past few years 115 pounders have had a golden generation. Gallo, Chocolatito, and Cuadras were must watch tv and anyone who missed it i feel sorry for.

3y ago

I agree but didn't Bam move back down in weight?

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Hustle

Gallo Estrada vs Bam Rodriquez is the fight to make at 115

3y ago

Yeah Is debatible but he Is in the mix and thats not Easy. I started to watch Juan in the reality of campeón Azteca, He had a great rivalry against Juan Carlos Zurdito Sánchez he avenged His first lost knocked out Sánchez. Sánchez was a former champ in 115, IFB champion Estrada has a great talent He has crazy stamina can throw More of 1000 punches AND he Is a slick fighter too, he like to move around the ring. Sad he lost his power after that surgery in 2016. He Is better than most of overhyped Champions like Lomachenko, Golovkin, Fury, Taylor. Shame we in México nobody know who Is he Do you know this? This fight WAS NOT TELEVISED IN THE MEXICAN TV HAHAHA Quite debatable since he has great quality wins but not sufficient, but his career is not over yet. I honestly thought he won in the first bout against Rungvisai. Wouldn't tear other fighters down to make Estrada look good, but he deserves a spot in the P4P. If the fight is not getting streamed during Saturday, networks such as Tv Azteca uploads the fight weeks later for free in media platforms. However, since they don't promote the fight and getting internet is an issue through the country, it doesn't get the recognition it deserves compared to live streaming in tv channels which makes it are easier to look at.

3y ago

The first fight I ever seen Estrada was his bout against Hernan Marquez. Followed his career with the intense fights with Rungvisai, Cuadras and Chocolatito. For me I am unsure if he has reached the list, at least yet since he is still 32 years old and has time. there is fighters like: Rodolfo Casanova- Kid Azteca, Baby Arizmendi, Juan Zurita and Freddie Miller. Julio Cesar Chavez Sr- Rafael Limon, Lockridge, Castillo, Ramirez, Hector Camacho, Edwin Rosario, Tony Lopez, Greg Haugen and Meldrick Taylor. Juan Manuel Marquez- Marco Antonio Barrera, Joel Casamayor, and Manny Pacquiao Salvador Sanchez- Laporte, Danny Lopez, Wilfredo Gomez and Azumah Nelson. Vicente Saldivar- Ismael Laguna, Sugar Ramos, Howard Winstone and Jose Legra. Alberto Arizmandi- Tony Canzoneri, Chalky Wright, Lou Ambers, Sammy Angott and Freddie Miller Erik Morales- Manny Pacquiao, Barrera, Junior Jones, Zaragoza, and Paulie Ayala. Saul Alvarez- Cotto, Mosley, Trout, Lara, Kirkland, Khan, Smith, Kovalev, Saunders, Plant and GGG X2. Ruben Olivares- Jose Medel, Takao Sakurai, Lionel Rose, Chucho Castillo, Bobby Chacon and Ramirez. Mind you I just listed their most recognizable wins and there are probably better options like Barrera, Lopez, Zarate, Canto, Pintor and etc. Yeah Is debatible but he Is in the mix and thats not Easy. I started to watch Juan in the reality of campeón Azteca, He had a great rivalry against Juan Carlos Zurdito Sánchez he avenged His first lost knocked out Sánchez. Sánchez was a former champ in 115, IFB champion Estrada has a great talent He has crazy stamina can throw More of 1000 punches AND he Is a slick fighter too, he like to move around the ring. Sad he lost his power after that surgery in 2016. He Is better than most of overhyped Champions like Lomachenko, Golovkin, Fury, Taylor. Shame we in México nobody know who Is he Do you know this? This fight WAS NOT TELEVISED IN THE MEXICAN TV HAHAHA

3y ago

Man, the Viloria win was memorable too, It was a very good win. Estrada was not the favorite, Viloria was wbo and wba champion. And the less power Is due a very bad injury in his right hand, like 7 years ago. He needed a surgery, before that surgery he has a very good power in both hands He stopped Segura and was the first to drop Giovani. For me he Is top-10 in mexican ranking The first fight I ever seen Estrada was his bout against Hernan Marquez. Followed his career with the intense fights with Rungvisai, Cuadras and Chocolatito. For me I am unsure if he has reached the list, at least yet since he is still 32 years old and has time. there is fighters like: Rodolfo Casanova- Kid Azteca, Baby Arizmendi, Juan Zurita and Freddie Miller. Julio Cesar Chavez Sr- Rafael Limon, Lockridge, Castillo, Ramirez, Hector Camacho, Edwin Rosario, Tony Lopez, Greg Haugen and Meldrick Taylor. Juan Manuel Marquez- Marco Antonio Barrera, Joel Casamayor, and Manny Pacquiao Salvador Sanchez- Laporte, Danny Lopez, Wilfredo Gomez and Azumah Nelson. Vicente Saldivar- Ismael Laguna, Sugar Ramos, Howard Winstone and Jose Legra. Alberto Arizmandi- Tony Canzoneri, Chalky Wright, Lou Ambers, Sammy Angott and Freddie Miller Erik Morales- Manny Pacquiao, Barrera, Junior Jones, Zaragoza, and Paulie Ayala. Saul Alvarez- Cotto, Mosley, Trout, Lara, Kirkland, Khan, Smith, Kovalev, Saunders, Plant and GGG X2. Ruben Olivares- Jose Medel, Takao Sakurai, Lionel Rose, Chucho Castillo, Bobby Chacon and Ramirez. Mind you I just listed their most recognizable wins and there are probably better options like Barrera, Lopez, Zarate, Canto, Pintor and etc.

3y ago

It would be good money low risk For Estrada I like it Yup Rey hasnt looked his best recently but he's a warrior he'll come to fight thats for sure.

3y ago

Estrada vs Martinez for an all Mexican shootout would be epic. It would be good money low risk For Estrada I like it

3y ago

Estrada vs Martinez for an all Mexican shootout would be epic.

3y ago

Golovkin is an idol in his country just because he beat a lot of bums. Lomachenko Is an idol in his country and His Best win Is Gary Russell Jr. Estrada Is very underrated

3y ago

Segura was tough as nails too And Estrada destroyed him Segura was the #1 rated in wbo and had a very good run, he destroyed Jonathan La Bomba Gonzalez in Puerto Rico, actually he Is a champion of the world in 108.

3y ago

Mammoth

A hall of famer for sure. He came out on top of the round Robin between him, Chocolatito, Cuadras and Rungvisai.

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Deserves HOF status by beating Cuadras X2, Rungvisai and Chocolatito X2 avenging all his competitive losses. Reminds me of JMM except he is more technically skilled and has less power behind his shots. Could become one of the top 10 best Mexican boxers in history if he wins against world champions like Ioka, Franco and Martinez. Also yes, Mexico doesn't really know him like they did with Ricardo Lopez at the time when JCC was fighting. Which is too bad considering 2022 has been a harsh year for Mexico's boxing and lack of upcoming talent if you exclude Zepeda, Cruz and Lara. Man, the Viloria win was memorable too, It was a very good win. Estrada was not the favorite, Viloria was wbo and wba champion. And the less power Is due a very bad injury in his right hand, like 7 years ago. He needed a surgery, before that surgery he has a very good power in both hands He stopped Segura and was the first to drop Giovani. For me he Is top-10 in mexican ranking

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