Never A Fan Of Floyd, But…

He could have half trained and beat: Berto Madonna 2x Guerrero Ortiz Lightweight Marquez 38 year old Shane Raked through the coals Cotto and Manny He can say he is tbe, but nobody in their right mind is gonna put him no higher than top 25 all time because they understand the level of cherry-picking he was doing - - Without Bayliss to protect l'l floydy, he got BTFU stem to stern, pillar to post by Utuber Logan Paul. More embarrassing than Vander showing up vs Belfort. At least Belfort was a fighter!

He could have half trained and beat: Berto Madonna 2x Guerrero Ortiz Lightweight Marquez 38 year old Shane Raked through the coals Cotto and Manny He can say he is tbe, but nobody in their right mind is gonna put him no higher than top 25 all time because they understand the level of cherry-picking he was doing The TBE tag is basically a marketing idea. Floyd may indeed believe it, but few hardcore fans agree. I don’t really care. As for half-training to beat the men you mentioned: I think it’s not only mistaken to say, but disrespectful to both Mayweather and his opponents. Anyone fighting on their level requires serious preparation. And I have zero doubts Floyd wasn’t about to give anyone the slightest chance to beat him — no matter what he actually thought of them as fighters.

Maybe I didn't make myself clear. I'm aware that Floyd was careful in choosing opponents later in his boxing life. Like I said, the fans may not have liked it, but I totally understand. I think he avoided Manny for five years, until he felt Pacquiao lost a step. But to say he chose opponents he could've half trained for is not only an exaggeration, it's also irrelevant. Mayweather was insanely committed to his training, his craft. That's the only point I'm trying to make. I don't believe for a second he slacked on anyone.​ He could have half trained and beat: Berto Madonna 2x Guerrero Ortiz Lightweight Marquez 38 year old Shane Raked through the coals Cotto and Manny He can say he is tbe, but nobody in their right mind is gonna put him no higher than top 25 all time because they understand the level of cherry-picking he was doing

Yeah but what you missed is when he got to the point where he was cherrypicking, he was fighting guys who couldn't beat him even if he half trained, so what makes overtraining like that so special. Maybe I didn't make myself clear. I'm aware that Floyd was careful in choosing opponents later in his boxing life. Like I said, the fans may not have liked it, but I totally understand. I think he avoided Manny for five years, until he felt Pacquiao lost a step. But to say he chose opponents he could've half trained for is not only an exaggeration, it's also irrelevant. Mayweather was insanely committed to his training, his craft. That's the only point I'm trying to make. I don't believe for a second he slacked on anyone.​

Yeah but what you missed is when he got to the point where he was cherrypicking, he was fighting guys who couldn't beat him even if he half trained, so what makes overtraining like that so special. Maybe I didn’t make myself clear. I’m aware that Floyd was careful in choosing opponents later in his boxing life. Like I said, the fans may not have liked it, but I totally understand. I think he avoided Manny for five years, until he felt Pacquiao lost a step. But to say he chose opponents he could’ve half trained for is not only an exaggeration, it’s also irrelevant. Mayweather was insanely committed to his training, his craft. That’s the only point I’m trying to make. I don’t believe for a second he slacked on anyone.

Floyd Alvarez was a special performance. “TBE”’s powers on full display The top $ May showing is debatable. Floyd used two very different styles in Hatton and Marquez Lol with Marquez he used the "lets welch this lightweight cherrypick on the scales and watch him be stuck in the mud", but we know you overpedestalize mediocrity

True, I wonder why floyd trained harder than everyone but didn't take more risks than anyone? Also I wish flo yd filmed one of his training sessions because I want to see for myself if he trained as hard as me, or his peers Its obvious the guy just wanted to pad his record with easy fights. Guerrero, Ortiz, Madonna 2x, Berto, McGregor. Path of least resistance all the way

Floyd was more aggressive earlier in his career. When the money really started rolling in, he took on a more defensive posture. Maybe the fans didn’t appreciate it, but it’s totally understandable. Easy to complain when you’re not in his position. Outside the available footage, and first hand accounts, it’s pretty easy to see that Mayweather trained extremely hard. I don’t recall ever seeing him appreciably tired in the ring. That takes a lot of endurance work. And the finely-honed skills require mounds of repetition. There should be no doubt Floyd worked very diligently. Yeah but what you missed is when he got to the point where he was cherrypicking, he was fighting guys who couldn't beat him even if he half trained, so what makes overtraining like that so special.

True, I wonder why floyd trained harder than everyone but didn't take more risks than anyone? Also I wish flo yd filmed one of his training sessions because I want to see for myself if he trained as hard as me, or his peers Floyd was more aggressive earlier in his career. When the money really started rolling in, he took on a more defensive posture. Maybe the fans didn’t appreciate it, but it’s totally understandable. Easy to complain when you’re not in his position. Outside the available footage, and first hand accounts, it’s pretty easy to see that Mayweather trained extremely hard. I don’t recall ever seeing him appreciably tired in the ring. That takes a lot of endurance work. And the finely-honed skills require mounds of repetition. There should be no doubt Floyd worked very diligently.

Nah he was cool with barely outpointing fighters who were already raked thru the coals, and calling himself the best ever. What you asking for is to take risk and Floyd not built like that. 30% risk or less is standard operating procedure. Amir Khan took bigger risks than Floyd True, I wonder why floyd trained harder than everyone but didn't take more risks than anyone? Also I wish flo yd filmed one of his training sessions because I want to see for myself if he trained as hard as me, or his peers

I have to give my respect to Floyd, yes he did duck a few, but he gave us much insight with his training and mindset and showing what it takes to be a champion. Nobody is immune to criticism — absolutely no one. Even for the most beloved people, you will always find haters. As I said in my opening post, I was never a fan of Mayweather. Frankly, I’m still not. But his unrelenting drive and commitment to excellence is inspiring and motivational. I watch a lot of these sort of videos on YouTube. Many speakers inspire and motivate, but it’s something else to see it in action. It really brings it home.

Why would I show you anything on a personal level I know Jeff Fenech personally and he was a beast in the gym Because official dudes back up what they say without hesitation when anybody calls em out on their bulls'hit. So since you went straight to hemming and hawing and doing what you do best, make up far flung excuses, its safe to say your credibility is in the toilet

I have to give my respect to Floyd, yes he did duck a few, but he gave us much insight with his training and mindset and showing what it takes to be a champion.

Floyd also paid usada out of his own pocket to cover up his positive ped tests.

I know Jeff Fenech personally and he was a beast in the gym Lets go Roadblock. Back up this claim right here right now with pictures. Why would I show you anything on a personal level lol, where is the pic of you and any girl youre avoiding that like the plague lol

I was impressed with him up to and including 135, he moved very fluidly and it was good to watch. Beyond that, there were too many passive performances to minimise risk. His body of course, but it wasn't the stuff of greatness to me. he was on top for 18 years straight. he retired at 38 as p4p number 1, lineal unified welterweight champ and defeated p4p number 2 that year erasing all doubts. he was the best boxer on the planet at 38 years old , what else do you guys want

Those who never step inside a boxing ring will never truly appreciate his greatness. He made boxing look easy from the outside looking in, being able to anticipate/bait/react/counter in split-seconds in the ring is something only a few can master, and he happened to be the very best at those things from his era.

I was watching a few videos dedicated to Mayweather on YouTube yesterday — some about his training, some about his fights — and I came away with a new appreciation. It stands to reason that anyone at the top of their game works like an animal, but it’s another thing to see it broken down. Floyd worked extremely hard, possibly harder than any of his contemporaries. Inspirational, really. Hard to hate on a guy that earned every bit of his success. - - Y I hate on l'l floydy when he and his crack family provide so much fun for us sorta like the Simpsons. Yeah, it hard work to run and stink out every fight he ever had save Cotto who beat him up, but not as badly as Maidana did.

Fluid is 10% talent, 90% dedication. Zab Judah was clearly more talented fighter. Lies. Zab was naturally a better athlete in terms of pure athleticism, but overall, Floyd was always a greater and more skilled boxer.

I know Jeff Fenech personally and he was a beast in the gym Lets go Roadblock. Back up this claim right here right now with pictures.