Ramirez was even worse than I thought

Did he or Bivol was given instructions not to stop Canelo? He literally when ultra-aggressive from a high guard against a bigger, stronger man but sit back on box with Canelo when Canelo's punches didn't really affect him? He's like Crawford carrying Porter until his corner got the memo, stop BSing around! Bivol respects Canelo' counter punching and didn't want to give him opportunities. Zurdo doesn't have that Nelo skill so Bivol could be more aggressive. Bivol is more versatile than many think. He showed his level tonight. Great win vs a 44-0 fighter. Bivol will imo he a solid fave vs Beter

I only saw his last 3 fights and thought he looked like garbage, very basic and slow with no defense. The Bivol fight went as I predicted although I did expect Zurdo to at least have more heart and fight mexican style instead he was intimidated and fought timid. He is just a can crusher. I mean I saw the same things. But in general, the eye test is used too much. The fights have to just happen and that will always be the best way to see who the best is.

LOL, “Bivol won’t get any credit for beating Ramirez” “people will say he belongs at crusierweight “ “Ramirez isn’t as good as I thought” what made you think Ramirez had any chance in the first place besides being big...

Never a good sign when Top Rank drop an undefeated, big, good looking Mexican fighter. Usually means he isn't that good.

This is what happens when you put a hypejob with a padded record against an elite fighter Canelo did much better than Ramirez at least he made Bivol back down at times and tried to win Bivol didn't even break a sweat with Zurdo Did he or Bivol was given instructions not to stop Canelo? He literally when ultra-aggressive from a high guard against a bigger, stronger man but sit back on box with Canelo when Canelo's punches didn't really affect him? He's like Crawford carrying Porter until his corner got the memo, stop BSing around!

This is why the eye test rankings don’t work. You can’t base a fighter off of how they look when fighting guys they are supposed to beat. Unless you have eye sight problems you would know Zurdo looked like crap with the eye test anyway. Slow, plodding, pushes punches. I saw nothing new tonight.

I don't remember him being that Slow but I do think Bivol had a lot to do with why he looked that way Bivol is much quicker than he gets credit for CLEARLY, even Canelo looked surprised by that, did not expect him to be the "MOVER" that he was in that fight because yeah on the outside looking in he does look very basic and kinda stuff but in that ring you find out he is why faster than he looks clearly

To be honest, I haven`t seen too many his fights, but I have seen enough to be sure he wouldn`t beat Bivol. Not the same level. So this is a "Mexican style", eating punches the whole night, fighting a smaller fighter? Ramirez sucks. I only saw his last 3 fights and thought he looked like garbage, very basic and slow with no defense. The Bivol fight went as I predicted although I did expect Zurdo to at least have more heart and fight mexican style instead he was intimidated and fought timid. He is just a can crusher.

He is the same level not the same speed and he pushes punches which means there is no way for him to time Bivol, he just couldn't deal with the hand/foot speed, its not rocket science, without the timing he had one-way he could pull it of and that was to back him up hard and let his hands go, he felt Bivols right hand, and that ended that. Bivol is a LH Andrade, very good boxers I don't knock them as they always hard to beat but they are nothing special at all. So you say Andrade is also elite and he would make canelo look average? Wow, mate, but, well, it must be true.​

God dam its a LH with what 21 fights , that is so different than guys from 154 to 122, the overall level of competition output numbers etc are totally different. So you say Andrade is also elite and he would make canelo look average? Wow, mate, this is a taugh statement.

Just a bum who fought other bums and Golden Boy thought he could beat a champion but a huge mistake

This is why the eye test rankings don’t work. You can’t base a fighter off of how they look when fighting guys they are supposed to beat. Boxing is mostly mental. The eye test is only valid once a fighter faces an opponent in which the general boxing community believes they could lose to their opponent. Until then, it’s purely subjective and fabricated by imagination. Zurdo was carried well most of his career but tonight he looked like he was a 10-0 fighter stepping up in competition. Instead of this 44-0 monster they tried to sell him as.

It was either Jesse ¨never-was¨ Hart or a washed up Abraham 3 fights aways from retirement padded af resume Maxim Vlasov was better than either at the time they fought IMO, Zurdo was definitely given the benefit of the doubt there as he was against Hart.

That’s what happens when you fight rubbish opponents your whole career Let’s be honest , Zurdo’s best opponent was Jesse fughin Hart What does that tell you I'd rate Vlasov over Hart personally, although Zurdo should have lost that one too.

Ramirez fought nervous in this fight, almost seem like he's star struck and he wants to worship the guy in front of him. When you're checked every time you make a move it quickly shuts you down, Floyd made a career of it against great fighters. There is nothing more confronting than being beaten to the punch every time, speed is a killer in boxing.

I have acknowledged Bivol's skill long before everyone else did, so there's no need to repeat them here. I have little interest in this division. I don't know why. From what I've been seeing, Bivol would make Beterbiev look average. It's possible Bivol would KHTFO. Just wondering why this fight hasn't happened yet. Who is ducking who? I don't think it's Bivol.​ Joe Smith is telling the truth. Bivol would smash Beterbiev like a potato.​

Ramirez fought nervous in this fight, almost seem like he's star struck and he wants to worship the guy in front of him.

This is what happens when you put a hypejob with a padded record against an elite fighter Canelo did much better than Ramirez at least he made Bivol back down at times and tried to win Bivol didn't even break a sweat with Zurdo Yeap, Canelo won a round and a half, the round and a half Bivol decided to rest.

It was either Jesse ¨never-was¨ Hart or a washed up Abraham 3 fights aways from retirement padded af resume Its not padded its just a LH resume today and today the depth of talent is not there.

It was either Jesse ¨never-was¨ Hart or a washed up Abraham 3 fights aways from retirement padded af resume Jesse Hart would be my pick but can’t argue about the padding on that fughin record