Most Overrated Boxers of All-Time?

James Toney, for sure. By far the most overrated fighter I've seen (On the internet)

If Pac is overhyoed then Floyd should be on your list also as pac is Floyd s best win This coming from the last remnants of the Pac Bois :lol1: May has many best wins. Pac is just one of them. The CW King had a terrible WW career and an overrated resume before that. Deal with it

andre ward & canelo

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Tyson Fury ( some idi.ots think he is ATG because he beat Klitschko, Wilder and Whyte) Joshua ( he is Bruno 2.0) Wilder ( never beat anybody good) GGG ( a long middleweight career, but he fought bums mostly) Canelo ( he was actually seen as the favorite for Bivol fight, lol) Mayweather ( a nice career, but he d.ucked nearly all prime fighters)

Chavez Sr - Most padded record ever Mike Tyson - Bum bully. Holyfield and Douglas showed him for what he was. C-Class Oscar De la Hoya - Lost every big fight Butterbean - Although he was robbed vs Larry Holmes, his record is too padded to take seriously Tony Bellew. Beat a finished David Haye twice and was never seen again. Anthony was true to his word. Nash out

Vander 190+ Hvy record 26-10-2, 13 KO Usyk equivalent 200+ Hvy record 26-0, 16 KO who has fought an average heavier, taller opponents than Vander. Usyk's record against fighters weighing more than 200 pounds (if you count the World Series of Boxing five-rounders) is 14-0 with 7 KOs. How many fights with Hall of Famers did Holyfield have? Like 10 or 11? (Including Lewis, Tyson, Holmes, Foreman, Bowe, etc.). That's not counting guys ON the HOF ballot now. How many (future) Hall of Famers has Usyk faced so far? Usyk is WILDLY overrated.

- - Yo, Dribble Chin, U still need a bib is it? Wlad was a superheavy gold Olympic champion turning pro in the analogous heavy division. Usyk was a heavy gold Olympic champ turning pro in the analogous cruiser division that was heavy divison in 190lb Vander day. Vander 190+ Hvy record 26-10-2, 13 KO Usyk equivalent 200+ Hvy record 26-0, 16 KO who has fought an average heavier, taller opponents than Vander. Does U even follow boxing or just regurgitate boxing for U bib? Deontay Wilder fought in the same division as Usyk in the amateurs. They would've faced each other in the semifinals of the 2008 Olympics if Usyk hadn't lost in the Quarterfinals. The difference is Wilder turned pro as a heavyweight like Frazier, Foreman, Tate, Rademacher, Johansson, Mercer, Golota, Tua, Izon, Ibragimov, Nicholson and basically EVERYONE who fights at heavyweight in the Olympics does. (Holyfield and Leon Spinks fought at light heavys in the Olympics. So did Ali. Hell, Floyd Patterson, Michael Spinks and Chris Byrd were Olympic middleweights.) Except Usyk started at heavyweight and decided Cruiserweight would be easier than fighting bigger guys. Wilder turned pro as a heavyweight. (Hell, Usyk was 10 pounds heavier than Wilder in their last fights.) That was Usyk's call. But don't act like being the Heavyweight Gold Medalist and deciding to fight at Cruiser instead of heavyweight as a pro wasn't the easier route. Usyk hasn't exactly been dominant when he's had to give up 20, 30 or 40 pounds to opponents, even the ordinary ones.

- - Yo, Dribble Chin, U still need a bib is it? Wlad was a superheavy gold Olympic champion turning pro in the analogous heavy division. Usyk was a heavy gold Olympic champ turning pro in the analogous cruiser division that was heavy divison in 190lb Vander day. Vander 190+ Hvy record 26-10-2, 13 KO Usyk equivalent 200+ Hvy record 26-0, 16 KO who has fought an average heavier, taller opponents than Vander. Does U even follow boxing or just regurgitate boxing for U bib? Usyk's best win is the overrated Joshua. Holyfield beat Tyson. Tyson would have eviscerated Joshua. You know it, I know it, and everyone else knows it. So go ahead and stop while you're still behind. No one cares how much you try and skewer things to get ANYONE to see things through your rum soaked eyes.

All-time? There are too many to name. Every era has a handful, like: * Jimmy Young (who was good for about three years out of a 20 year career, and was pretty bad for the other 17 years) * Earnie Shavers (who failed to stop and couldn't even beat some truly awful heavyweights, yet is hailed as the best puncher ever by some) * Harry Greb (who was not considered a great fighter in his day by those who actually watched him in the ring but is now treated by people who never saw him like every no-decision/newspaper decision he had where no official judges were present and when his hand was never raised at the end was actually a legit win) * Donald Curry (who, if he fought in the era of De La Hoya and Trinidad, would've been Oba Carr). The most overrated boxer currently is Oleksandr Usyk. Evander Holyfield turned pro at light heavyweight, unified at cruiserweight and won all the recognized heavyweight titles against Buster Douglas via KO, and people back then still thought Holyfield was a “blown-up cruiserweight.” It took Holyfield years go be recognized as a great heavyweight, arguably until he beat Mike Tyson in their first fight in 1996. That’s when you started seeing Evander high up on all-time heavyweight lists. On the other hand, Usyk won the Olympic Heavyweight gold medal and turned pro as a heavyweight, then he moved down to campaign as a cruiserweight because Wlad Klitschko was the dominant force at heavyweight and cruiserweight would be easier. Had the weight limit still been 190, like it was when Evander was a cruiserweight, Usyk never could've even made the weight. Yet, Usyk spent years unifying a weak cruiserweight division. When he couldn't make 200 pounds anymore, he moved up and defeated a late-sub, semi-retired Chazz Witherspoon and struggled with Derek Chisora before, in his mid 30s, outpointing Anthony Joshua in an upset, and now hipsters act like Usyk is the second coming. If Jae Opeatai, the current World Cruiserweight Champion, announced he was moving up and was fighting Chazz Witherspoon next, anyone would be proclaiming him the next great heavyweight? You even have “supposed” neutral boxing ratings bodies (like Ring and the Transnational thing) lapping it up. They stripped Fury of “world” title recognition and handed it to Usyk and tried to pass off the excuse that they believed Fury was retired. Nobody believed Fury was retired. The WBC, which loves to strip boxers of belts, didn’t even believe Fury was retired because he was in the gym training and negotiating fights the entire time. But those hipster fanboys at Ring and elsewhere couldn’t wait to award Usyk the “World” title. Since Usyk won his belts from Joshua, Usyk has made one defense (a decision over Joshua in the return) and Fury is about to make his third defense (Wilder 3, Whyte and Chisora 3 a little over a month from now) in the same time frame. Anyone think Fury will struggle with Chisora like Usyk did? It’s ridiculous. Is Usyk talented? Certainly. Do I give him credit for returning home to defend his country? I applaud him for that. It shows true character. But he’s 35. He avoided fighting at heavyweight as long as he could. The only person he’s stopped at heavyweight was a late-sub Chazz Witherspoon (and Usyk couldn’t even put him down). I’ve no doubt Tyson Fury stops Usyk faster than Fury stopped Whyte. Deontay Wilder - who wouldn’t have to give up 20, 40 or 50 pounds like he usually does - stops Usyk even earlier. ​ - - Yo, Dribble Chin, U still need a bib is it? Wlad was a superheavy gold Olympic champion turning pro in the analogous heavy division. Usyk was a heavy gold Olympic champ turning pro in the analogous cruiser division that was heavy divison in 190lb Vander day. Vander 190+ Hvy record 26-10-2, 13 KO Usyk equivalent 200+ Hvy record 26-0, 16 KO who has fought an average heavier, taller opponents than Vander. Does U even follow boxing or just regurgitate boxing for U bib?

All-time? There are too many to name. Every era has a handful, like: * Jimmy Young (who was good for about three years out of a 20 year career, and was pretty bad for the other 17 years) * Earnie Shavers (who failed to stop and couldn't even beat some truly awful heavyweights, yet is hailed as the best puncher ever by some) * Harry Greb (who was not considered a great fighter in his day by those who actually watched him in the ring but is now treated by people who never saw him like every no-decision/newspaper decision he had where no official judges were present and when his hand was never raised at the end was actually a legit win) * Donald Curry (who, if he fought in the era of De La Hoya and Trinidad, would've been Oba Carr). The most overrated boxer currently is Oleksandr Usyk. Evander Holyfield turned pro at light heavyweight, unified at cruiserweight and won all the recognized heavyweight titles against Buster Douglas via KO, and people back then still thought Holyfield was a “blown-up cruiserweight.” It took Holyfield years go be recognized as a great heavyweight, arguably until he beat Mike Tyson in their first fight in 1996. That’s when you started seeing Evander high up on all-time heavyweight lists. On the other hand, Usyk won the Olympic Heavyweight gold medal and turned pro as a heavyweight, then he moved down to campaign as a cruiserweight because Wlad Klitschko was the dominant force at heavyweight and cruiserweight would be easier. Had the weight limit still been 190, like it was when Evander was a cruiserweight, Usyk never could've even made the weight. Yet, Usyk spent years unifying a weak cruiserweight division. When he couldn't make 200 pounds anymore, he moved up and defeated a late-sub, semi-retired Chazz Witherspoon and struggled with Derek Chisora before, in his mid 30s, outpointing Anthony Joshua in an upset, and now hipsters act like Usyk is the second coming. If Jae Opeatai, the current World Cruiserweight Champion, announced he was moving up and was fighting Chazz Witherspoon next, anyone would be proclaiming him the next great heavyweight? You even have “supposed” neutral boxing ratings bodies (like Ring and the Transnational thing) lapping it up. They stripped Fury of “world” title recognition and handed it to Usyk and tried to pass off the excuse that they believed Fury was retired. Nobody believed Fury was retired. The WBC, which loves to strip boxers of belts, didn’t even believe Fury was retired because he was in the gym training and negotiating fights the entire time. But those hipster fanboys at Ring and elsewhere couldn’t wait to award Usyk the “World” title. Since Usyk won his belts from Joshua, Usyk has made one defense (a decision over Joshua in the return) and Fury is about to make his third defense (Wilder 3, Whyte and Chisora 3 a little over a month from now) in the same time frame. Anyone think Fury will struggle with Chisora like Usyk did? It’s ridiculous. Is Usyk talented? Certainly. Do I give him credit for returning home to defend his country? I applaud him for that. It shows true character. But he’s 35. He avoided fighting at heavyweight as long as he could. The only person he’s stopped at heavyweight was a late-sub Chazz Witherspoon (and Usyk couldn’t even put him down). I’ve no doubt Tyson Fury stops Usyk faster than Fury stopped Whyte. Deontay Wilder - who wouldn’t have to give up 20, 40 or 50 pounds like he usually does - stops Usyk even earlier. ​

Of ''all'' time....that list is long My top 3 GGG - One of the saddest PRIME resumes EVER. This MFer has MAYBE 2 credible opponents (Nelo and Jacobs). And he waited until Nelo was the cash cow to step up his game. As ''old'' as he is, HE should have been the cash cow, but nooooooooooo............. Pac - Yeah, yeah......humble and entertaining His claim to fame is constantly fighting post prime Mexicans and being the CW King. As GGG did as a MW, Pac's WW resume is terrible !!!! Prior to that, it was fist eating food vendors. Mike T - He's a combination of GGG and Pac. Thrived in a dead era and melted when he stepped up (the rare times he did) He was far from humble yet entertaining. Smashing so many certified BUMS, ad nauseam, never made a guy so famous. Strange how some fight fans swallowed his braggadocios attitude. Yet hate others who are equally confident in their abilities. His fans say ''if he never went....'' Zzzzzz If Pac is overhyoed then Floyd should be on your list also as pac is Floyd s best win

Of ''all'' time....that list is long My top 3 GGG - One of the saddest PRIME resumes EVER. This MFer has MAYBE 2 credible opponents (Nelo and Jacobs). And he waited until Nelo was the cash cow to step up his game. As ''old'' as he is, HE should have been the cash cow, but nooooooooooo............. Pac - Yeah, yeah......humble and entertaining His claim to fame is constantly fighting post prime Mexicans and being the CW King. As GGG did as a MW, Pac's WW resume is terrible !!!! Prior to that, it was fist eating food vendors. Mike T - He's a combination of GGG and Pac. Thrived in a dead era and melted when he stepped up (the rare times he did) He was far from humble yet entertaining. Smashing so many certified BUMS, ad nauseam, never made a guy so famous. Strange how some fight fans swallowed his braggadocios attitude. Yet hate others who are equally confident in their abilities. His fans say ''if he never went....'' Zzzzzz

Ali Raymi, but only due to having minimal film. I still believe he KO's Chocolatito in 2014.

mayweather has one of the greatest resumes of all time

Disclaimer: to anyone thinking I’m being a jerk, this is my way of being silly. If I sound like I’m racist against white or Mexican boxers, I’m just having a little go at my own guys (that’s my heritage). But seriously, I get annoyed af at some of these fanboys who rewrite the boxing narrative. All in good fun— thought it would make for an interesting thread.