Perfect time for one or both to call out Spence. Too soon maybe to be fighting each other, the risk reward is low. Not so with Spence, win and go to the head of the class Lose but give a good account of yourself and your stock still rises.
He has had 30 fights, when the hell are you going to fight them? When they are old men? They are both overrated and not on the Dela Hoya level so if they think boots is that good then he is ready. Vargas had a great fight with Oscar anyway. Your garbage mentality is exactly what is wrong with boxing today. Pathetic.
Not really, fans like you just want to rush thing and when these guys lose people like YOU just move on to the next fight and start calling the guy that lost a "Disappointment"
30 Fights is great but WHO has Boots fought? Asking for Boots to test himself before jumping in with Elites is not asking for much, he can do that in 1 fight vs a Thurman or somebody then go straight for his IBF Mandatory vs Spence in 2023
Kinda Funny, yet every younger fighter who Challenges Canelo is ask to "Challenge Themselves" "Raise Their Stock" "Fight Somebody" yet this is not the Case for Boots and Ortiz? Instead Spence and Crawford "SHOULD FIGHT THEM NOW!"
THIS is what is wrong with Boxing nobody in it and none of the fans of it are consistent! You guys want to make rules as you go and based on who you like and Don't like
I've said Benavidez and Charlo should fight for the shot at Canelo, then why not Boots and Ortiz fight for the shot at Spence or Bud? The Funny thing is, Benavidez and Charlo actually been Champions before, neither Ortiz and Boots have but yet the Champions are asked to do MORE while these guys should just get a shot because guys on a Forum think they're worthy of one NOW
The Laughable HYPOCRISY in this Sport all around, that is the REAL Issue!
I see Daniyar Yeleussinov being in the mix. He was a Gold Medalist apparently, 30 yrs old now. He was fighting on DAZN but then left his promoter and I haven't seen him since.
Sadly while I do see he is quite talented, but due to his inactivity I see it difficult for him to climb the rankings any time soon as he going to turn 32.
According to twitter source Batman Boxing, Daniyar Yeleussinov said:
"I would have stayed with Matchroom but their offer included slave-like conditions. It was worthless. I had to commit to just $100K for each fight even if this was against some of the biggest names in the division like Conor Benn, Vergil Ortiz or Errol Spence. These fights should earn me six or seven times that amount! And I had no right to increase my fee at all."
His manager said they has negotiations with several promoters and one of them is Probellum.
What a waste of talent, to make it worse he is going to be one of the last Golden Olympians for years to come.
Other than Stanionis, Ennis and Ortiz Is there any other upcoming fighters at welterweight to look out for?
Danny Garcia moved up in fear of becoming used as a steppingstone for rising contenders, Keith Thurman looked quite vulnerable Mario Barrios who was knocked out by a lightweight, Conor Benn could be banned temporarily for a long period of time, and Yordenis Ugas is on his way out.
The top 10 ranking fighters aren't really recognizable names.
All I know that there is Rashidi Ellis who was benched by GBP was just signed at PBC, Alexis Rocha and possibly Josh Taylor.
I see Daniyar Yeleussinov being in the mix. He was a Gold Medalist apparently, 30 yrs old now. He was fighting on DAZN but then left his promoter and I haven't seen him since.
Maybe Ryan and Devin will get there eventually too but really I don’t see any worthy challengers other than Boots and Vergel. I might be missing someone, if so, maybe somebody will throw their name out there.
I am not sure if they if either Jaron and Vergil will stick around long enough if they are just moving up at 140 for 2-3 years.
As far as I know, other than what I mentioned there is:
Cody Crowley with low KO ratio but beated Josesito Lopez and Kudratillo Abdukakhorov.
David Avanesyan whom is making a comeback after his loss agaisnt Kavaliuskas, beating Josh Kelly and Kerman Lejarraga twice.
Connor Benn could currently easily been in the Mix if he hadn't tested positive.
Other than Stanionis, Ennis and Ortiz Is there any other upcoming fighters at welterweight to look out for?
Danny Garcia moved up in fear of becoming used as a steppingstone for rising contenders, Keith Thurman looked quite vulnerable Mario Barrios who was knocked out by a lightweight, Conor Benn could be banned temporarily for a long period of time, and Yordenis Ugas is on his way out.
The top 10 ranking fighters aren't really recognizable names.
All I know that there is Rashidi Ellis who was benched by GBP was just signed at PBC, Alexis Rocha and possibly Josh Taylor.
Maybe Ryan and Devin will get there eventually too but really I don’t see any worthy challengers other than Boots and Vergel. I might be missing someone, if so, maybe somebody will throw their name out there.
Neither getting a shot at Bud or Spence at 147 at least maybe 154 but at 147 not likely not only that but if you're Cameron Dunkin whp Promotes Boots and GBP who Promote Vergil...do you even want to rush them in with those guys right now? Not just talking about just any world Champions you're talking about ELITE Fighters who are both in most Top 5 P4P
I see WTF happened to Fenando Vargas when they threw him in with Oscar and Trinidad rather early he never really recovered from it. It is different when you get in with the Elites compared to just knocking out Mid Level Contenders on the way up
so as a fan of BOTH fighters, I don't think they're ready for those guys just yet
He has had 30 fights, when the hell are you going to fight them? When they are old men? They are both overrated and not on the Dela Hoya level so if they think boots is that good then he is ready. Vargas had a great fight with Oscar anyway. Your garbage mentality is exactly what is wrong with boxing today. Pathetic.
Other than Stanionis, Ennis and Ortiz Is there any other upcoming fighters at welterweight to look out for?
Danny Garcia moved up in fear of becoming used as a steppingstone for rising contenders, Keith Thurman looked quite vulnerable Mario Barrios who was knocked out by a lightweight, Conor Benn could be banned temporarily for a long period of time, and Yordenis Ugas is on his way out.
The top 10 ranking fighters aren't really recognizable names.
All I know that there is Rashidi Ellis who was benched by GBP was just signed at PBC, Alexis Rocha and possibly Josh Taylor.
Neither getting a shot at Bud or Spence at 147 at least maybe 154 but at 147 not likely not only that but if you're Cameron Dunkin whp Promotes Boots and GBP who Promote Vergil...do you even want to rush them in with those guys right now? Not just talking about just any world Champions you're talking about ELITE Fighters who are both in most Top 5 P4P
I see WTF happened to Fenando Vargas when they threw him in with Oscar and Trinidad rather early he never really recovered from it. It is different when you get in with the Elites compared to just knocking out Mid Level Contenders on the way up
so as a fan of BOTH fighters, I don't think they're ready for those guys just yet
I don’t think that Vargas would have beaten either no matter how long he prepared. (Although I admittedly have argued otherwise)
How much better do you think Boots will get fighting the level of fighters he’s fighting? Unlike Vergel, Boots had an excellent Amateur career, I don’t know how much more ready he’s going to get.
Vergel has improved a lot in the pros. I don’t know how much more ready he’ll be after facing a guy like Stanionis, who in my opinion is a level below the Mean Machine.
Neither getting a shot at Bud or Spence at 147 at least maybe 154 but at 147 not likely not only that but if you're Cameron Dunkin whp Promotes Boots and GBP who Promote Vergil...do you even want to rush them in with those guys right now? Not just talking about just any world Champions you're talking about ELITE Fighters who are both in most Top 5 P4P
I see WTF happened to Fenando Vargas when they threw him in with Oscar and Trinidad rather early he never really recovered from it. It is different when you get in with the Elites compared to just knocking out Mid Level Contenders on the way up
so as a fan of BOTH fighters, I don't think they're ready for those guys just yet
Par the course, media gives the pass to Crawford for fighting a lesser opponent, whilst Spence is the only one REQUIRED to face every member of the young guard in Stanionis, Ortiz, and Ennis.
Now, I don't have a problem with Spence fighting these guys, but it must happen after Spence-Crawford.
Lol, required? Crawford, as it turns out, decided to take a big payday while waiting for the PBC wheels to grind out some more contract conditions.
I only mentioned Spence instead of Crawford as he’s the one of the two not currently doing anything.
The people being victimized here are the fans of the sport, not Spence or PBC. Just the opposite in fact.
Par the course, media gives the pass to Crawford for fighting a lesser opponent, whilst Spence is the only one REQUIRED to face every member of the young guard in Stanionis, Ortiz, and Ennis.
Now, I don't have a problem with Spence fighting these guys, but it must happen after Spence-Crawford.