Why was James Toney such a waste

without the excessive eating, he would've never become heavyweight champ and knocking out Evander Holyfield. James Toney >>> Mike Tyson fat Toney would mug Tyson heads up too. Holyfield was 41

Toney is a legend I respect him for fighting and training for years with low t shows you how skilled he actually was. Nothing to do with eating. "I went to the doctor on the advice of some people that work closely with me and found out that I was suffering from thyroid problems as well as low testosterone problems," Toney told Percy Crawford at Fighthype. Toney claims that medication he was given following surgery (to repair two torn bicep muscles after his 2004 victory over Rydell Booker) was the culprit in this weighty problem. "They gave me a lot of medication and it caused me to have a low testosterone count as well as thyroid problems. My weight has been hit and miss ever since then and I didn't understand why," he says. Toney is now on medication to correct his health issues, and says his weight is now in the "low 240s" after being 257 only weeks ago. Feeling reborn and confident, Toney has now resumed his usual obscenity-laced trash talking, setting his sights a little higher than boxing writers this time, but not as high as the Klitschko brothers. Thus, former light-heavyweight king turned heavyweight Antonio Tarver. "I'm about to be back to the Rydell Booker and Holyfield form," Toney says" The most probable cause of James Toney's low testosterone is long-term use of anabolic steroids without appropriate PCT (post-cycle therapy). Obesity doesn't help, either.

All Time Great Middleweight WTF are you talking about "Waste" ATG? jesus wept lad that’s a big stretch. You do know he only held the ibf right and didn’t exactly clean out the division. Now could he have been a mw atg? Possibly but he wasted his talent

Correction, I take back "All Time Great" that is a bit much BUT I would say Toney had a Good Run at 160 beating Nunn, McCallum and I think Barkley was at 160? or might have been 168 I remember him fighting Barkley after the McCallum Rematch Toney was in a bit of a Cold ERA, he was the ERA after Hagler and Leonard in which Boxing in those Lower Division went Cold and just wasn't as hot so no question Toney started slacking and was winning fights on Talent alone and not working hard BUT still Managed to put together a Hall of Fame Career so it can't be considered a "Waste" of course he could've did somethings Better He had a decent run at 160, not overly impressive. Barkley was at 168. He beat Nunn, after being dominated for most of the fight. Good win. He had a draw with McCallum and a win over McCallum, I thought he lost the second fight but was either way. He beat Reggie Johnson, quality fighter but that’s another one I thought he lost. But was another either way fight. He lost to Dave Tiberi, drew with Sanderline Williams, arguably lost to Sosa.

ATG Middleweight how? What do you consider the criteria for someone to be an ATG in a weight class? It’s usually Top 10 and he is no where even remotely close to that. Correction, I take back "All Time Great" that is a bit much BUT I would say Toney had a Good Run at 160 beating Nunn, McCallum and I think Barkley was at 160? or might have been 168 I remember him fighting Barkley after the McCallum Rematch Toney was in a bit of a Cold ERA, he was the ERA after Hagler and Leonard in which Boxing in those Lower Division went Cold and just wasn't as hot so no question Toney started slacking and was winning fights on Talent alone and not working hard BUT still Managed to put together a Hall of Fame Career so it can't be considered a "Waste" of course he could've did somethings Better

All Time Great Middleweight WTF are you talking about "Waste" ATG Middleweight how? What do you consider the criteria for someone to be an ATG in a weight class? It’s usually Top 10 and he is no where even remotely close to that.

All Time Great Middleweight WTF are you talking about "Waste"

Good power, excellent counterpuncher, great boxing IQ, strong chin, solid footwork. The guy had so many tools in his bag but ate his way out of greatness how does that happen to a world class boxer. Same way it happens to 85% if people on here. Their pigs.

He's not a "waste" Tony Ayala was a waste Lamar Parks was a waste Bernard Mays was a waste Toney's a great, he's just not an all-time great and he should have been.:boxing:

I don't think he was over-rated. He knocked a guy out going backwards, he will sit in front of an active puncher and was able to deflect punches and hit. He had other talents that could had made him great. Even Jones say that everything he was trying on him was not working and got him to imitate his rooster stance so he could hit him. That was an out of shape Toney that showed up in that fight but he has only himself to blame. Roy Jones totally schooled him whilst in first gear for the entire fight. And Toney was no more “out of shape” for any other fight he had in his career.

Toney was a baby when we fought Nunn though, that was an impressive win. Nunn was on top of the world before that. I didn’t say it wasn’t an impressive win, it was. It was just far from dominant.

Toney was a baby when we fought Nunn though, that was an impressive win. Nunn was on top of the world before that.

Michael Nunn?? He was dominated by Micheal Nunn before he got the KO. Top win but far from dominant.

Good fighter but very overrated This thread full of excuses as per usual. Toney went as far as he could go. He beat some good fighters, lost to some, also lost to some unranked fighters in his prime years. He never beat a top fighter in dominant fashion in his entire career. Michael Nunn??

Listen to this guy. He never beat a top fighter in dominant fashion his entire career. Name one all time great in their prime Floyd beat

Good fighter but very overrated This thread full of excuses as per usual. Toney went as far as he could go. He beat some good fighters, lost to some, also lost to some unranked fighters in his prime years. He never beat a top fighter in dominant fashion in his entire career. I don't think he was over-rated. He knocked a guy out going backwards, he will sit in front of an active puncher and was able to deflect punches and hit. He had other talents that could had made him great. Even Jones say that everything he was trying on him was not working and got him to imitate his rooster stance so he could hit him. That was an out of shape Toney that showed up in that fight but he has only himself to blame.

Good fighter but very overrated This thread full of excuses as per usual. Toney went as far as he could go. He beat some good fighters, lost to some, also lost to some unranked fighters in his prime years. He never beat a top fighter in dominant fashion in his entire career.

Toney was one of my favorite fighters. He had so many tools and was very good in a lot of areas. Once he was overweight before the weigh in for Jones I already knew at that point he was going to have problems with his career. That was at that point one of the biggest fights for him and he couldn't get himself into shape. The Montell Griffin loses was because he was even lazy in the fight. When motivated he will give you a fight like when Jirov and Holyfield. Waste of talent regardless what issues he had. His ego got the best of him.

Good power, excellent counterpuncher, great boxing IQ, strong chin, solid footwork. The guy had so many tools in his bag but ate his way out of greatness how does that happen to a world class boxer. He lost to some guys he shouldn't and received a gift win over Tiberi which was criminal and caused an investigation.

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