Am I the only one who's bugged that Teddy Atlas never talks about Lennox Lewis as one of the Great?

Your history is off. Bowe ruined his whole career and legacy running scared from Lewis. Evander is my favorite HW of all time, but Lennox beat him twice cleanly. Mike Tyson went to jail. Not Lennox's fault. Make a reasonable, fact-supported case that Lewis ducked anyone in their primes and everybody will listen, but you won't be able to. Lewis wasn't unbeatable but he did emphatically avenge his losses. He KO'd Rahman worse than he got KO'd by him and he punched McCall so hard in the rematch that he lost his mind in the ring. He had almost everything that guy, Lewis. Experts critized him for not letting his hands go, but I think he did that to preserve energy. He was smart, the commentators were not. ​​​​​​ Packed a really stiff right hand too but if you watch the first Holyfield fight, Lewis doesn't let it go... That's because he knows who he is up against. Better to just punch him with volumes if you can't drop him with one bomb anyway. ​

He never boxed Bowe. He beat an ageing Holyfield and a shot Mike Tyson. And he got cleaned out by 2 B grade HW's McCall and Rahman. And you wonder why Teddy doesn't have him as an ATG?? Lennox is the Calzaghe of the HW's, played the long game, avoided the big names in their prime then picked them off when they were past it. Holyfield lost to fn Ruiz

Nah I tend to think mostly about things that matter.

He never boxed Bowe. He beat an ageing Holyfield and a shot Mike Tyson. And he got cleaned out by 2 B grade HW's McCall and Rahman. And you wonder why Teddy doesn't have him as an ATG?? Lennox is the Calzaghe of the HW's, played the long game, avoided the big names in their prime then picked them off when they were past it. Your history is off. Bowe ruined his whole career and legacy running scared from Lewis. Evander is my favorite HW of all time, but Lennox beat him twice cleanly. Mike Tyson went to jail. Not Lennox's fault. Make a reasonable, fact-supported case that Lewis ducked anyone in their primes and everybody will listen, but you won't be able to. Lewis wasn't unbeatable but he did emphatically avenge his losses. He KO'd Rahman worse than he got KO'd by him and he punched McCall so hard in the rematch that he lost his mind in the ring.

He never boxed Bowe. He beat an ageing Holyfield and a shot Mike Tyson. And he got cleaned out by 2 B grade HW's McCall and Rahman. And you wonder why Teddy doesn't have him as an ATG?? Lennox is the Calzaghe of the HW's, played the long game, avoided the big names in their prime then picked them off when they were past it.

Nobody says lennox is the goat, but maybe he could be depending on criteria

Teddy Atlas should not have this much control over your emotions. Lennox Lewis is a Top 3 ATG HW. Who God bless, No man curse!

why be bothered over the next mans opinion? I am annoyed by the fact that he talks as if Lewis never existed. Meaning he never brings him up.

why be bothered over the next mans opinion?

George Foreman of the 70's was great, but he was hardly a complete fighter. . Oh yes he was. . Ali lost to spinks, had wars with Norton, Frazier. All fighters Foreman destroyed inside two rounds. ​​​​​​ Larry Holmes hates Foremans guts. He still said and I quote:"I thought Foreman was invincible as WC"

He beat Bowe in the Olympics. Btw, no real reason to think he struggles against Ali. Lewis only weakness was arrogance. He's so versatile I don't even know what style he would struggle against. I guess the Ray Mercer type.. But that was only one fight so it's hard to draw any conclusion.. Maybe he had a bad day. I would have liked to see a rematch between the two. When it comes to the 70s, the most complete fighter was George Foreman. He had the chin, he could beat you on the inside, and he had a FANTASTIC jab, especially young when it was snappier. Better than Alis. Better than Holmes. He did not want to box Ali, which proved to be fatal. You need three attributes to be a complete fighter: jab, chin, and power.. Foreman had all of them. George Foreman of the 70's was great, but he was hardly a complete fighter. It takes a bit more than a jab, chin and power to make a complete fighter. I think 70's Foreman vs prime Lennox is a pick'em fight, but I think prime Holmes is an even tougher night out for Lennox. Not sure why you think that Lennox wouldn't struggle with Ali. Not sure who wins that, but its life and death for both guys.

Let's put in this way. Prime Lennox Lewis is probably the favorite against every other HW in history not named Muhammad Ali. Legacy votes probably put Ali and Joe Louis ahead of him ATG, but I would argue that Lewis is a favorite or a pick'em against any HW over the last 150 yrs. As you say, he beat everybody in his generation who didn't run from him (pointing at you, Riddick). I would also pick prime Lewis to beat the top HWs of this era and the last (Fury, Usyk, Wilder, AJ,Wlad...). He beat Bowe in the Olympics. Btw, no real reason to think he struggles against Ali. Lewis only weakness was arrogance. He's so versatile I don't even know what style he would struggle against. I guess the Ray Mercer type.. But that was only one fight so it's hard to draw any conclusion.. Maybe he had a bad day. I would have liked to see a rematch between the two. When it comes to the 70s, the most complete fighter was George Foreman. He had the chin, he could beat you on the inside, and he had a FANTASTIC jab, especially young when it was snappier. Better than Alis. Better than Holmes. He did not want to box Ali, which proved to be fatal. You need three attributes to be a complete fighter: jab, chin, and power.. Foreman had all of them.

It just annoys me. I guarantee it's because he's not American. Let's put in this way. Prime Lennox Lewis is probably the favorite against every other HW in history not named Muhammad Ali. Legacy votes probably put Ali and Joe Louis ahead of him ATG, but I would argue that Lewis is a favorite or a pick'em against any HW over the last 150 yrs. As you say, he beat everybody in his generation who didn't run from him (pointing at you, Riddick). I would also pick prime Lewis to beat the top HWs of this era and the last (Fury, Usyk, Wilder, AJ,Wlad...).

I'm bugged that this bugs you. Lennox, is that you?

Yeah I don't really care what Atlas thinks.

Lewis beat everybody in his generation. He is obviously a top 3 HW of all time. ​​​​​​ Atlas pretends as if he didn't exist. Is it because Lewis is not American? Atlas even wears a Evander Holyfield t-shirt.. Again, Lewis doesn't exist in his world. - - What grade U in puggy? Loony Teddy and Light in the Loafers Lewie two of the most insecure people in boxing. Let'em think they're great, then they pass and nobody remembers what idiots they were.

Teddy Atlas should not have this much control over your emotions. Lennox Lewis is a Top 3 ATG HW. It just annoys me. I guarantee it's because he's not American.

Teddy Atlas should not have this much control over your emotions. Lennox Lewis is a Top 3 ATG HW.