Joe Joyce - thoughts against AJ/Wilder/Usyk/Fury etc & also Joyce's attributes reminds me of a former world champion

one big thing is, joyce is soooo open to that overhand right, any big powerful puncher will light him up and like i said he cant depend on his chin in the heavyweight division

Too big. Too strong. yea froch eat your heart out lol :rolleyes:

Fury won't fight Joyce. Not because he scared of him, rather he can't get in the shape he needs to win. Joyce would butcher Wilder. Ko inside of six rounds. Usyk would beat Joyce 8 rounds to 4, easily. An interesting guy. come on fury faced the hardest hitter in wilder in this era, he wont be scared to fight anyone and that second kock down in the first furt v wilder fight proves that when usyk got hurt with that body shot and was getting roughed up in that round against AJ, if that was fury o jyce they wouldve finished him, AJ got stamina issues and just doesnt have that mental fortitude when it comes down to digging deep imho wilder will land that over and right all night long, jyce cant keep depending on his chin, especially in the heavyweight division

Good observation in seeing some Carl Froch in Joyce. remember how mnay of frochs opponnts dissed him for his tehcnical boxing and his skills bu tlook he did good with majortyof his opponents as in e made it a fight and wasnt a walk through the park joyce will be hard work for most boxers but fury will deal with him but joyce might have his spells and even then i have doubt whether he will have spells in it

Solid post and I agree with most of it. I think Usyk outboxes Joyce and wins wide. The dude takes a good shot to be the smaller man and Joyce is there to be hit so points would pile up. Fury would either get a corner stoppage or win on points. AJ would probably get stopped unless he came out early throwing hard shots and as a Wilder fan I'm saying it's a toss up until I see how he looks against Helenius. He took some tough beatings in the last couple fights. if usyk was the same height an reach a sjoyce id probably say so but im telling you joyce is a big 19 stoe guy usyk was in touble with AJ but AJ got stamina issues and joyce wont he'll come on stronger, bit like how froch use too wilder will KO helenious qwith a power punch even with his weaker hand lool :boxing:

Good observation in seeing some Carl Froch in Joyce. Too big. Too strong.

hey so anyone eles noticed that the juggernaut hardly marks up? i mean he took a fair few shots but his face looked fine i like that joyce is game, he comes to fight and knows how to use his size and weight like fury and like any heavyweight shoud with height and reach advantages one thing i feel for his height and reach he needs to work on his defence especially that over hand right as he's open to it all night long against AJ and Wilder he has a chance but if he can eat their best shots, i see him having a chance against AJ as if AJ doesnt get in out within 2-3 rounds worth of power shots he will grind AJ down, maul him and stop him Wilder i think would stop joyce as he can hurt anyone and hes very unorthodox so would be hard to prepare for those looping wild shots fromall sorts of angles and one saying comes to mind is that statement of Wilders, where he says somethig along the lines of 'you have to perfect for 12 rounds and i have to be perfect for 2 seconds', what i will say though is that if wilder doesnt take him out joyce will grind him down and wear him out fury did too now with Usyk i really think joyce would do the things that AJ shouldve done and that was use his height and reach, power and engine usyk is skillful, elusive and got good footwork but i really can joyce mauling him, and breaking him with that jab all over the body like he did against parker and i love usyk but i dont think his power will trouble joyce one bit and usyk would only be able to win due to output and on points Fury is too skillful, hits hard, good chin, technically better and just an all rounder would be too much for joyce but joyce would be game, could see late stoppage or points win for fury but not sure how entertaining it would be as it would be a bit mor of a technical fight unless joyce can make it into a scrap could even see it being a shut out like how fury versus whyte was you know the funny thing is the juggernaut reminds me of carl froch, as used to say people say hes very slow flat footed and not good technially, and they'd beat them easily etc but they were a match for most opponents albeit apart from andre ward for froch, either way they both got great chins, hearts, power and are just game, their amateur pedigree gets down talked and are underrated only thing i'd say is that froch was at super middleweight and at heavyweight i dont think you can keep depending on your chin as it only takes one from a bit heavyweight to put your lights out im interested to hear your lots thoughts on this? Fury won't fight Joyce. Not because he scared of him, rather he can't get in the shape he needs to win. Joyce would butcher Wilder. Ko inside of six rounds. Usyk would beat Joyce 8 rounds to 4, easily. An interesting guy.

Good observation in seeing some Carl Froch in Joyce.

hey so anyone eles noticed that the juggernaut hardly marks up? i mean he took a fair few shots but his face looked fine i like that joyce is game, he comes to fight and knows how to use his size and weight like fury and like any heavyweight shoud with height and reach advantages one thing i feel for his height and reach he needs to work on his defence especially that over hand right as he's open to it all night long against AJ and Wilder he has a chance but if he can eat their best shots, i see him having a chance against AJ as if AJ doesnt get in out within 2-3 rounds worth of power shots he will grind AJ down, maul him and stop him Wilder i think would stop joyce as he can hurt anyone and hes very unorthodox so would be hard to prepare for those looping wild shots fromall sorts of angles and one saying comes to mind is that statement of Wilders, where he says somethig along the lines of 'you have to perfect for 12 rounds and i have to be perfect for 2 seconds', what i will say though is that if wilder doesnt take him out joyce will grind him down and wear him out fury did too now with Usyk i really think joyce would do the things that AJ shouldve done and that was use his height and reach, power and engine usyk is skillful, elusive and got good footwork but i really can joyce mauling him, and breaking him with that jab all over the body like he did against parker and i love usyk but i dont think his power will trouble joyce one bit and usyk would only be able to win due to output and on points Fury is too skillful, hits hard, good chin, technically better and just an all rounder would be too much for joyce but joyce would be game, could see late stoppage or points win for fury but not sure how entertaining it would be as it would be a bit mor of a technical fight unless joyce can make it into a scrap could even see it being a shut out like how fury versus whyte was you know the funny thing is the juggernaut reminds me of carl froch, as used to say people say hes very slow flat footed and not good technially, and they'd beat them easily etc but they were a match for most opponents albeit apart from andre ward for froch, either way they both got great chins, hearts, power and are just game, their amateur pedigree gets down talked and are underrated only thing i'd say is that froch was at super middleweight and at heavyweight i dont think you can keep depending on your chin as it only takes one from a bit heavyweight to put your lights out im interested to hear your lots thoughts on this? Solid post and I agree with most of it. I think Usyk outboxes Joyce and wins wide. The dude takes a good shot to be the smaller man and Joyce is there to be hit so points would pile up. Fury would either get a corner stoppage or win on points. AJ would probably get stopped unless he came out early throwing hard shots and as a Wilder fan I'm saying it's a toss up until I see how he looks against Helenius. He took some tough beatings in the last couple fights.