Joyce is the problem for all guys

Joyce easily stops Ruiz, and we'll see how Wilder looks after his two KO losses, but I think Joyce breaks down Wilder.

Joyce is 37 years old and rushes forward with his hands low head leaning forward and just eats whatever shots come at him to close the distance. This works on uber drivers but will get him destoryed at the elite level. Wilder will spark him out and usyk will side step him and counter at angles. Fury will wear his ass down and stamina check him late rounds So Parker is uber driver now? I think Joyce beats Usyk the same way he did it with Parker.

If Fury wins it’ll be with a lead right, clinch, break, right again - rinse and repeat. He’s the only dude that will be bigger than Joyce and can tie him up and spoil him. He’s not necessarily stronger but could still make his size work for him. He’s not going to try and box and move.

In his defense, Usyk and his team were in preliminary talks with Joyce and his team about fighting for an eliminator bout when Joshua-Fury for the undisputed championship seemed like a sure thing. If everyone remembers, Fury-Joshua was going to be a two fight series with a mandatory rematch, so Usyk wanted a HW fight, and Joyce was #1 until Usyk moved up and bumped him as the mandatory. When Wilder won his court case for the rematch with Fury, Joshua signed for Usyk. So I do not think Usyk would be scared to Joyce. I am with you he may not deem it worth the risk for the money as he is closer to the end of his career than the prime of it. Joyce is a man. A serious threat to everyone. But he is who he is, and thinking fighters could figure out how to frustrate him and beat him with cleaner shots. But Heaven above needs to save a place for the fighter that gets caught clean by Joyce after he wears you down. He punches UGLY. Hurts to watch it. that guy is a retard why would usyk be scared of someone he already beat

Joyce is 37 years old and rushes forward with his hands low head leaning forward and just eats whatever shots come at him to close the distance. This works on uber drivers but will get him destoryed at the elite level. Wilder will spark him out and usyk will side step him and counter at angles. Fury will wear his ass down and stamina check him late rounds

Joyce is a high risk fight, Usyk, Fury , Wilder and Joshua won`t fight him. I think Joyce will be promoted to the real WBO champ next year. Usyk ( or Usyk -Fury winner, if that fight ever happens) will rather vacate his belt than fight him. In his defense, Usyk and his team were in preliminary talks with Joyce and his team about fighting for an eliminator bout when Joshua-Fury for the undisputed championship seemed like a sure thing. If everyone remembers, Fury-Joshua was going to be a two fight series with a mandatory rematch, so Usyk wanted a HW fight, and Joyce was #1 until Usyk moved up and bumped him as the mandatory. When Wilder won his court case for the rematch with Fury, Joshua signed for Usyk. So I do not think Usyk would be scared to Joyce. I am with you he may not deem it worth the risk for the money as he is closer to the end of his career than the prime of it. Joyce is a man. A serious threat to everyone. But he is who he is, and thinking fighters could figure out how to frustrate him and beat him with cleaner shots. But Heaven above needs to save a place for the fighter that gets caught clean by Joyce after he wears you down. He punches UGLY. Hurts to watch it.

'freak of nature' I love his jab, lands with consistency and he seems to put nothing on it but it 'busts face like a mace on a grape'

Joyce shows continuous improvement. Great stamina, chin and mixing his combinations. He is still sloppy on defense and a bit slow, but he has the tools to beat Joshua and Wilder. He could give Fury a run too, and it won’t be easy for Usyk. Parker was a good test and Joyce is now ready for whoever they put in front of him.

I don't think Fury is super strong for his size, who has he actually bulled inside the ring? USS Cunningham, Wilder. I don't think he was bulling Whyte, who could hardly move by the time he fought Fury. When Fury faces Joyce, or even Joshua. Fury is not going to be able to bull them, especially not Joyce. Joyce has greater physical strength, and his endurance is greater. I have already highlighted the data from Fury's fights at elite level. Fury & Joshua are very close on out-put and work rate, Joshua for the most part is out working Fury 'But for some reason Fury is classed as some sort of endurance machine'. So stylistically it is a really interesting fight. But I would still say right now, that Fury would find a way to win. Fury will be hitting Joyce that is for sure, as the rounds go by? He will be collecting points. It will probably be a very damaging fight. I think currently right now Fury will view Joyce, the same way Calzaghe viewed Froch. You are right and I agree. Joe Joyce has to be the strongest man in the heavyweight division right now. I can't see Tyson Fury attempting to tie, manhandle and rough him up like he did an undersized Deontay Wilder. It would prove to be a very difficult task because Joyce is massively huge and a relentless body puncher with a granite chin. Unlike Wilder he moves his hands and never stops throwing punches. So something has to land, Moreover, he throws them in bunches which is very rare for a heavyweight his size.

He’s a tough nights work for anyone, even Tyson Fury. Joyce didn’t even get out of second gear against Parker, he’s a bad man

Best thing about Joyce is that heavy jab. With that he can give even Fury trouble, break him down, bloody him up to put him in position to offload his heavier punches later. Fury is big but has a peanut head. His chin might be overrated because of Wilder’s reputation, and I’m curious how he’d handle an actual battle of attrition.

Well you may be right. However, I do know that Joyce won't make it easy for Tyson Fury due to his stamina, chin and volume punching. He never stops throwing punches. This guy is capable of walking through the flood gates of Hell and back. I still can't figure out how he was able to absorb and walk through all of those heavy shots by Joseph Parker without so much as flinching. Parker hit him harder than any other opponent I've ever seen and yet the man remained in front of him all night. He threw everything at him and still couldn't fight Joyce off of him. Sometimes it makes you wonder if he's even human. The man is very scary. It's almost like he is a monster or a freak of nature or something. I don't think Fury is super strong for his size, who has he actually bulled inside the ring? USS Cunningham, Wilder. I don't think he was bulling Whyte, who could hardly move by the time he fought Fury. When Fury faces Joyce, or even Joshua. Fury is not going to be able to bull them, especially not Joyce. Joyce has greater physical strength, and his endurance is greater. I have already highlighted the data from Fury's fights at elite level. Fury & Joshua are very close on out-put and work rate, Joshua for the most part is out working Fury 'But for some reason Fury is classed as some sort of endurance machine'. So stylistically it is a really interesting fight. But I would still say right now, that Fury would find a way to win. Fury will be hitting Joyce that is for sure, as the rounds go by? He will be collecting points. It will probably be a very damaging fight. I think currently right now Fury will view Joyce, the same way Calzaghe viewed Froch.

Wilder would connect and probably put him down but then he would lose stamina and lose the will to win and get broken down humiliatingly Either Wilder ices him early or Joyce drowns him late. Very intriguing matchup.

Well you may be right. However, I do know that Joyce won't make it easy for Tyson Fury due to his stamina, chin and volume punching. He never stops throwing punches. This guy is capable of walking through the flood gates of Hell and back. I still can't figure out how he was able to absorb and walk through all of those heavy shots by Joseph Parker without so much as flinching. Parker hit him harder than any other opponent I've ever seen and yet the man remained in front of him all night. He threw everything at him and still couldn't fight Joyce off of him. Sometimes it makes you wonder if he's even human. The man is very scary. It's almost like he is a monster or a freak of nature or something. Joyce will make him work but I just don’t see him winning many rounds. It’s a very difficult fight for Joyce stylistically.

He’s like a HW Froch. Poor technique, makes various fundamental errors, easy to hit etc etc but he has a granite chin, incredible toughness, a great engine and carries his power late into a fight. Fury has the size and boxing ability to neutralise him IMO. He’s a BIG problem for everyone else though. I’d love to see him fight Wilder, just to see how good that chin really is. Wilder would connect and probably put him down but then he would lose stamina and lose the will to win and get broken down humiliatingly

I doubt we'll see many guys calling him out.

Nah Fury is a lot faster, bigger in stature and has the better inside game so Joyce won’t be able to lean on him and wear him down like he did to Parker. He beats Joyce handily. Using angles is the way to beat Joyce because he comes forward in straight lines. Fury would do that. I’d also pick Usyk to beat him too, but it’s a much bigger ask for Usyk as he has to cope with the size mismatch. I can see Joyce winning that one, I can’t see him beating Fury though.Well you may be right. However, I do know that Joyce won't make it easy for Tyson Fury due to his stamina, chin and volume punching. He never stops throwing punches. This guy is capable of walking through the flood gates of Hell and back. I still can't figure out how he was able to absorb and walk through all of those heavy shots by Joseph Parker without so much as flinching. Parker hit him harder than any other opponent I've ever seen and yet the man remained in front of him all night. He threw everything at him and still couldn't fight Joyce off of him. Sometimes it makes you wonder if he's even human. The man is very scary. It's almost like he is a monster or a freak of nature or something.

Nah Fury is a lot faster, bigger in stature and has the better inside game so Joyce won’t be able to lean on him and wear him down like he did to Parker. He beats Joyce handily. Using angles is the way to beat Joyce because he comes forward in straight lines. Fury would do that. I’d also pick Usyk to beat him too, but it’s a much bigger ask for Usyk as he has to cope with the size mismatch. I can see Joyce winning that one, I can’t see him beating Fury though.Well you may be right. However, I do know that Joyce won't make it easy for Tyson Fury due to his stamina, chin and volume punching. He never stops throwing punches. This guy is capable of walking through the flood gates of Hell and back. I still can't figure out how he was able to absorb and walk through all of those heavy shots by Joseph Parker without so much as flinching. Parker hit him harder than any other opponent he has ever faced and yet the man remained in front of him all night. He threw everything at him and still couldn't fight Joyce off of him. Sometimes it makes you wonder if he's even human.

He would give Fury Hell even if he does decide to fight off the back foot like he did against Klitschko because Joyce is a volume puncher. He would be in Fury's chest all night long throwing punches. Also, "The Juggernaut" is a very underrated body puncher also. Historically, volume puncher's have always fared well against graceful boxers. Klitschko and Wilder in Wilder/Fury I were boxer/sluggers. Which mean they mostly threw jabs with very low punch volumes just in order to land single hard punches at a time. Nah Fury is a lot faster, bigger in stature and has the better inside game so Joyce won’t be able to lean on him and wear him down like he did to Parker. He beats Joyce handily. Using angles is the way to beat Joyce because he comes forward in straight lines. Fury would do that. I’d also pick Usyk to beat him too, but it’s a much bigger ask for Usyk as he has to cope with the size mismatch. I can see Joyce winning that one, I can’t see him beating Fury though.

He doesn't beat every heavyweight but yes, he will be a difficult night for all of them.