Too much is put into how many wins the older generations had. 80% of the wins of many of the greats are against people with terrible records. I mean, really, imagine if Tyson Fury beat Tom Little, Terrell Jamal Woods, Roberto White, and Juan Torres over the course of a month. Another 4 wins for his record, but he'd be seen as a joke online, would get zero credit for the wins, and the fights would not sell out a garden shed.
Julio Cesar Chavez when he was around 90-0, at least 80 of those fights were against Z-level opposition. Different times of course, but people so often bring up the volume of victories like it has relevance. Chavez could have got to 50000-0 fighting that calibre of guys, just like any, even C-level guy today could.
It's much more impressive to fight at world-level, lose, but give a great account of yourself, example, Shawn Porter. Cash in.
Boxing used to be like other sports in that guys fought great fights, but they fought terrible fights too, the same way the Golden State Warriors will play the Celtics one night and the Knicks the next night.
It's really the best way to run a sport, as opposed to only competing against the absolute best of the best once or twice a year.
You need what mismatches here and there to give guys a chance to try new things the same way college football coaches try new things when they're playing some no hoper Division III school.
Boxing is a lot more promoter and fighter friendly today, but a lot less fan & sport friendly
Fighters back then were going into fights, probably not 100% 'Due to injuries not fitness'. But that was the fighting culture back then.
I think you know the answer as to why fighters have more time in between fights these days. Preparation, promotion and the business side of things.
There have been quick turn around in the modern game, I always thought Chris Eubank Senior vs Carl Thompson was a quick turn around, especially after Eubank Senior's eye injury 'He eye damage again in the rematch'.
I think it was a quick turn around after a brutal fight.
Note: There was no weight draining culture back then as well. Due to the same day weigh in rule, there was effectively no weight draining. Which in my opinion was better for the fighters overall 'Better for the sport, because the competition was more pure'.
They fought to make money. Fighters weren't getting paid as much, so they took soft touches in between their real challengers. If you took away all those type of fights, fighters from the older generations would have a similar record and fight count to modern fighters.
Robinson wasn't fighting guys like Jake Lamotta every week.
Because old timers in olden days fought so regularly. To equal that modern fighters shouldn't fight soft touches. I mean if your career is only 40 or 50 fights, you'd better be challenging yourself
He fought often because he had to fight to make money. Nowadays you can avoid top 10 contenders for years like Deontay and Tank and still make big enough money.
Training takes it toll. As does cutting weight since a lot of guys are draining themselves a lot more than men used to in those times. Also just a general risk vs reward type thing. No one wants to take an early L that is easily avoidable by being well prepared. People fight a lot more frequently early in their careers progressing through various cans until they get to live opponents then the pace of their schedule inevitably slows down as they look for more meaningful fights. Just how things have gone for a while now.
Boxing will let a person know what's up. There is no room for delusions of grandeur. No matter how great a mug thinks he is, the sport will wake him the fck up to reality.
A person can eventually live with the fact he will not be a star. That if he can just keep going at it as often as possible, that's good enough. Losing can serve a purpose.
I know, there will always be Khan's around who swear they are the ATG
His mouth and insipid fan base fed into his nonsense.
Most marginal fighters won't have nearly the talent or following Khan had.
Training, cutting weight ?
Not necessary for a mug.
Why do stars today need to take off 4-6 months between fights where they didn't even take that much damage?
You cannot fight top liners once a week, that tells the class he was beating.
How would you feel if crawford were to fight a guy that's 7-16 this week than fight a guy that's 6-10 next week?
These fights wont even be sanctioned today.
Training takes it toll. As does cutting weight since a lot of guys are draining themselves a lot more than men used to in those times. Also just a general risk vs reward type thing. No one wants to take an early L that is easily avoidable by being well prepared. People fight a lot more frequently early in their careers progressing through various cans until they get to live opponents then the pace of their schedule inevitably slows down as they look for more meaningful fights. Just how things have gone for a while now.
Look at those opponents resume (I know....the dreaded R word :( )....
Is it worth fighting so many nobodies, stiffs and tomato cans ?!?!?
If a boxer needs the money, I guess fighting once a week is great.
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