Is Devin Haney the ultimate lightweight or does he get smashed by any of the other lightweights? (Feel free to post your answer too, if you want to add further detail.)
- - Heinie still squallin' over not being P4P?
Kambo gonna make him squall some more.
We'll see. I think that the fight will actually be much more competitive, to be honest. Kambosos is going to make a stink about clinching in this coming up fight, and will definitely be going over it with the judge. He's also going to be taking risks, going for broke. So I expect that we see Haney really have to fight this time. But in the converse, I believe Kambosos could hit the canvass if he's too aggressive. Even though Haney has pillow fists, Kambosos can still walk into a shot but jumping in. We'll see.
You idiot. That's the point.
Kambosos made the list after 1 fight. And so did Haney.
your dumb ass saying 1 win ain't enough. And I gave you proof of 1 win being enough.
meaning what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Log off and go pray that kambosos brings 299 spartans with him next month. You Devin Haney hater
Hahahaha. That doesn't make any damn sense you moron. There would be no reason to bring up Kambosos. Your comment would make no sense in the context of the this thread and what was being discussed.That phrase is used to point out disparate treatment and hypocrisy in treatment, not to shine a light on fairness. You're such a dumb ass. Try as you might to save face, you can't. You're an idiot and everyone can see it. And just so you know, I'm hoping that Devin Haney wins. I'm praying that Haney takes Kambosos out because I want him to fight Loma afterward. That's the fight I want.
And you know what that means? That you were wrong again!!! :lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1:
That was my original post, which said that Haney would have to beat a pound for pound champion in order to get on the list after one fight when he wasn't on there before. I think said that's what Bivol did to get on the list. I also pointed out that Loma never got on the list after beating his first champion, that it took him several years after that to get on the list. You then responded to by saying this, which incorporates the above:
What's good for the goods is good for the gander means what's good for one person should be good for the other, which is a direct statement saying that because Kambosos was on the list after one win, then Haney should be on the list too after one win. That's what you said here.
I then say that I haven't seen a pound for pound list with Kambosos on it. You find the DAZN's pound for pound list that had Kambosos ranked on it. I look up that list, and that list has Devin Haney on it, which means you have no argument because Haney is on that list. The goose and the gander are receiving equal treatment!! You have no argument. You're done. I put you in a coffin and buried you six feet under. End of.
Are you actually ******ed? You have brain damage or something? Seriously, what's wrong with you?
You idiot. That's the point.
Kambosos made the list after 1 fight. And so did Haney.
your dumb ass saying 1 win ain't enough. And I gave you proof of 1 win being enough.
meaning what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Log off and go pray that kambosos brings 299 spartans with him next month. You Devin Haney hater
Show me where I ever said Haney isn't on a list
You keep making **** up
Yeah. This is making the rounds lately. I think it comes down to the number of fights he's had against top level competition. He beat one champion. And because everyone is brining up Lomachenko, let's see if Loma was on the P4P list when he beat his first champion.
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1
Floyd Mayweather Jr.
47–0 (26 KO)
Welterweight
WBA (Unified), WBC, and The Ring
Light middleweight
WBA (Super), WBC, and The Ring
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2
Wladimir Klitschko
63–3 (53 KO)
Heavyweight
WBA (Super), IBF, WBO, and The Ring
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3
Manny Pacquiao
57–5–2 (38 KO)
Welterweight
WBO
–
4
Andre Ward
27–0 (14 KO)
Super middleweight
WBA (Super) and The Ring
+2
5
Román González
41–0 (35 KO)
Flyweight
WBC and The Ring
+2
6
Guillermo Rigondeaux
14–0 (9 KO)
Super bantamweight
WBA (Super), WBO, and The Ring
-2
7
Timothy Bradley
31–1 (12 KO)
Welterweight
–
-2
8
Juan Manuel Márquez
56–7–1 (40 KO)
Welterweight
–
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9
Carl Froch
33–2 (24 KO)
Super middleweight
IBF
–
10
Canelo Álvarez
44–1–1 (31 KO)
Light middleweight
–
Nope. No Lomachenko on the P4P list.
What about in 2015?
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1
Floyd Mayweather Jr.
47–0 (26 KO)
Welterweight
WBA (Unified), WBC, and The Ring
Light middleweight
WBA (Super), WBC, and The Ring
–
2
Wladimir Klitschko
63–3 (53 KO)
Heavyweight
WBA (Super), IBF, WBO, and The Ring
–
3
Manny Pacquiao
57–5–2 (38 KO)
Welterweight
WBO
+1
4
Román González
41–0 (35 KO)
Flyweight
WBC and The Ring
+1
5
Guillermo Rigondeaux
15–0 (10 KO)
Super bantamweight
WBA (Super), WBO, and The Ring
+1
6
Timothy Bradley
31–1 (12 KO)
Welterweight
–
+1
7
Juan Manuel Márquez
56–7–1 (40 KO)
Welterweight
–
+1
8
Carl Froch
33–2 (24 KO)
Super middleweight
–
+1
9
Canelo Álvarez
44–1–1 (31 KO)
Light middleweight
–
New
10
Gennady Golovkin
31–0 (28 KO)
Middleweight
WBA (Super)
Nope. No Lomachenko.
What about when Loma won his second world title in a new weight division?
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1
Román González
45–0 (38 KO)
Flyweight
WBC and The Ring
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2
Sergey Kovalev
29–0–1 (26 KO)
Light heavyweight
WBA (Undisputed), IBF, and WBO
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3
Gennady Golovkin
35–0 (32 KO)
Middleweight
WBA (Super), WBC, and IBF
–
4
Andre Ward
29–0 (15 KO)
Light heavyweight
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–
5
Guillermo Rigondeaux
16–0 (10 KO)
Super bantamweight
WBA (Super)
–
6
Terence Crawford
28–0 (20 KO)
Light welterweight
WBO
New
7
Vasiliy Lomachenko
6–1 (4 KO)
Super featherweight
WBO
-1
8
Canelo Álvarez
47–1–1 (33 KO)
Middleweight
The Ring
-1
9
Shinsuke Yamanaka
25–0–2 (17 KO)
Bantamweight
WBC
-1
10
Naoya Inoue
10–0 (8 KO)
Super flyweight
WBO
Ah ha. Multweight Division champion.
So maybe if Devin moves up and captures another title, he'll make it on there. He can of course do what Bivol did and fight a current Pound for Pound fighter, that being Lomachenko. That would get him on the list.
That was my original post, which said that Haney would have to beat a pound for pound champion in order to get on the list after one fight when he wasn't on there before. I think said that's what Bivol did to get on the list. I also pointed out that Loma never got on the list after beating his first champion, that it took him several years after that to get on the list. You then responded to by saying this, which incorporates the above:
Kambosos was on the p4p list off one win and he wasn't undisputed.
What's good for the goose is also good for the gander
What's good for the goods is good for the gander means what's good for one person should be good for the other, which is a direct statement saying that because Kambosos was on the list after one win, then Haney should be on the list too after one win. That's what you said here.
I then say that I haven't seen a pound for pound list with Kambosos on it. You find the DAZN's pound for pound list that had Kambosos ranked on it. I look up that list, and that list has Devin Haney on it, which means you have no argument because Haney is on that list. The goose and the gander are receiving equal treatment!! You have no argument. You're done. I put you in a coffin and buried you six feet under. End of.
Are you actually retarded? You have brain damage or something? Seriously, what's wrong with you?
That's right. And I showed you that same list with Haney on it when you said there wasn't one. :owned:
Show me where I ever said Haney isn't on a list
You keep making shit up
I showed you a list with kambosos on it. Just like you asked me too goofy
That's right. And I showed you that same list with Haney on it when you said there wasn't one. :owned:
Based on the fact that Haney isn't on a P4P list!!! I said one win doesn't get Haney on a P4P list you ****ing moron.
You then replied with this:
You're saying that Haney should be on the P4P list. Then you show me a list with Haney on it!!!! You ****ING MORON!! You have one brain cell in your head and not even that works!!!
I'm done and so are you because I sent you straight to hell.
I showed you a list with kambosos on it. Just like you asked me too goofy
Right now Loma is a stylistic nightmare for Haney. I do think he beats Haney. As far as the rest of the group I think there are other guys who may come up from the rear and suprise us all... IMO Isaac Cruz is that dark horse here. Cruz is the only real pressure fighter in the group. I think he beat Tank... More to the point I think a pressure guy is a direct contra indication for a boxer puncher who wants to fight in the center of the ring. At this point I would put Cruz and Haney as the two front runners... they are the youngest, most willing to fight anyone, and seem to have developed the most chops as compared to the others: Loma would probably lose to Cruz though.
Tank potshots.
Ryan is fragile
Lopez is the first guy to get his man strength and move up in weight... he looked good not great imo.
havent seen Shakir enough...
Haney shuts Loma down...his understanding of distance and not to mention having one of the top five jab (& jab selection) in boxing neutralizes anything Loma brings to the table.
Really? When and where? Can you post a link or reference? I never have seen Kambosos on ANY pound for pound list
These are your words goofy. This is what you asked me. And I responded with a list.
You're a idiot. You don't even remember what you're arguing about
Based on the fact that Haney isn't on a P4P list!!! I said one win doesn't get Haney on a P4P list you fucking moron.
You then replied with this:
Kambosos was on the p4p list off one win and he wasn't undisputed.
What's good for the goose is also good for the gander
You're saying that Haney should be on the P4P list. Then you show me a list with Haney on it!!!! You FUCKING MORON!! You have one brain cell in your head and not even that works!!!
I'm done and so are you because I sent you straight to hell.
Are you being dense on purpose because your ego can't handle being embarrassed? What is this ****? Why are you even telling me that one win got Kambosos on the P4P list? I'll answer. Because I said Haney is not on the P4P list because one win doesn't get you there. So we're are talking about Haney not being on the P4P list. And just as I previously said in my last post, you find me a pound for pound list where Haney is on it after one win. So why the FŪČK are you bringing up Kambosos?!?! Why the FŪČK are you doing that when you could have said, "Look Haney's on a P4P list"?
Enough.
Really? When and where? Can you post a link or reference? I never have seen Kambosos on ANY pound for pound list
These are your words goofy. This is what you asked me. And I responded with a list.
You're a idiot. You don't even remember what you're arguing about
wtf are you talking about. I never said Haney isn't on a p4p list.
you said 1 win doesn't get you on the p4p list and I replied 1 win got kambosos on the p4p list
Are you being dense on purpose because your ego can't handle being embarrassed? What is this shit? Why are you even telling me that one win got Kambosos on the P4P list? I'll answer. Because I said Haney is not on the P4P list because one win doesn't get you there. So we're are talking about Haney not being on the P4P list. And just as I previously said in my last post, you find me a pound for pound list where Haney is on it after one win. So why the FŪČK are you bringing up Kambosos?!?! Why the FŪČK are you doing that when you could have said, "Look Haney's on a P4P list"?
Enough.
And you said Haney's not on any P4P list, then proceed to find a pound for pound list with Haney on it. :rolleyes:
wtf are you talking about. I never said Haney isn't on a p4p list.
you said 1 win doesn't get you on the p4p list and I replied 1 win got kambosos on the p4p list.
You asked me can I post a p4p list with kambosos on it. I did.
nowhere did I mention Haney name goofy
We're talking about the Ring P4P list really. But okay. Cool. You bring up DAZN. Haney is on that list dummy!!!
Haney Makes Pound For Pound List
So what are you talking about here?! Come on man. What is this garbage?
You asked me about kambosos goofy
I mean there is no real p4p list. There are called opinionated
https://www.dazn.com/en-AU/news/boxing/george-kambosos-jr-stephen-fulton-jr-make-pound-for-pound-debuts-amid-big-changes-on-dazns-mens-rankings-list/170ct4bwgnvod14cubxkgszjcu
We're talking about the Ring P4P list really. But okay. Cool. You bring up DAZN. Haney is on that list dummy!!!
Haney Makes Pound For Pound List
So what are you talking about here?! Come on man. What is this garbage?