He’s humble ( one post fight interview doesn’t change that) handsome and WAS and exciting fighter to watch. Why now does everyone diss him ? The only reason I can think why is because of his Pro-Black speech in 2020
almost everything about him was Hearn's PR team creation. He got his first belt from Charles Martin, who got his belt because his opponent was injured during their fight and then quickly sold it to Eddy. Went life and death with old Wlad, who's streak had already been stopped by Fury. Matched with old and/or slow fighters, that he easily KO'd. Easy to do with this weak HW era. Brit media establishment hailed him as an ATG talent, and Brit casuals were eating it right up, believing the hype. Got embarrassingly exposed by Ruiz jr. In the rematch he ran from an obese immobile Ruiz jr, Brits proclaimed Joshua as some slick boxer, when any in shape HW could've easily done what Joshua did in their rematch. Got beat by a CW twice and his mask came off, childish temper tantrum, he was not the humble person that Hearn's PR team had coached him. Don't hate Joshua as a person, he actually seems like a good guy, but his boxing persona was heavily manufactured which I am not a fan of.
You have a agenda.
How many boxers would of knocked out Wladimir Kiltschko, when Joshua fought him? I don't think there was any active fighter in the division who would of beaten Kiltschko.
Kiltschko was also 240 pounds solid, and he has endured three back to back training camps.
Wladimir Kiltschko vs Anthony Joshua was the greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 20 years.
Povetkin, again another fighter who not many fighters would of beaten at the time.
Ruiz Junior whether he is in shape or not, is well always not really in condition. But he is dangerous fighter. Would you of beaten the Andy Ruiz Junior who Joshua faced in the rematch? No. Is there anyone online in this forum who would beat the fighters on Joshua's resume? No.
You are aware that, boxing is a very real sport mate ? Once you step inside the ring, it is real? It is not WWE wrestling?
Anthony Joshua has had to face the worlds top fighters, that is a fact of reality 'Check his record'. And he has beaten many of the worlds top heavyweights.
I think people are well aware that he is not on the level of Lennox Lewis, and he has never been promoted as a all-time great.
We are now in a new Chapter of his boxing story, he is still here mate. He fought Usyk twice, went the distance, hurt him in both fights 'But yes for sure he was well beaten 100%'.
Nothing has been exposed, I want you to understand that. In all sports, some teams and some athletes win, and then sometimes they lose. And in life, it is exactly the same.
That is all apart of the journey, all apart of the adventure, all apart of the battle.
Anthony Joshua is no longer a champion, he is now a contender again. Like 90% of the active boxers in the sport.
almost everything about him was Hearn's PR team creation. He got his first belt from Charles Martin, who got his belt because his opponent was injured during their fight and then quickly sold it to Eddy. Went life and death with old Wlad, who's streak had already been stopped by Fury. Matched with old and/or slow fighters, that he easily KO'd. Easy to do with this weak HW era. Brit media establishment hailed him as an ATG talent, and Brit casuals were eating it right up, believing the hype. Got embarrassingly exposed by Ruiz jr. In the rematch he ran from an obese immobile Ruiz jr, Brits proclaimed Joshua as some slick boxer, when any in shape HW could've easily done what Joshua did in their rematch. Got beat by a CW twice and his mask came off, childish temper tantrum, he was not the humble person that Hearn's PR team had coached him. Don't hate Joshua as a person, he actually seems like a good guy, but his boxing persona was heavily manufactured which I am not a fan of.
- - U got U single IQ point from yer dad and should be thankful U got that much.
almost everything about him was Hearn's PR team creation. He got his first belt from Charles Martin, who got his belt because his opponent was injured during their fight and then quickly sold it to Eddy. Went life and death with old Wlad, who's streak had already been stopped by Fury. Matched with old and/or slow fighters, that he easily KO'd. Easy to do with this weak HW era. Brit media establishment hailed him as an ATG talent, and Brit casuals were eating it right up, believing the hype. Got embarrassingly exposed by Ruiz jr. In the rematch he ran from an obese immobile Ruiz jr, Brits proclaimed Joshua as some slick boxer, when any in shape HW could've easily done what Joshua did in their rematch. Got beat by a CW twice and his mask came off, childish temper tantrum, he was not the humble person that Hearn's PR team had coached him. Don't hate Joshua as a person, he actually seems like a good guy, but his boxing persona was heavily manufactured which I am not a fan of.
I think we should dispense with this modern conception of "hate", it's infantilising. Rappers made it popular, talking about imaginary "haters". No one cares that much, they just don't like certain people. Plus, on the internet, people are more provocative which gets perceived as "hate".
its just a term people use, its clearly understood & one word & if u are on the receiving end of it it feels like exactly that too
the thing about hate is that u tend to focus on the hate that fighters u like get and then end up hating the fighters whos fans are hating the guys u like & on top of that u downplay or dont even notice the hate that fighters u dont like get because thats how the brain works since u agree with some or all of that hate and like seeing it expressed so its not even classed as hate to u, just the truth
Joshua deserves a lot of credit for what he has done in boxing but I feel people just preferred Tyson's Fury more direct style . There's a lot of sponsorship involved with Joshua (a part of him wanted to maintain a image and you can't blame him) and he has been Sky's boxing golden boy for so long . Now that isn't the case from a wider field and it hurt him hence the post fight Uysk meltdown. Eg he isn't top dog no more in boxing. I understand and sympathise Joshua was under a lot of pressure for so long though and fair play to him he didn't duck many fights. Still wished he would of fought Wilder though around 2 years back. Like anything nothing is perfect and Iam glad Joshua apologized for his actions.
sssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttttttttt you doing reverse psychology on us? Betch a 3 time loser now and everyone sucking up to him.
You don’t think race plays a role ? the only thing people can relate to Fury is his body shape. He’s literally a giant at 6’8 and he is cocky and a loudmouth when most Black fighters keep it real like Fury they are called classless and disrespectful and thugs
Maybe with some people, but that is life 'It is not this way with all people'.
Notice on here, how threads were made with people saying 'His mask has slipped'.
Quick everyone, we have got him 'Look his mask as slipped' Pathetic.
Well yes and what did it reveal? A murderer? I have no idea what those people think they have exposed? I would like somebody to quote me and tell me what was exposed?
Should Anthony Joshua now be in arrested and put in jail, now that the real Joshua has shown up?
I have seen plenty of comments online with lemmings saying things like 'Now we see the real Anthony Joshua'.
Yes so what is that? You have people on here, calling him a bully, saying he is not real. Who is he bullying, what is not real?
Lets get it straight, a group of men were giving him abuse in public. He confronted them, and told them how reality works.
Who here goes around on the streets, shouting abuse at people and other men? Is that how people act? Nobody goes around like that here, because the odds are eventually you will be met with violence.
There people on this forum, who were trying to convince me otherwise 'And yes they were men, they were not kids'.
I am adamant that Joshua is correct in confronting those cricket players or students. And Joshua was real with them, another man who is maybe having a bad day 'May have violently attacked them'.
It is obvious he has to have a certain conduct with all his sponsors.
This how some people, or athletes are held to higher standards. Again it may be down to what you have just brought up, but I am not going to conclusively state it is mate.
Anthony Joshua is held to a higher standard than any current UK fighter, or any fighter in the sport of boxing 'And it will continue'.
Tyson Fury is clearly not held to a very high standard. Fury like David Haye, has made sure that he removed himself from this level. He has made sure that, people understood that he is not really trying to be the 'Role Model they want him to be'. But in doing that, he can still be a role model to the people who have a rapport with him.
Fury has said by far, by MILES worst things than Anthony Joshua. It is only really recently, I have seen people starting to slightly disagree with Fury, for sometime? People within boxing were petrified to really criticized Fury since his comeback 'Hearn and some of his team were very blatantly with it on the weekend'.
I don't actually have a issue with Tyson Fury, but I can see that he is all over the place.
Honestly, I've never hated AJ all that much. He surprised me beating the older Klitschko but I didn't think much of him overall yet. His fans got SLIGHTLY annoying but they just looked at him like he was a Jordan or Lebron of boxing.
I find Fury fans the most annoying. They toted Wilder as the biggest bum and then when he beat Wilder, it's like his greatest win. So wtf gives? I then call Fury a fat f**k will skills that uses his size to his advantage and their cooch swells up. Like, I'm not saying anything untruthful here. He was nearly 280lbs when he fought Wilder. He's looked awesome against more so valid bums (Schwartz) and then they think he's the greatest coming since Ali. I liked Fury and his showmanship a lot. Just his fans are annoying as f**k.
It's mostly 90% Hearn and 10% his heart stateside.
When AJ was at his height and Wilder was destroying the division, AJ Said guarantee me 50M on film and I'll fight him with no problems. Well Hearn wasn't down with that, even after confirming Haymen did submit an offer guaranteeing Joshua the money. From that point on some fight fans really turned on AJ, because it was clear that either he or his promotor was never going to let that fight happen as long as he was winning. He's never lived that down, especially here in the states, even though most US fight fans respect his fighting skills. He's viewed as not having that DOG in him in the US. The general consensus is that he's real skilled, exciting most fights, but a questionable heart for wanting to fight the real threats.
It kind of feels like the same thing with Fury except for the fact that Fury hasn't really pushed to fight AJ to the levels that Wilder did. I think AJ sounds more confident when a fight with Fury comes up than a fight with Wilder.
Fury resonates with working class people more than Anthony Joshua. And there are more demographics some may like Fury, some may like Joshua.
People see themselves in Tyson Fury. Joshua seems above all of that. This is what people dislike.
David Haye seemed the same way at one point of his career 'But he never showed the vulnerabilities of Joshua, and if people criticized or hated on him? Well he seemed to revel in such atmosphere'.
People will look to bring these people down. Haye smartly removed himself, once upon a time he was on his way to being the hero, this ambassador that Joshua became.
Haye soon as people started to turn on him after the Kiltschko loss, became the dark night.
I am not a particular big Joshua fan to be honest. I was not devastated or anything when he lost on the weekend.
I was devastated when David Haye lost to Kiltschko, and I am still bothered by his loses to Tony Bellew.
People enjoy and liked hearing stories of Ricky Hatton boozing. I have even come across people who told me stories of Calzaghe joining them for moments on their nights out.
Joshua is above all of that.
Note: Tyson Fury has also shown that he is effected by criticism and people turning against him. But unlike Joshua, Fury seems to be able to move on. Right now, he holds nothing back 'He is authentic'. He has probably come to acceptance that, certain people are not going to like him.
Joshua needs to accept he needs to understand this below. Sometimes that is what you are dealing with in society.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnT0Fj-QZr0
You don’t think race plays a role ? the only thing people can relate to Fury is his body shape. He’s literally a giant at 6’8 and he is cocky and a loudmouth when most Black fighters keep it real like Fury they are called classless and disrespectful and thugs
I was devastated when David Haye lost to Kiltschko, and I am still bothered by his loses to Tony Bellew.
You fell for the haye spoof, i mean those bellew fights the very definition of ppv cash grabs, night time robbery even worse than daylight robbery
Demographics matter less than you think. AJ was for years vastly more popular than Fury, and earned a lot more, even after his first loss, in part because he is much better looking than Fury (obviously) - he had a Wembley fight long before Fury. Regarding discipline, you probably have a point.
Fury resonates with working class people more than Anthony Joshua. And there are more demographics some may like Fury, some may like Joshua.
People see themselves in Tyson Fury. Joshua seems above all of that. This is what people dislike.
David Haye seemed the same way at one point of his career 'But he never showed the vulnerabilities of Joshua, and if people criticized or hated on him? Well he seemed to revel in such atmosphere'.
People will look to bring these people down. Haye smartly removed himself, once upon a time he was on his way to being the hero, this ambassador that Joshua became.
Haye soon as people started to turn on him after the Kiltschko loss, became the dark night.
I am not a particular big Joshua fan to be honest. I was not devastated or anything when he lost on the weekend.
I was devastated when David Haye lost to Kiltschko, and I am still bothered by his loses to Tony Bellew.
People enjoy and liked hearing stories of Ricky Hatton boozing. I have even come across people who told me stories of Calzaghe joining them for moments on their nights out.
Joshua is above all of that.
Note: Tyson Fury has also shown that he is effected by criticism and people turning against him. But unlike Joshua, Fury seems to be able to move on. Right now, he holds nothing back 'He is authentic'. He has probably come to acceptance that, certain people are not going to like him.
Joshua needs to accept he needs to understand this below. Sometimes that is what you are dealing with in society.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnT0Fj-QZr0
- Cash cow
- Lots of casual fans
- British
- Associated with Hearn
- Fury and Wilder fans ****ting on him and then eventually uniting with each other to **** on him.
- - Flubber and Deyonce and their fans shyte upon each other to pronounce it gold.
Certain demographics cannot associate or build a rapport with Anthony Joshua. But when you see fighters like Ricky Hatton, and Tyson Fury. People can easily build a rapport with them, because they see traits in those fighters 'That they have themselves'
Demographics matter less than you think. AJ was for years vastly more popular than Fury, and earned a lot more, even after his first loss, in part because he is much better looking than Fury (obviously) - he had a Wembley fight long before Fury. Regarding discipline, you probably have a point.