Both coming off 2 straight losses to the same fighter. While Wilder was hurt a lot more in the fights against Fury than Joshua was vs Usyk, Wilder did drop Fury twice.
Both coming off 2 straight losses to the same fighter. While Wilder was hurt a lot more in the fights against Fury than Joshua was vs Usyk, Wilder did drop Fury twice.
Ahhhh, who cares NOW.
Just look at the skills. Usyke does three things very very well: He uses head movements, lateral movements and he pivots/resets. Andre Ward is an example of another expert Resetter. Ward always gets out of there after he catches his guy. For pivots? Dempsey, Tyson... I don't care about fame or name, I am purely looking at how the skills are utilized. I would say that usyk may have the best lateral movement in the division since Holmes. Yeah Holmes was amazing.
Gotcha :fing02:
If Usyk had more power....
Whoa, whoa, whoa the bold :lol1:
Let's not
Usyk is nice but, nah :boxing:
Just look at the skills. Usyke does three things very very well: He uses head movements, lateral movements and he pivots/resets. Andre Ward is an example of another expert Resetter. Ward always gets out of there after he catches his guy. For pivots? Dempsey, Tyson... I don't care about fame or name, I am purely looking at how the skills are utilized. I would say that usyk may have the best lateral movement in the division since Holmes. Yeah Holmes was amazing.
I always favored wilder and still do.
- - Rodger, Dodger, puddin'n pie, so that why Deyonce ducked the riches of AJ to fight for peanuts vs Flubber because that what peanut IQs do is it now.
Deyonce was born punch drunk is why U favor him as one punch drunk to another.
joshua, he actually improved for the rematch with usyk and is much better boxer than wildr (i know, is not hard to be a better boxer than wilder). he also packs a punch and even though wilder could KO him, that goes for any HW who takes a punch from deontay, in other words, wilder has a puncher's chance.
Wilder. Aj is way too gun shy now. The second Wilder touches him AJ will have Ruiz and Usyk flashback and stop throwing punches.....then once Wilder lands flush its over.
Joshua can box a bit, but he leaves himself open like he did vs Ruiz when he goes in for the kill, and we know Windmill doesn't stop windmilling until its over. What ever you want to say about Wilder, if he clips you, and you aren't Fury, you probably aren't getting back up. Joshua definitely doesn't have the fortitude to deal with the kind of adversity that you will encounter at some point against Wilder, unless you spark him out pretty quick.
I don't think Joshua can make it 12 rounds without getting clipped, and Im not sure he can be aggressive enough to go in there and get Wilder out of there without also getting clipped.
AJ would be a massive opponent upgrade for both Wilder and Fury.
AJ's boxing ability dwarfs Wilder's.
AJ's power dwarfs Fury's.
I have no doubt AJ beats Fury
With Wilder....it's a matter of AJ's self doubt crippling him -
''Uh oh....incoming power....'' and he freezes :dunno:
This is a tough one
Will AJ come in as a boxer or a puncher ?
AJ can ''box'' a bit but it's not what got him to where he is.
We all know Wilder only has 1 way of winning a fight and it works almost all of the time.
A cautious AJ loses, possibly goes to sleep.
A thoughtfully aggressive AJ would be able to beat Wilder.
Joshua can box a bit, but he leaves himself open like he did vs Ruiz when he goes in for the kill, and we know Windmill doesn't stop windmilling until its over. What ever you want to say about Wilder, if he clips you, and you aren't Fury, you probably aren't getting back up. Joshua definitely doesn't have the fortitude to deal with the kind of adversity that you will encounter at some point against Wilder, unless you spark him out pretty quick.
I don't think Joshua can make it 12 rounds without getting clipped, and Im not sure he can be aggressive enough to go in there and get Wilder out of there without also getting clipped.
usyk uses lateral movement. Hes fantastic but he does get hit. Compare him to larry Holmes. Holmes IMO and to many had the best lateral movement of any heavyweight. Wilder is that Gene Fullmer guy lol... He can't do this and he can't do that but when he does what he can "boy oh boy!"
Whoa, whoa, whoa the bold :lol1:
Let's not
Usyk is nice but, nah :boxing:
I pretty much always favored Wilder in this fight except possibly briefly after the first Wilder vs Fury fight.
AJ poor stamina, weak mentally, poor recovery, not busy enough.
Wilder got off the canvas more than once against Fury and went out on his shield, throwing with everything he had.
Cute.
Joshua got dropped hard by Klitchko and got up to win that fight...showing heart.
Compare that to Joshua, who was stopped by Ruiz spitting his mouthguard out and backing into his own corner, shaking his head with his hands down.
The ref stopped the fight, beside the mouthpiece coming out...everything else you said was make believe.
Wilder blamed his 1st loss to Fury on weak leg and a heavy suit...so Fury didn't beat him.
There is a whole lot of biased in this post Lmao.
Since when would Wilder outbox AJ when AJ was boxing well with a boxer like usyk.
Honestly if AJ figures out how to get past Wilders reach he can bombard him with hooks and uppercuts as Wilders defense in the worst ive seen.But wilder reach and right hand worries me as if it lands its over.
Tbh its whoever lands first so id give it 55-45 to Joshua because he is more skilled.
And haters can stfu they both have heart.Wilder showed it against Fury and Joshua showed it against klitschko.
In the end it would be a great fight