His most memorable fights were against Tony Tucker, Larry Holmes, Michael Spinks, Frank Bruno, James Douglas, Donovan Ruddock, Evander Holyfield, Andrew Golota, Brian Nielsen, and Lennox Lewis. IMO, I would give him a B- (3.5 stars). The rest of his resume are BUMS.
Tysons resume is better than marcianos but nobody would want to hear that. Out of 49 fights he only has 7 or so that mean anything. The rest of them were boxing on the side in their free time, complete bums. Tyson fought more full time qualified fighters in his first run by age of 25 than Marciano ever did in his entire career.
No doubt.
Bruno would go undefeated too if he fought who Rocky fought.
I just don't get how Tyson fans are oblivious to the facts.
He beat the least notable champs (did they even have a single defense before fighting Mike ?)
The 2 HOFers he beat were the worst versions of them
Tysons resume is better than marcianos but nobody would want to hear that. Out of 49 fights he only has 7 or so that mean anything. The rest of them were boxing on the side in their free time, complete bums. Tyson fought more full time qualified fighters in his first run by age of 25 than Marciano ever did in his entire career.
i also feel his wins over holmes and spinks are underrated. holmes later went the distance with holyfield, only lost by 2 or 3 rounds imo. and he later beat prime Mercer. I think Spinks gets underrated as a HW, him beating holmes 2x can't be overlooked.
I will quote myself....
''Winning is the key.''
Hence, I READ ALL OF YOUR COMMENT :)
Holmes and Spinks :lol1:
The absolute WORST VERSIONS
Hey, If Marciano can get props for beating Louis......
Tysons resume is better than marcianos but nobody would want to hear that. Out of 49 fights he only has 7 or so that mean anything. The rest of them were boxing on the side in their free time, complete bums. Tyson fought more full time qualified fighters in his first run by age of 25 than Marciano ever did in his entire career.
His resume is weaker, it is what it is. Some guys they make up for a weak era with longevity like wladimir. Tyson doesnt have longevity either. He came in cleared out the division was lineal and undisputed at a very early age. Had a gap in his prime taken from him like AIi but unlike Ali didnt win the lineal title back. And so that is why Ali is usually ranked 1-2 and Tyson somewhere at the end of top 10 or in top 15.
Tyson is so famous that guys will either overrate him or under rate him but i think end of the day he gets ranked appropriately.
Faced weak champs... which champions should he have beat? He could only beat the champions that were there.
Maybe he just made them look weak? That's what happens when you have a dominant champion.
Who is on his Mt Rushmore ?
His resume is average at best and overhyped.
If the question is just resume and not wins then his resume is ATG and A+ considering he fought 3 of the greatest heavies of all time in Holmes, Vander and Lewis while also fighting SPinks who was a tier below but a great fighter when taking into account his light heavy career (kind of like Bob Foster fighting Frazier and Ali) and of course several guys a tier below that like Ruddock, Bruno, Douglas etc.
In terms of wins, he only beat one atg heavyweight and thats Holmes who was well past it. He is 3-0 against Vander/Lewis.
A solid D
Way too many tomato cans
Faced the weakest bunch of champs
Lost to his only top tier opponents....SOUNDLY.
I can't think of anyone he beat that any other HW couldn't.
Who is on his Mt Rushmore :dunno:
Faced weak champs... which champions should he have beat? He could only beat the champions that were there.
Maybe he just made them look weak? That's what happens when you have a dominant champion.
Did I say beat or fought? Get rid of the wax. Spinks. That would make him 2-2. Maybe I'll just add Danny Garcia Keef Thurman and Errol Spence to the HofF since Keef believes they should be there based on their accolades. :rolleyes: Tyson is undisputed in a 3 belt era also but we'll pretend that didn't happen either. You must be Gen Z or a Millenial
I will quote myself....
''Winning is the key.''
Hence, I READ ALL OF YOUR COMMENT :)
Holmes and Spinks :lol1:
The absolute WORST VERSIONS
Hey, If Marciano can get props for beating Louis......
Besides Holmes (who was lounging on the sofa for almost 2 years)...what other HOFers did he beat ?
Winning is the key.
Did I say beat or fought? Get rid of the wax. Spinks. That would make him 2-2. Maybe I'll just add Danny Garcia Keef Thurman and Errol Spence to the HofF since Keef believes they should be there based on their accolades. :rolleyes: Tyson is undisputed in a 3 belt era also but we'll pretend that didn't happen either. You must be Gen Z or a Millenial
A little blip here and there but he fought who he was supposed to fight, just compare him to the nonsense that is going on in boxing now. A- (4 legit hall of fame fighters on his resume)
Besides Holmes (who was lounging on the sofa for almost 2 years)...what other HOFers did he beat ?
Winning is the key.
A solid D
Way too many tomato cans
Faced the weakest bunch of champs
Lost to his only top tier opponents....SOUNDLY.
I can't think of anyone he beat that any other HW couldn't.
Who is on his Mt Rushmore :dunno:
A little blip here and there but he fought who he was supposed to fight, just compare him to the nonsense that is going on in boxing now. A- (4 legit hall of fame fighters on his resume)
I'm way too lazy to look up the Ring Magazine rankings for all of his fights so I'll be lazy and just pick out world titlists:
W vs Alfosno Ratliff TKO 2
W vs Trevor Berbick TKO 2
W vs James Smith UD 12
W vs Pinklon Thomas TKO 6
W vs Tony Tucker UD 12
W vs Larry Holmes TKO 4
W vs Tony Tubbs TKO 2
W vs Michael Spinks KO 1
W vs Frank Bruno TKO 5
L vs Buster Douglas KO 10
W vs Frank Bruno TKO 3
W vs Bruce Seldon TKO 1
W vs Frans Botha KO 5 (technically Botha isn't recognized as champion since he was stripped for PEDs, but he did win a title in the ring)
L vs Evander Holyfield TKO 11
L vs Evander Holyfield DQ 3
NC vs Orlin Norris 1
L vs Lennox Lewis KO 8
Overall record against world titlists: 12-4-0-1 with 10 KO
Obviously some of these guys were cruiserweight titlists, not heavyweight titlists. And obviously some of them were washed up or weak titlists.
But nobody beats 12 world titlists by accident. I don't care who they are.
They more objective way to measure his resume would be to look at the Ring Magazine rankings for all of his fights but that's way too much work for a forum post.
It is easy to discredit his resume, when looking back in history.
But in the context of the time? He was beating the best fighters that were around, not just beating the obliterating them at times.
Who is doing that today? Nobody.
There are no active heavyweights active today, who are as great as Mike Tyson. As a fighter and definitely not as a Champion.
Tyson Fury has made 2 defenses of his Heavyweight titles, and has a total of 5 Championship fights.
Mike Tyson made 11 defenses of his Heavyweight titles, and has a total of 15 Championship fights.
Note: There was a thread, were a member here was claiming Tyson Fury as one of if not the greatest Heavyweight fighter of all times. I entered that thread and basically just listed the defenses and Championship fights of past Heavyweights 'Tyson Fury was miles off'.
Mike Tyson has 1 all-time great super elite win 'His Victory over Michael Spinks', and then he has a collection of world class wins as a champion.
I am debating whether to add Larry Holmes as a all-time great win, it probably is a underrated win for Mike Tyson 'Overlooked'.
Holmes years later was beating Ray Mercer, and going the distance with Evander Holyfield.
Mike Tyson doesn't have the greatest resume. He isn't one of the top 5 greatest heavyweights of all time. But one thing Mike Tyson is?
The most PHENOMENAL heavyweight of all time.
The 20 year old built like a bull who was knocking out men twice his size with incredibly fast, accurate and powerful punches and had an aura of invincibility which we have not seen before or since who had the entire world riveted by his ability and reputation, is enough to rank him high up in the history books.
It's hard to knock his resume when talking about the guys who had belts. At the end of the day, that's who he had to fight.
His defences were otherwise a bit underwhelming, but who would you want him to fight at those times? He only really missed Evander, Bowe and Lewis... and obviously fought two of them later and lost.
I still think it's a B. Beat who he needed to beat to become Undisputed.
How many have done that?
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