Is Crawford and Spence Generational Talents?

GGG, Tito, Vernon, and Ike Sorry for the late response. GGG, probably at one time. Tito had wins over Pernell, Oscar and Vargas. Vernon beat a prime Mosley twice and Quartey was never considered P4P #1 to my recollection. Like someone has already said, I'd favor all of these guys over Shawn Porter.

Crawford is. Spence is a really big and athletic welter fighting in a mid-tier division.

Terence Crawford yes, Errol Spence no

Well.... Crawford is from Omaha. He'd be bigger if he came from the hoods in Detroit It wouldn't matter. Ennis is from Detriot. When people take about him and Ortiz, it's about he hasn't fought anyone vs Ortiz fighting someone. This is a fan girl generation, afraid to see their favorite fighters get beat, not the fight generation. Ronnie Shields and Jermall Charlo call Andrade a nobody and get support for that foolishness. Worst generation ever!

This kind of crazy talk is why we can't get the fight. Imagine if Thomas Hearns and Ray Leonard in their primes were in the era. Oh, no one knows Hearns. We don't need to see the fight. Ray is the golden child, the Olympian, sells PPVs, and doesn't have to fight Hearns since he is some bum from Kronk gym in Detroit. :rolleyes: Worst Generation of Boxing, full of Bob Arum Pet Rocks! Well.... Crawford is from Omaha. He'd be bigger if he came from the hoods in Detroit

Wilder is a star, Crawford not so much. Hell...... More people know Devin Haney This kind of crazy talk is why we can't get the fight. Imagine if Thomas Hearns and Ray Leonard in their primes were in the era. Oh, no one knows Hearns. We don't need to see the fight. Ray is the golden child, the Olympian, sells PPVs, and doesn't have to fight Hearns since he is some bum from Kronk gym in Detroit. :rolleyes: Worst Generation of Boxing, full of Bob Arum Pet Rocks!

Has there ever been a fighter get such high praise with as weak a resume as Bud Crawford? Cotto???????

Crawford is and should be fighting Charlo in any generation other than this nonsense for a 3rd undisputed. Bob Arum Pet Rock Club if you think PBC isn't trying to sideline him to give Spence a better chance of winning. Crawford would have 2 fights scheduled this year if he was still with Top Rank. They found all the money in the world for Fury (thought he was cake b/c of the drugs and peds) who literally sold 3900 tickets in a ballroom before Wilder but can't find a 15 million 3-fight deal for Crawford who sells out all home fights and has PPV on par with GGGimmick PRE-CANELO (pay close attention when people say Crawford doesn't sell but the fraud does). All excuses and boxing fans showing their lack of knowledge. Go ahead and buy the Wilder PPV with that GREAT co-main, LOL! Wilder is a star, Crawford not so much. Hell...... More people know Devin Haney

Nobody gives a fuck about them and the way that this fight unfolded shows why no one gives a fuck about boxing as well. This fight is going to flop so hard. Two largely unknown totally uncharismatic guys that will be rammed down everyone’s throats as stars in the lead up to the fight. Awful

Oscar and Vernon struggled against Ike for Christ's Sake. Ike would lose to Porter IMO. Porter would not beat Ike Qaurtey at his peak. Porter is a tough game fighter, a warrior. He very rarely at the skills or tactics to beat a elite level fighter. Shawn Porter is the american version of Derek Chisora, but slightly ever so slightly more sophisticated.

No, they are not generational talents. Do you consider Cotto and Pac generational talent?s???

Has there ever been a fighter get such high praise with as weak a resume as Bud Crawford? GGG, Tito, Vernon, and Ike

Yes. If your a ****ing idiot Explain???

They are the top fighters of this era. I would not really take it as far to say? We have never seen this level of skill and performance before. Oscar De La Hoya at his peak probably beats both of them or would really really push them. I don't want to discredit them too much, as they are currently undefeated. Has Spence Junior or Crawford beaten anybody on the level of De La Hoya? Shane Mosley? Not really. But that is only down to this era, not really being as strong 'But it is still good'. The late 90's, early 2000's and very early 2010's. The entire Welter Weight divisions, were at the second strongest they have ever been in History. Only really the 80's may have rivaled that era. Oscar and Vernon struggled against Ike for Christ's Sake. Ike would lose to Porter IMO.

Spence's resume shts on Dud's.

Yes Spence is a generational talent for barely getting past Porter and beating a washed up DG.

Undisputed, 2 times lineal, 3 division, has no control of the BS that is going on right now as a fighter. If he dropped his promoter, there is no question what he wants to do at welterweight and requesting Jermell Charlo fight also. As I said in the Tyson thread, maybe Keef, Danny and Spence are the ones with the accolades. I need names :lol1:

Why do MFers mention Bud when it comes to greatness ?!?!? Can someone name his top 3 wins ?!?!? Undisputed, 2 times lineal, 3 division, has no control of the BS that is going on right now as a fighter. If he dropped his promoter, there is no question what he wants to do at welterweight and requesting Jermell Charlo fight also. As I said in the Tyson thread, maybe Keef, Danny and Spence are the ones with the accolades.

Why do MFers mention Bud when it comes to greatness ?!?!? Can someone name his top 3 wins ?!?!?

Crawford is and should be fighting Charlo in any generation other than this nonsense for a 3rd undisputed. Bob Arum Pet Rock Club if you think PBC isn't trying to sideline him to give Spence a better chance of winning. Crawford would have 2 fights scheduled this year if he was still with Top Rank. They found all the money in the world for Fury (thought he was cake b/c of the drugs and peds) who literally sold 3900 tickets in a ballroom before Wilder but can't find a 15 million 3-fight deal for Crawford who sells out all home fights and has PPV on par with GGGimmick PRE-CANELO (pay close attention when people say Crawford doesn't sell but the fraud does). All excuses and boxing fans showing their lack of knowledge. Go ahead and buy the Wilder PPV with that GREAT co-main, LOL!