Which 168-175 lbs fighter could give Prime Roy Jones problems?
Both retired & active 168 & 175 lbs fighters like: Andre Ward, James Toney, Joe Calzaghe, Bernard Hopkins, Carl Froch, Canelo Alvarez, David Benavidez, Dmitry Bivol, Artur Beterbiev et al.
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Calzaghe Ward, & 168 nelo would all be interesting, 175 beterbiev would be very interesting if he lands.
Can't see Canelo giving Roy problems. Roy would make Canelo look like a total clown.
montiel was down on the cards at the time of the dq. So I dont know if that's exposing someone
Canelo had problems with tiny Floyd. And just got dominated by bivol. What you think a 28 year old Roy would do to him
Tarver, Johnson, and calzaghe all beat a post heavyweight Roy that was 36 and over. That's not the real Roy Jones
Goodness me, there is no 147 pound fighter that would ever beat Roy Jones Junior.
I don't think Alvarez will win a round vs Roy Jones Junior. It is a bad match up stylistically for him. Jones was super elite at all the attributes which trouble Alvarez.
Speed = Roy Jones Junior. Movement = Roy Jones Junior. Combination punch ability = Roy Jones Junior. Endurance = Roy Jones Junior. Defense = Roy Jones Junior.
These are all the attributes where Roy Jones Junior is miles better than Alvarez.
When you break a fight down like that? It is just too much of a difficult task for Alvarez.
I'm not sold he'd do well with Michael Spinks
Wouldn’t necessarily argue with that.
Spinks was great and definitely had tools to trouble Jones combined with his size.
Well, he beat both of them so no.
Not quite sure why Toney's on the list since he totally embarrassed him in the ring.
He beats everyone you listed.
There's LHW's who could give him an issue; Ezzard Charles, Archie Moore, Micheal Spinks, Harold Johnson, amongst others definitely hold some stylistic problems for him.
Someone like Bob Foster could catch him and knock him out with one shot that lands on the button, but Roy Jones is totally superior to Bob Foster.
But realistically, in my opinion, Roy Jones beats them all.
I'm not sold he'd do well with Michael Spinks
I don’t know what fight you were watching but Griffin was not “dominating” the 9th round before the KO.
If anything he was losing the round before he was even hurt. He was on the verge of getting stopped before the theatrics.
Exactly.....
Improve ur reading skills. I already said "Griffin was ahead in "a" scorecard".
And, punch stats show that judges were generous to Jones.
And I said jones was up on the scorecards. Which is facts. It takes 2 out of 3 cards to win a fight. Not 1.
punchstats aren't how you score a fight. You can build a punch stats lead with one big round.
Griffin was about to get knocked out when the ref saved him.
Sometimes I feel like Jones had this aura of the speed of Naseem Hamed, and power of David Haye. Lots of un orthodoxy and charisma thrown in.
It's quite a big compliment. But they were beatable, and so was Roy by some.
I'm a huge Calzaghe fan and used to favour him over prime Roy and Hopkins. I'm less confident as times gone on, or less biased. He's a problem for both in their primes, sure, but prime Roy still beats him.
Roy beats a prime Ward too. But strong, technical, hard hitting LHW's is where his prime losses mighta laid more..
Griffin was ahead in a scorecard. Other scorecards were extremely close. Griffin was dominating Jones in the last round until DQ. Jones had a good chance to lose by decision.
Griffin was a midget with 178 cm reach and still landed more punches. Moreover, he landed half of his punches.
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Canelo and Calzaghe would be problem for any Roy. Jones would have to fight with his A+ game for Canelo's smart pressure.
I don’t know what fight you were watching but Griffin was not “dominating” the 9th round before the KO.
If anything he was losing the round before he was even hurt. He was on the verge of getting stopped before the theatrics.
Griffin was ahead in a scorecard. Other scorecards were extremely close. Griffin was dominating Jones in the last round until DQ. Jones had a good chance to lose by decision.
Griffin was a midget with 178 cm reach and still landed more punches. Moreover, he landed half of his punches.
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Canelo and Calzaghe would be problem for any Roy. Jones would have to fight with his A+ game for Canelo's smart pressure.
You put up punch stats. Those aren't scorecards.
https://youtu.be/W9SfAiRCoWo
58:48 official scorecards. Roy was up on 2 out of 3 cards. Actual facts.
Jones has similar mythological status to Mike Tyson, in both cases the excuses for their first couple of losses don't hold up to logical scrutiny other than they just weren't quite as good as some make out.
The reality of Jones is he was a drugs cheat, his record has some good wins but also a HELL of a lot of trash and missing names. Tarver just had his number.
How did Tarver have his number if he beat Tarver?
Montell Griffin exposed him in the first fight with his short reach and smart pressure on the ropes.
At 168, Canelo maybe has a slim chance. Pressure counter puncher with slick defense. Calzaghe's high work rate and high output would be problem for any Roy. Ward's dirty style is also problematic for him. Jones beats others with ease at 168.
At 175, Beterbiev could KO him badly. Jones' two pathetic losses against Tarver and Johnson were at 175. Beterbiev is better puncher than both. Kovalev, Bivol and Gvozdyk could have some success. But, they are too robotic for Roy.
montiel was down on the cards at the time of the dq. So I dont know if that's exposing someone
Canelo had problems with tiny Floyd. And just got dominated by bivol. What you think a 28 year old Roy would do to him
Tarver, Johnson, and calzaghe all beat a post heavyweight Roy that was 36 and over. That's not the real Roy Jones
I always wanted to see him versus Michael Nunn. I think Roy wins but Nunn bring a tall southpaw with speed and decent power while being unorthodox would've been a puzzle to solve.
I got Jones winning both fights, Beterbiev probably easier than Ward because Ward is more dynamic. People tend to forget prime time Jones because it's pretty common to remember that last images of a fighter. Prime Jones was just so fast in everything he did and if lesser fighters could put Beterbiev on the canvas, I can see Jones heavily disrupting him.
This is the Roy I'm talking about. Something happen to him after he went to HW and came back down. Notice I said Beterbiev has to make it out of the 1st 8-9 rounds with him when the fight will slow down a bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wfGWHlBN0E