Fury will beat Usyk.

I think he beats Usyk, but whether the fight actually happens or not is another question. For a guy that gets talked up as some unstoppable ATG master boxer its pretty weird that Fury has now "retired" twice by 33. It sure doesnt come across like he wants to be a fighting champion taking on all comers, for some reason. Lol utter bollocks. How the **** is beating 39 year old Wlad in Germany by sticking your tongue out and throwing feints (and then "retiring" and ducking the rematch) a better win than beating and at times clearly hurting a significantly bigger 31 year old who literally KO'd and retired that same middle aged Wlad 18 months after Fury beat him? also fighting a Brit in front of 70k people in London is a vastly more intimidating and intense atmosphere for a travelling fighter than fighting Wlad in ****ing Germany. Being the underdog is easier than being a favorite. The only people putting pressure on Tyson Fury, was himself and his team. Anthony Joshua was in his 19th professional fight, and was favorite against a Wladimir Kiltschko who had just endured three back to back training camps. Kiltschko was motivated, and had venom within him. In front of his home crowd, in one of the biggest if not? The biggest UK staged sporting event of that year. Joshua was under insurmountable pressure 'Tyson Fury has never experienced that kind of pressure'. Fury has always been the underdog in all of his elite level fights, the only fights where has has been favorite. Were his last 3 fights. And he has just retired after beating somebody Joshua banged out a long time ago. Both wins are great. But I honestly value Joshua's win over Kiltschko more highly. Due to how he fought Kiltschko, and the damaged he inflicted. Note: Joshua vs Uysk II, is possibly the first fight that Anthony Joshua will be rated as a underdog. It is vastly different environment to train and compete under. But even still I think Joshua is under more pressure than Tyson Fury, when he was the under dog. Because lets be real? The universal perception of Tyson Fury before he become champion, was that he was a eccentric entertaining character in the sport. Nobody was really priming him for greatness, nobody cared. This was not may perception of him, but it was the universal perception 'With Anthony Joshua it has been a totally different'. Joshua has been held to a higher standard than Fury throughout his entire career. A higher standard in terms of who he fights, how he fights, and whether he wins or loses etc.

Theres no point to a boxing forum really if we aren't allowed to discuss hypothetical. ​​​​​Wilder has proved his balls in the ring, Joshua needs to prove he hasn't lost his. If AJ beats Usyk, he has proved himself. Let's see what happens. The same vice versa.

"Completely outboxed" lol, it was one of the most low activity title fights ever. Usyk landed more punches on Joshua than Fury and Wlad landed combined in that fight. I'm not saying it wasnt still a good win even though it was boring, but again, Wlad was 39 years old, retired on a loss not long after that fight, and Fury never gave him the rematch he was obligated to give. He also had a size advantage over Wlad. Whereas Usyk was the smaller man and beat a physically (though arguably not mentally) prime Joshua, and actually engaged him and hurt him. Yes he was completely outboxed, hence Fury winning a decision in Germany. Fury did what he had to do, he completely nullified Wlad's offense by taking away his jab. Wlad couldn't adjust and that's why it's classed as a "boring" fight. What did people expect Tyson to do, stop outboxing him and start slugging it out with a man who has brutal KO power?

AJ is a better technical boxer than Wilder but that counts for very little when he's a mental wreck. Wilder after being stopped by Fury went back in there and attacked, he got dropped again and got up and attacked and dropped fury twice, he broke his hand and continued to attack, got dropped again, got up and attacked. AJ took one shot off Usyk in the first round and fought scared the whole night. Wilder would never do that. AJ needs to get his head straight or retire. In his current form he's just embarrasing himself. I'd personally like to see none of them retire and fight each other. You prefer mythical wins. Each to their own.

Sorry, the shell of AJ who is still suffering from PTSD from being smashed all over the ring and made to QUIT vs Andy Ruiz Jr 2 fights ago is not a better win than Wlad or Wilder at the time of those wins who had A) not lost for 10 years and B) never lost. It just isn't so stop. I agree, I don't think it was a better win than Wlad, some people will disagree as AJ knocked out a similar version (but I agree that AJ was different to the one who faced Usyk, both in good and bad ways). I do however think it was much better than Wilder, who imo is painfully awful and hasn't ever had a good win, but some people will disagree. That's all good. What's important is that the question marks are all erased by Fury facing the winner. If he retires, he will forever be doubted... Especially those looking at boxrec years in the future for the champions he beat. Would be good if the winner of this fight then goes on to face the Joyce's of the world, but one step at a time!

Hang on a minute, Fury's win over the 12yr unbeaten champion Wladimir in his own backyard isn't arguably better than Usyk's win over Joshua, it's miles better. Usyk isn't even that good, i can't wait for Fury to squash him like a bug. I agree actually, but not everyone will. I also can't wait for either to squash either. Will be fun and what boxing should be. Hopefully neither retires without proving they are the best

At the end of the day Fury completely outboxed a champion who had barely lost a round in 12 years, legendary stuff. "Completely outboxed" lol, it was one of the most low activity title fights ever. Usyk landed more punches on Joshua than Fury and Wlad landed combined in that fight. I'm not saying it wasnt still a good win even though it was boring, but again, Wlad was 39 years old, retired on a loss not long after that fight, and Fury never gave him the rematch he was obligated to give. He also had a size advantage over Wlad. Whereas Usyk was the smaller man and beat a physically (though arguably not mentally) prime Joshua, and actually engaged him and hurt him.

You are correct, Fury was young, and he was inexperienced Couldn't read past that :lol1: He just got through beating a guy only top HW's beat !!!!

But you're an ultra super unleaded Fury hater, so nobody cares about your opinion. Tell me I'm lying. Young Fury eked out a ''W'' vs Spent Wlad NOT because he beat Wlad up (quite the opposite). Fury vs Wilder is the definition of slop.

It matters if you're an ultra super unleaded Fury fan If I want to watch a hysterical SLOPFEST, Fury vs Wilder 1-3 is the ticket :lol1: But you're an ultra super unleaded Fury hater, so nobody cares about your opinion.

It depends what you like i suppose. Fury and Wlad were both defensive first boxers, so a chess match wasn't exactly unexpected. If you want to watch a slugfest, watch Fury-Wilder III, the best action HW title fight of this era. It matters if you're an ultra super unleaded Fury fan If I want to watch a hysterical SLOPFEST, Fury vs Wilder 1-3 is the ticket :lol1:

I agree it was much better watching both of them individually knocking Americans spark out. Their styles didn't mesh but that's what happens when 2 highly skilled heavyweights fight. Fury ran for cover while he was ahead AJ is about to get his pounded in Usyk is a poor mans Holy. This div is so bad, 12L is still considered a threat to a title :lol1: !!!!! Let that soak in

You call that a schooling :lol1: ?!?!?!? You're being silly now Fury vs Whyte > Fury vs Wlad and both were shlt ''fights'' It depends what you like i suppose. Fury and Wlad were both defensive first boxers, so a chess match wasn't exactly unexpected. If you want to watch a slugfest, watch Fury-Wilder III, the best action HW title fight of this era.

Ashamed of schooling the 12 year unbeaten champion Wladimir Klitschko? Don't be silly now. You call that a schooling :lol1: ?!?!?!? You're being silly now Fury vs Whyte > Fury vs Wlad and both were shlt ''fights''

If you think EITHER of them ''fought'' to win, you have mental issues. As young as Fury was.....he should be ashamed of that pitiful display. Didn't he have a 10 year age advantage ? Ashamed of schooling the 12 year unbeaten champion Wladimir Klitschko? Don't be silly now.

'Fury only won because Wlad wanted to lose' :lol1: :lol1: If you think EITHER of them ''fought'' to win, you have mental issues. As young as Fury was.....he should be ashamed of that pitiful display. Didn't he have a 10 year age advantage ? Edit - Not every fighter, champ or not, fights to win :boxing: !!!

I think he beats Usyk, but whether the fight actually happens or not is another question. For a guy that gets talked up as some unstoppable ATG master boxer its pretty weird that Fury has now "retired" twice by 33. It sure doesnt come across like he wants to be a fighting champion taking on all comers, for some reason. Lol utter bollocks. How the **** is beating 39 year old Wlad in Germany by sticking your tongue out and throwing feints (and then "retiring" and ducking the rematch) a better win than beating and at times clearly hurting a significantly bigger 31 year old who literally KO'd and retired that same middle aged Wlad 18 months after Fury beat him? also fighting a Brit in front of 70k people in London is a vastly more intimidating and intense atmosphere for a travelling fighter than fighting Wlad in ****ing Germany. The same Joshua who was dominated and stopped by the human blob Andy Ruiz? ​​​​​At the end of the day Fury completely outboxed a champion who had barely lost a round in 12 years, legendary stuff. ​​​​​​

Hang on... Prime Fury only ''won'' because shot Wlad didn't want to. They landed a combined 82 ''punches'' over 12 rds :lol1: Worst title ''fight'' in the history of the sport I don't think there's a highlight vid 'Fury only won because Wlad wanted to lose' :lol1: :lol1:

Fury might not be the fighting man he claims he is. When the going got tough, the tough didn't get going. Wilder gave him him concussion and his heart not in it no more. But wilder is the one who was koed I wonder if he had concussion? Fury is entitled to retire though if his heart is not a fighter no more

Hang on a minute, Fury's win over the 12yr unbeaten champion Wladimir in his own backyard isn't arguably better than Usyk's win over Joshua, it's miles better. Usyk isn't even that good, i can't wait for Fury to squash him like a bug. Hang on... Prime Fury only ''won'' because shot Wlad didn't want to. They landed a combined 82 ''punches'' over 12 rds :lol1: Worst title ''fight'' in the history of the sport I don't think there's a highlight vid