1. Usyk
2. Crawford
3. Inoue
4. Canelo
5. Spence
beyond that I dunno. There have been a few low quality undisputed runs recently, tough to rank them.
Josh Taylor, Devin Haney, Kambosos, Jermel Charlo….. all these guys had pretty lacklustre easy paths to undisputed. Crawford’s was very bad as well tbh.
how do you include these undisputed people and in what order?
Pistol, Indongo, Burns, Gamboa and Beltran are quality wins at the time, especially Gamboa.
Canelo is undefeated against bums. Where he has a major problem is the 4 best guys he’s fought, he arguably lost to all of them.
The win and draw he has over Lara and GGG are often cited when posters discuss terrible scorecards.
However you cut it having Canelo at #2 right now is completely biased and unrealistic.
Postol is such an unknown, you even spelt his name wrong. Burns? who? 8 loss Burns? from the UK? The same UK that you people keep saying the Canelo bum opponents come from? Gamboa? LOL give me a break. Beltran? LOLOLOLOL. Career gatekeeper Beltran who has 9 losses and never held a world championship Beltran?
You dumbass. Crawford has a terrible resume, the only worse than his is Doo Doo Andrade.
Canelo still holds a W over GGG and Lara, controversial or not, it's still a W. Crawford doesn't have any controversial wins because he keeps fighting bum opponents.
crawford
beterbiev
Canelo
Inoue
Jermell
crawford only guy i see in a p4p matchup who might be able to last 12 with beterbiev. p4p beterbiev smashes everyone else. guy is so under-rated. despite bivol, canelo can beat the rest of the list. forget sparring. put 10ozs and no headgear and jermell has spence spitting out his mouthpiece.
usyk doesn't belong.
Bam has so many top tier possible opponents that he could work his way to top 3 if he fights them all and keeps winning impressively.
126 and below is really hot right now.
He looked incredible against Rungvisai, I was very impressed.
I think Shakur Stevenson will be the future P4P #1.
Oh yeah, no doubt about that. He's done well and deserves credit.
But I don't see Charlo as a P4P quality fighter, but with that said he deserves the spot right now.
Bam has so many top tier possible opponents that he could work his way to top 3 if he fights them all and keeps winning impressively.
126 and below is really hot right now.
Agree 100%. Charlo deserves credit for his JMW run.
Oh yeah, no doubt about that. He's done well and deserves credit.
But I don't see Charlo as a P4P quality fighter, but with that said he deserves the spot right now.
I don’t think so. Charlo, Navarette, and Shakur all before him imo.
Wouldn't argue, although I don't really rate Charlo.
I see Bam entering the list very soon though.
Postol is his best win I think overall. But Indongo and a bunch of the other names on there are awful. The Gamboa probably shouldn’t have been sanctioned. He looked like there was 5 weight divisions in between them.
Lmfao @ 5 weight divisions between them.
Crawford’s resume has to be judged in real time, not “where they are now”. Pistol and Indongo were the top guys other than him. He beat both thoroughly.
Burns, Gamboa and Beltran are quality wins at the time, especially Gamboa.
Postol is his best win I think overall. But Indongo and a bunch of the other names on there are awful. The Gamboa probably shouldn’t have been sanctioned. He looked like there was 5 weight divisions in between them.
Unified garbage divisions against a bunch of nobodies. He makes it look easy because he fought nothing but bums. Canelo would also be undefeated if he faced the low quality opponents that Crawford faced.
And Porter? Lol career gatekeeper? He lost all his big fights, and was about to retire, how is that a good win?
Pistol, Indongo, Burns, Gamboa and Beltran are quality wins at the time, especially Gamboa.
Canelo is undefeated against bums. Where he has a major problem is the 4 best guys he’s fought, he arguably lost to all of them.
The win and draw he has over Lara and GGG are often cited when posters discuss terrible scorecards.
However you cut it having Canelo at #2 right now is completely biased and unrealistic.
It’s true Crawford’s record is dog**** but he’s been ripping through everyone and will likely top it off with a win over Errol. I think I would probably like to move him to notch 3 though. His standard of opposition is very poor
Crawford’s resume has to be judged in real time, not “where they are now”. Pistol and Indongo were the top guys other than him. He beat both thoroughly.
Burns, Gamboa and Beltran are quality wins at the time, especially Gamboa.
Unified garbage divisions against a bunch of nobodies. He makes it look easy because he fought nothing but bums. Canelo would also be undefeated if he faced the low quality opponents that Crawford faced.
And Porter? Lol career gatekeeper? He lost all his big fights, and was about to retire, how is that a good win?
It’s true Crawford’s record is dogshit but he’s been ripping through everyone and will likely top it off with a win over Errol. I think I would probably like to move him to notch 3 though. His standard of opposition is very poor
Same. This is mine too. Bam Rodriguez's name is being floated around right now, but I think it's too soon. I look at overall career, and I have my own criteria, such as "who do I want to see fight." I look at skilled performances, and who do we want to see fight? This list is really good, however, I personally would change it. And aside from Usyk, this list is not ranked:
Usyk (number one for me)
Golovkin
Inoue
Lomachenko
Spence
That's my list, if I had to make a top five today.
so this is your personal , "Top 5 fighters I want to see fight" list ,
not necessarily p4p
Unified garbage divisions against a bunch of nobodies. He makes it look easy because he fought nothing but bums. Canelo would also be undefeated if he faced the low quality opponents that Crawford faced.
And Porter? Lol career gatekeeper? He lost all his big fights, and was about to retire, how is that a good win?
who's your top 5?
Crawford had unified and cleaned out 2 divisions, is undefeated, and just beat a top 5 ww in Porter. So while his ww resume isn’t great, his body of work is.
Compare that to Canelo. As good as he is, has arguably lost to the 4 best opponents he’s faced- Floyd, Bivol, GGG, Lara. He lost roughly 23-1 to Floyd and Bivol.
So if Crawford doesn’t deserve to be in the top 10, then why would Canelo deserve to be in the top 15?
Realistically, Crawford is no worse than 3 and Canelo can’t be placed ahead of Usyk, Crawford, Inoue, Spence or Fury given they’re undefeated.
Unified garbage divisions against a bunch of nobodies. He makes it look easy because he fought nothing but bums. Canelo would also be undefeated if he faced the low quality opponents that Crawford faced.
And Porter? Lol career gatekeeper? He lost all his big fights, and was about to retire, how is that a good win?
You have Crawford at No. 2 who has never fought anyone worth a damn and his welterweight run has been pathetic. He doesn't deserve to even be on the top ten.
Crawford had unified and cleaned out 2 divisions, is undefeated, and just beat a top 5 ww in Porter. So while his ww resume isn’t great, his body of work is.
Compare that to Canelo. As good as he is, has arguably lost to the 4 best opponents he’s faced- Floyd, Bivol, GGG, Lara. He lost roughly 23-1 to Floyd and Bivol.
So if Crawford doesn’t deserve to be in the top 10, then why would Canelo deserve to be in the top 15?
Realistically, Crawford is no worse than 3 and Canelo can’t be placed ahead of Usyk, Crawford, Inoue, Spence or Fury given they’re undefeated.