Pacquiao would have never beaten Floyd.

I stopped reading after this. To insinuate he got knocked out because he didn't want to take Floyds bs offer and a boxing god lol punished him is ludicrous. He got ko'd because he rematched a fighter he fought 3x prior knew him like a book and was always a bad style match-up. Thats it and all. Marquez is the guy who gets full credit for beating the best version of Manny. Floyd eh gets about half credit for inconclusively outpointing a shopworn version, and its anybody’s guess as to whether or not he could beat him in his prime because he had multiple opportunities to make a fight happen but he was too scared to do it. No you didn’t. You just can’t refute any of it because it’s the hard truth. No, he got ko’d because he dropped his hands pressing for a ko. He made a tactical mistake. You also are pretending we all forgot what really happened. Manny said he “had nothing more to prove with JMM”. Then made the fight only after turning down the Floyd fight because that was the most lucrative non Floyd fight available where he was the a-side. The boxing gods punished him for a purely ego driven decision that prevented the best fight in the sport from happening. Note he also didn’t have PED testing for this fight. But that is for another discussion. You can gerrymander giving credit however you wish. JMM benefitted from Manny’s cowardice. Floyd did what he was always going to do- easily beat Manny. That is why Manny kept refusing the fight. After he got ktfo, he wasn’t as big an earner as the a-side. His fights against Rios, Algieri and Bradley didn’t do as well as expected. Bob couldn’t afford to keep losing money. He had no financial choice but to finally fight Floyd. Besides, Floyd punked him in Miami so he couldn’t refuse again. I know the truth hurts you.

I disagree. Because Floyd had the reach advantage, Manny had to get past that reach, and every time he did that, Floyd hugged and held. You let that happen without repercussion (point deduction), then yeah, Floyd will win nine times out of ten. But you have a competent referee who'd let them fight or reprimand Floyd for rule violations, then Manny could stop Floyd. There's a reason why Floyd never fought Manny again, even though he would have made even more money than before. Floyd/Pac II wouldn't have generated more sales than the first.

Manny turned down the $40 mil offer and got ktfo in a fight he made $12 mil less. That’s not Floyd waiting for him to get ktfo, that’s Manny’s cowardice being punished by the boxing gods. . I stopped reading after this. To insinuate he got knocked out because he didn't want to take Floyds bs offer and a boxing god lol punished him is ludicrous. He got ko'd because he rematched a fighter he fought 3x prior knew him like a book and was always a bad style match-up. Thats it and all. Marquez is the guy who gets full credit for beating the best version of Manny. Floyd eh gets about half credit for inconclusively outpointing a shopworn version, and its anybody’s guess as to whether or not he could beat him in his prime because he had multiple opportunities to make a fight happen but he was too scared to do it.

Thats not always the case. Anybody whose been around knows Floyd's "offers" were nothing but surface fluff to make it seem like you want the fight. Stuff that they knew Manny would turn down. Manny agreed to Floyd's ridculous testing demands and every other roadblock Floyd threw up and Floyd was still scared. All for those guys to say, hey, we tried to make a fight with him but he turned it down. The old bait and switch tactic to look good in the media we know Floyd is attention whore #1. The truth is Floyd was scared Manny's risk value was too high they didn't want the fight at that time thats why they allowed Manny to say gtfoh so easy. Look at that situation with the 40 million offer. As soon as Manny turned it down Floyd ran and got an interview with Stephen A Smith so he could plant the seed. Stop it. It wasn't until Manny was ko'd his risk% and negotiating market value went down is when Floyd felt comfortable making the fight. I don't know why that is so hard to see. Just look at him now. Still scared to get in the ring with anybody who can actually box. Manny turned down the $40 mil offer and got ktfo in a fight he made $12 mil less. That’s not Floyd waiting for him to get ktfo, that’s Manny’s cowardice being punished by the boxing gods. Manny said he was “good to go”, then as soon as Nevada delayed Floyd’s jail start date, he ran and got stitches from Bob’s son in law, for a cut 6 months earlier that had healed according to his primary doctor. Every time he had a chance to prove himself, he ducked. That’s not Floyd’s fault that Manny made those decisions. Yes Floyd went to the media so Bob and his media cronies couldn’t lie about what actually happened. You keep making up excuses for Manny. He keeps making excuses when he ducks or when he loses. Deleting the truth in the post before responding because that hurts your feelings is proof that you know Manny deserves criticism for not taking offers made to him. Also, his performance in the fight mirrored his actions. He kept refusing deals. Then when the fight happened he refused to go all out to try and win. Just grabbed his shoulder and made another excuse.

When you make offers and they are turned down, it’s the guy turning them down that is scared, not the guy making the offers to fight. Thats not always the case. Anybody whose been around knows Floyd's "offers" were nothing but surface fluff to make it seem like you want the fight. Stuff that they knew Manny would turn down. Manny agreed to Floyd's ridculous testing demands and every other roadblock Floyd threw up and Floyd was still scared. All for those guys to say, hey, we tried to make a fight with him but he turned it down. The old bait and switch tactic to look good in the media we know Floyd is attention whore #1. The truth is Floyd was scared Manny's risk value was too high they didn't want the fight at that time thats why they allowed Manny to say gtfoh so easy. Look at that situation with the 40 million offer. As soon as Manny turned it down Floyd ran and got an interview with Stephen A Smith so he could plant the seed. Stop it. It wasn't until Manny was ko'd his risk% and negotiating market value went down is when Floyd felt comfortable making the fight. I don't know why that is so hard to see. Just look at him now. Still scared to get in the ring with anybody who can actually box.

You have no honor. You lie all the time. You’re lying now and you know it. Cotto did say floyd ducked pac, as floyd knew pac would ko him. But let's look at the positives, floyd beat pac and pac didn't kO floyd. I must reiterate that you don't need to worry what cotto, or pac fans or what anyone says.

I swear on my life ,God's honour cotto said floyd ducked pac for a long time, I think cotton said 6 years as he knew pac would ko him! I don't see what the big issue is it's only cottos opinion? You have no honor. You lie all the time. You’re lying now and you know it.

Don't blame Manny fans because Floyd didn't want to risk losing. He had the same advantages in height and reach in 2009 that he had in 2015, but the one intangible he lacked was courage. It isn't just Manny fans that thought he was scared people all over thought he was scared. It was Floyd's fight to make and truth is he didn't make it until he felt the risk was at its lowest. His whole welterweight career was manufactured in this fashion. He was able to make every other fight but when it comes to Manny the excuses were harder to keep up with every year. Then the fight itself was nothing to brag about. It was two past prime guys fighting like two guys past their prime. It definitely is one of Floyd's worst performances right up there when he stunk up the joint with Carlos Baldymir. He gets credit for making the money though. When you make offers and they are turned down, it’s the guy turning them down that is scared, not the guy making the offers to fight. Floyd can’t make Manny fight. He made offers Manny refused. Needles wasn’t the only thing he was scared of. If you’re scared, you don’t walk up to a man and challenge him in his face in front of the world. The only reason Manny finally took the fight was because he got punked in public. Couldn’t keep avoiding. The fight sucked because Manny was content to lose by UD and collect a check. No bravery to try and win knowing he was way down on the cards. Manny’s ATG career will always be tainted by the fact on the biggest stage he went out like a coward. But hey he took a few great selfies.

All Pac had to do to prove his psychotic cult followers RIGHT was to roll up his sleeve. No one in Pacland wanted to test PBF. outside of a courtroom. :lol1: ''Taking my blood with less than 30 days doesn't make sense to me :crying:......'' FOH

But cotto did pick pac to beat floyd Its not a good idea to see something out of context and be so blind to miss reading the meaning behind it, you are too intent on finding any words that you think goes with your agenda to the point you have blinkers on. “After working with Freddie I think he is going to be huge in the fight,” Cotto told New York Post. “I’m going for Manny.” You dont see whats going down do you lol, Cotto is siding with Roach which takes the legs out from under what you are trying to embellish, the reason you lose all the time is because you are always trying to peddle the lie, Truth will always prevail sooner or later, it always does.

LOL always ends up the same way lol., go watch some police interviews you do all the same ducking and dodging which is why you have no credibility in here, you're so big on hearsay maybe because its your hearsay and you just attach other people to it. You understand Cotto said Floyd was the best he fought, right, its proven. Now think about that for a minute in reference to what you come out with what said about him, do you understand what congruency is, well nothing you say is congruent with other facts that are proven, and this is the how liars have always been exposed nothing ever adds up with them. But cotto did pick pac to beat floyd

I read the interview in a boxing magazine in whsmiths while waiting for my train, I didn't buy magazine can't remember name of mag. LOL always ends up the same way lol., go watch some police interviews you do all the same ducking and dodging which is why you have no credibility in here, you're so big on hearsay maybe because its your hearsay and you just attach other people to it. You understand Cotto said Floyd was the best he fought, right, its proven. Now think about that for a minute in reference to what you come out with what said about him, do you understand what congruency is, well nothing you say is congruent with other facts that are proven, and this is the how liars have always been exposed nothing ever adds up with them.

Your word is worthless, produce Cotto saying it would be the logical answer, Just as I do like when Cotto said Floyd was the best he fought, I had to show it, and I did. I read the interview in a boxing magazine in whsmiths while waiting for my train, I didn't buy magazine can't remember name of mag. I'll believe you if you say cotton said floyd is the best he fought, and why not, floyd has immense skills. But don't mean he thinks Floyd's greater. Cotto picked pac to beat floyd

I swear on my life ,God's honour cotto said floyd ducked pac for a long time, I think cotton said 6 years as he knew pac would ko him! I don't see what the big issue is it's only cottos opinion? Your word is worthless, produce Cotto saying it would be the logical answer, Just as I do like when Cotto said Floyd was the best he fought, I had to show it, and I did.

I dismiss compulsive liars all the time, you have the record for telling more made-up BS than anyone on the site. Don't offer another smokescreen to cover your lies, I called you out on what you said, well prove what you said is correct, but nope you throw some other fan-made BS and cry victim lol. I swear on my life ,God's honour cotto said floyd ducked pac for a long time, I think cotton said 6 years as he knew pac would ko him! I don't see what the big issue is it's only cottos opinion?

Mannny fought Cotto the year after he got brutally stopped by Margarito and made him shrink to top it off because he was too scared and needed the advantage. No taint there lmao. Beat it kid, you're levels upon levels beneath me. Yes pac was scared cotto might shorten his career, as pac wanted to give his heart and soul to his fans for next 10 years. What pac did was from the heart and soul and was honourable. What floyd did with his cw was more sinister and selfish, wanted to keep his zero, he certainly didn't use it to lengthen his career as he certainly weren't going to be fighting much longer was he? Not going to be beating young undefeated superstar lions like pac was, was floyd?

I can't believe you dismiss me so completely when all I did wasv repeat what cott o said, don't shoot messenger. But Pac won his first title 4 weight classes below Floyd did. So why do Floyd fans boast about the fact Floyd should beat any version of pac? But facts are Floyd only beat the 70 fight past prime version. We don't know if Floyd beats prime version or even win rematch but many think Pac beat Floyd. https://youtu.be/fcC9_cqy2L8 I dismiss compulsive liars all the time, you have the record for telling more made-up BS than anyone on the site. Don't offer another smokescreen to cover your lies, I called you out on what you said, well prove what you said is correct, but nope you throw some other fan-made BS and cry victim lol.

Of course he would have, that was the entire reason for Floyd ducking him for 5+ years, or in his own words, he deserved credit for being smart by marinating the fight for 5 years and making it bigger. You swallow out of context like a sponge lol, Manny walked out on the fight in 2010, even Roach said it was their fault it didn't happen. Ive learned in here you fanboys are not interested in facts of what happened you will still throw out the relevant facts to follow the same BS you always did. fkn unreal.

Only thing it says is if the risk is too high Floyd isn't fighting them. In 2009 up until they fought the risk was too high for Floyd thats why you cats made up 10 plus years of excuses It must have been too risky for Manny because it was him that walked, your logic is so warped, the guy running away is correct and the guy saying I will give you everything you want including a never-before 50/50 purse and Manny runs off, he couldn't force Manny to fight him but he did everything he could to make the fight including signing the contract and confronting Manny personally. Tell me what did Manny do to try and make the fight something he did personally, the truth is Manny did nothing, nothing at all except play a media role to save face, which amazes me that at the end off the day it was Floyd who actually got the fight made, he was forced to go tap Manny on the shoulder in person.

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