I see people mentioning that Wilder would not have an opportunity to land on Uysk but I think he would have plenty of opportunities.
Usyk is not a defense first fighter. His offense and activity is what wins him fights. I just don't see a scenario where Wilder doesn't hurt hum at least once during a 1e round fight. Not saying he stops him but I see him landing for sure.
Yeah, but my argument is less to do with Usyk’s defensive abilities, and more the fact that Wilder’s a very predictable puncher in a bout where someone not only knows what he’s about to throw, but also, for the first time in Wilder’s career, has the mobility, footwork and reaction times necessary to preempt him.
I see Usyk finding a home for the jab all night, and throwing Wilder off balance before he has time to launch. But ofc, they gotta get in the ring 1st…
As Deontay himself would say;
Usyk gotta be perfect for 12 rounds, i only gotta be perfect for 1 second.
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Lol. A statement for the ages, especially that last not
Usyk doesn't have Fury's physical strength and length. Both of these attributes are what Fury used to defuse Wilder. Stay out of range, jab, then when you enter the range, bully him with your size & strength to keep him from setting up the big bomb.
Usyk won't be able to back Wilder up and at some point he's gonna have to enter Wilder's range. Don't get me wrong, Usyk would make Wilder look silly, but at some point that right hand will land and Usyk will wake up in hospital.
Wilder doesn't care about getting outboxed, he's only looking for one thing.
Wilder doesn't have the stamina to go 12 rounds at the kind of pace Usyk sets. After 4/5 he would start blowing, backing off looking to take breathers and when that happened Usyk would put his foot down, overwhelm him and force a stoppage. Even before he moved up to HW Usyk was asked in an interview which of the top HWs he thought would be the easiest and which the most difficult to beat. He said straight away that he knew how to beat Wilder and it would be an easy fight for him. I believe him.
Yeah right! It took Usyk 7 rounds to get rid of the complete bum Chazz Witherspoon, and that was a quit in the corner job, not a KO. He couldn't stop an old Chisora or AJ with his glass jaw.
Usyk can certainly win a decision against Wilder, but no way is he knocking him out.
wilder sucks, he would get countered badly and usyk can crack at HW, no matter what people say. plus wilder has no stamina and his chin is crap too. usyk is just too good and to accurate,
That’s like using logic saying Fury couldn’t knockout washed out Pianetta coming off a few losses which he didn’t but knocked out Wilder twice . :lol1:
Usyk almost knocked out Chisora in round 4/5 he was saved by the bell . Wilders chin isn’t remotely as solid as Chisora .You’re cheerleading for Wilder to big up Fury ,fake as hell . :lol1:
Fury had just lost 10 stone before he fought Pianetta, was clearly boxing to get rounds in because he'd been out of the ring for years and this was before he adopted the Kronk style.
A fit Fury knocks him out in the first.
Usyk can't punch for shit, he isn't knocking anyone out at HW.
I'm not fake, I was one of the very few people on here who was calling Fury the truth since day 1, and I was proved right.
You're the biggest mong on the forum, tell us again how Whyte was gonna be Fury's toughest ever fight? :lol1:
I see people mentioning that Wilder would not have an opportunity to land on Uysk but I think he would have plenty of opportunities.
Usyk is not a defense first fighter. His offense and activity is what wins him fights. I just don't see a scenario where Wilder doesn't hurt hum at least once during a 1e round fight. Not saying he stops him but I see him landing for sure.
Yeah, he’s been hit me plenty of times by people who can set punches up.
If Wilder could set up like any other semi-decent boxer Usyk’s faced, I’d make him favourite, but he’s easy to read (no, I don’t want to get in there and test that out).
On this note, your man, Fury got taken down by Wilder a few times. But I say this not to slate him, but say that when you watch those KDs back, it was apparent that Fury knew what was coming from a mile off. You can see his top half trying to mobilise away from Wilder’s shots, but he couldn’t get his feet to respond in the same manner.
The thing about Usyk is that, even if his chin proves not as solid as Fury’s, his footwork will keep him out of trouble vs. a guy without the IQ necessary to trouble him, IMO. Never say never…
As Deontay himself would say;
Usyk gotta be perfect for 12 rounds, i only gotta be perfect for 1 second.
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i really like fury but his fans are really delusional, wilder is a horrible skilled fighter, just awfull. usyk would KO'd him badly and so would joshua who, by far is a much better fighter who can also crack.
Yeah right! It took Usyk 7 rounds to get rid of the complete bum Chazz Witherspoon, and that was a quit in the corner job, not a KO. He couldn't stop an old Chisora or AJ with his glass jaw.
Usyk can certainly win a decision against Wilder, but no way is he knocking him out.
i really like fury but his fans are really delusional, wilder is a horrible skilled fighter, just awfull. usyk would KO'd him badly and so would joshua who, by far is a much better fighter who can also crack.
Depends how he performs in his comeback fight. Let’s see him against a Gassiev or Sanchez. He can’t take a tune up considering his age and also how his entire early and middle career was one massive tune up
I think he knocks Usyk out. Usyk isn't a magician, he's been hit plenty of times, at some point during the fight he's going to stray into range and Wilder is going to land that right hand, and when he does, Usyk will fall over like a sack of spuds.
Yeah, he’s been hit me plenty of times by people who can set punches up.
If Wilder could set up like any other semi-decent boxer Usyk’s faced, I’d make him favourite, but he’s easy to read (no, I don’t want to get in there and test that out).
On this note, your man, Fury got taken down by Wilder a few times. But I say this not to slate him, but say that when you watch those KDs back, it was apparent that Fury knew what was coming from a mile off. You can see his top half trying to mobilise away from Wilder’s shots, but he couldn’t get his feet to respond in the same manner.
The thing about Usyk is that, even if his chin proves not as solid as Fury’s, his footwork will keep him out of trouble vs. a guy without the IQ necessary to trouble him, IMO. Never say never…
Wilder has no chance to Ko Usyk. History dictates it as so. Guys of the level of Uysk just don’t get KO’d by punchers like Wilder, although it doesn’t stop the fans from dreaming that it might happen. Maybe if Usyk was british Wilder could win the first fight by fluke and proceed to get punished and stopped in the rematch.
I’m inclined to agree, but I’d be lying to myself if I did.
Yeah, supreme boxers normally beat one-dimensional boxers, but you can’t honestly say Wilder has ‘no chance’. He’s a puncher, hence, he has a ‘puncher’s chance’. And it just so happens that punch hits like an asteroid.
Whether he gets to land it is a different matter, but he’s live in this fight.
Fury came in " Unprepared " for their last fight ?
First i hear about that.
Care to share your source ?
Sorry I can’t (be bothered to) find the links, but in fairness to this dude, all the talk from the Fury camp (if anyone believes it) is that his training got hindered big time by his wife getting into natal difficulties, and that by the time Fury got his head straight, he only managed to get in 6 weeks.
Doesn’t surprise me, tbh. You, I, and everyone else could see he was struggling to get up for a 3rd go, regardless of how serious the personal problems were.
Wilder wouldn't just KO Usyk, he would hospitalise him.
Wilder isn't a scared AJ you really think this little man can avoid wilders right hand for 12 rounds?
And when it lands, Usyk isn't Fury, a 280lb ogre relative of shrek with an Easter island head, he's a blown up middle with an E.T head
For sure, if wilder catches Usyk, it’s game over.
Problem is, Usyk’s been in about 250 fights, seen every possible style, and seen them all off. And this is vs. some of the world’s best boxers, or at least boxers that know how to set up punches.
Its all very well Wilder having power, but it’s no good if he’s in against a hardened amateur that can see them coming from a mile away.
I know the potential counter argument to this is that even Fury got caught, but I’ve always argued that it’s because he got his feet caught under him each time, as for all his talents, he has a tendency to do.
By contrast, Usyk’s footwork and balance is next level.
Put my money on TKO for that one, and so confident that I’d bet my account on it, if you’re interested…??
Wilder looked like shit in his last fight. It ended up being so exciting because Fury came in underprepared and overconfident and carelessly walked right onto a wild, desperate right hand from Wilder who, let's not forget, had already been decked once and was getting pasted from pillar to post at that point.
Even with that massive stroke of luck, Wilder didn't have what it took to put Fury away and as soon as Tyson recovered - which didn't take long - he went straight back to dominating Wilder and battering him from pillar to post until the inevitable KO finale.
Fury came in " Unprepared " for their last fight ?
First i hear about that.
Care to share your source ?
Well, wilder looked as good if not better than white so he could be no3 behind usyk and josh. But if his confidence has taken a hit and needs to build himself back up maybe put him lower.
Id like him to fight a few bums in comeback
Usyk doesn't have Fury's physical strength and length. Both of these attributes are what Fury used to defuse Wilder. Stay out of range, jab, then when you enter the range, bully him with your size & strength to keep him from setting up the big bomb.
Usyk won't be able to back Wilder up and at some point he's gonna have to enter Wilder's range. Don't get me wrong, Usyk would make Wilder look silly, but at some point that right hand will land and Usyk will wake up in hospital.
Wilder doesn't care about getting outboxed, he's only looking for one thing.
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