You Can't Be A P4P Great if None of Your Fights Are on a Level Playing Field

It's a fact. Could you imagine if Michael Jordan never had to play a road game in his entire career? Of if Tom Brady got to play the super bowl in New England every year. In the snow? Would they still be considered as great as they are? That's exactly the type of unfair playing field Canelo gets every fight plus much more. Every fight is a home fight, tens of thousands of screaming fans booing the opponent. Could you imagine if every big game of Jordan or Brady's career they got an unfair call going their way that decided the game? Remember the tuck rule call that Brady got? Canelo gets a tuck rule call EVERY close fight From that bullshit 10-2 card for canelo over trout, the open scoring where they announced Canelo was up 8-0 even though most people had Trout winning, that bullshit 9-3 card over Lara, bullshit 6-6 card for floyd, bullshit cards vs. GGG, Bivol. Could you imagine if Michael Jordan had told the Utah Jazz they have to play barefoot or do other things to make it harder to win the game? That's what Canelo does every fight with rehydration clauses, stipulations in the contract, glove stacking, etc. Could you imagine if Michael Jordan had tested positive for PEDs? It's time to expose this fraud for what it is. It's really shameful to me that any honorable boxing fan is ok with this. Before you tell me "thats the A-side, that's boxing." I DON'T CARE. It's bullshit and it isn't right, period.

Comments (20)

BodyBagz

The game and rules are the same. Can you imagine using a location (where everyone had to play/fight at) as an excuse for not doing well ?!?!?! ''Why did you lose ?'' ''Location, location, location :crying:........''

4y ago

Roadblock

It's the total package of making the playing field uneven, not just 1 thing. Pac's fights w Marquez or any Mexican fighter were always neutral. Even though he usually had the crowed in his favor, but canelo always has the crowd in his favor. Pac never got sketchy judging to the level of canelo. Neither did Floyd. He used a few catchweight but no rehydration clauses or anything nearly as bad as canelo. Thats not true, he shafted Marquez in more ways than one across the divisions, especially weight but God did not let him get away with that one.

4y ago

IronDanHamza

Ok that’s reasonable. Hearns may have been the victim of the a side advantages and presence in the rematch. Don't get me wrong Leonard is by far the greater fighter. But H2H Hearns was well ahead in the first one, before being stopped. Second one I thought Hearns won. Styles make fights though in that case, although Leonard showed his greatness by stopping him whilst behind on points.

4y ago

PRINCEKOOL

The thread is a bit of a over exaggeration. I say a bit, because the one thing I had a issue with Alvarez is? Giving some of his opponents very short notice to prepare. Floyd Mayweather when he was a champion, always provided optimal time for his opponent to prepare 'We are talking months preparation'. Callum Smith vs Alvarez only had 5-6 weeks preparation, and it was the same with Kovalev. Being the underdog is easier than being the favorite. People forget this. Less pressure, the only pressure you have? Is the pressure, yourself and team put on you. So I would not consider Alvarez fighting in front of home fans, technically a big advantage. There is a reason why some fighters or athletes fall apart or don't perform to their best sometimes on the big stage 'Pressure'. Alvarez fighting in front of 1000's upon 1000's of his fans, that expect him to win is not easy.

4y ago

The_Big_Dunn

Wouldn't say Leonard proved to be the "much" better fighter than Hearns over their two fights but I see your point. Ok that’s reasonable. Hearns may have been the victim of the a side advantages and presence in the rematch.

4y ago

hugh_grant

There was no controversy in the wins over pac or Nelo. Pac won't maybe 3 rounds Canelo won zero. your not understanding me. FloyD had home advantage and wants them to be great wins so least he can do is give rematch considering he had home advantage

4y ago

IronDanHamza

4y ago

TernceBudCharlo

The sore loser fans of the b side create fake narratives to justify the losses. Many times B side fighters to take losses largely because of A side advantages but I blame it on the B side fighter for selling out in the first place. Kovalev against Canelo is the best example I can think of. Taking a fight any less than 6 months after your last fight is considered crazy by most. You only see quick turnarounds when a fight is a complete mismatch. Kovalev won against Yarde but got battered and bruised that fight. To come back just 2 months later is setting yourself up for failure. Add adding the rehydration clause is even crazier. I don't give Canelo credit for that win, but I also put 100% of the blame on Kovalev and his team for being so stupid.

4y ago

TernceBudCharlo

I get the point TBC is making. There are fights where the a side gets the benefit of the judges scoring or they get a blatant robbery win or draw , like Sweet Pea v Chavez. But The ATG fighters find a way to overcome a side advantages. Duran beating SRL. Floyd beating ODH. Bivol beating Canelo. Jmm over Manny. There are other examples when the A side got defeated despite having the advantages. Everything isn’t equal. Yes, a sides do get advantages. But you still have to fight the fight. Sometimes, as much as people hate to admit it, the a side proved to be the much better fighter. Floyd v Manny and Canelo. Roy v Toney. SRL v Hearns. Many others. The a side advantages didn’t determine the outcome, just one guy had better skills. The sore loser fans of the b side create fake narratives to justify the losses. That's exactly the point. Floyd had to overcome it big time when he fought Oscar. Let's look at Canelo's first high profile fight too. Against Austin Trout: 50,000 screaming fans all booing Trout. An absolutely ridiculous open scoring system that led to Trout having to change his style and take a knockdown. One absolutely ridiculous judge who had Canelo winning the first 8 rounds even though most ringside scorers had Trout up. Now let's compare that to Floyd's first big time $$ fight with Oscar - all the fans booing him, judges who scored it unfairly close for Oscar. Completely different.

4y ago

MikeyMike100

As far as the fans go I disagree. A fighter shouldnt be blamed for having a big following and for being popular. As far as rehydration clauses, and PED usage that is something to consider although I think rehydration clauses are fair and fights should be fought at weight that are near the weigh class.

4y ago

The_Big_Dunn

4y ago

TernceBudCharlo

Being the fan favourite can't be a criticism surely? Pacquaio was always the fan favourite almost every fight he had for example. It's the total package of making the playing field uneven, not just 1 thing. Pac's fights w Marquez or any Mexican fighter were always neutral. Even though he usually had the crowed in his favor, but canelo always has the crowd in his favor. Pac never got sketchy judging to the level of canelo. Neither did Floyd. He used a few catchweight but no rehydration clauses or anything nearly as bad as canelo.

4y ago

TernceBudCharlo

Of course you should be penalised if you have home advantage. Also if you want a win to be deemed great you need to give a rematch that's the least you can do. I mean Floyd wants his wins over pac and nel o to be deemed great wins he needs to give a rematch at the very least There was no controversy in the wins over pac or Nelo. Pac won't maybe 3 rounds Canelo won zero.

4y ago

IronDanHamza

No I said EVERY fight Floyd fought was like Tom Brady or Jordan playing a road game. Every fight canelo fought was like Brady getting to play the super bowl in New England in the snow. You can't be a great if you always get to play home games. Being the fan favourite can't be a criticism surely? Pacquaio was always the fan favourite almost every fight he had for example.

4y ago

hugh_grant

Ask any professional athlete they'll tell you it's much harder to win on the road, why do you think Brady's record in away AFC championship games was so poor?? Of course you should be penalised if you have home advantage. Also if you want a win to be deemed great you need to give a rematch that's the least you can do. I mean Floyd wants his wins over pac and nel o to be deemed great wins he needs to give a rematch at the very least

4y ago

TernceBudCharlo

Who cares if fans booed Floyd when judges and refs had Floyd s back? Ask any professional athlete they'll tell you it's much harder to win on the road, why do you think Brady's record in away AFC championship games was so poor??

4y ago

TernceBudCharlo

So in other words Floyd did the same s**t but he gets a pass. No I said EVERY fight Floyd fought was like Tom Brady or Jordan playing a road game. Every fight canelo fought was like Brady getting to play the super bowl in New England in the snow. You can't be a great if you always get to play home games.

4y ago

hugh_grant

Who cares if fans booed Floyd when judges and refs had Floyd s back?

4y ago

djtmal

Floyd was always the A side but every time he fought he fought in front of 20,000 booing fans. So in other words Floyd did the same s**t but he gets a pass.

4y ago

TernceBudCharlo

This kind of stuff has always happened in boxing. I can see the Champion getting some favors like ring size but as you pointed out Canelo took it to a whole other level. It blew up in his face when he fought a good mobile fighter in his prime. He wasn't even competitive with Bivol. I agree but has it ever happened this badly? Floyd was always the A side but every time he fought he fought in front of 20,000 booing fans. I think you agree when you said canelo took it to a new level, thats what I was getting at.

4y ago