Zab was a pure boxer and was beating Floyd to the punch and outboxes him for 4 straight rounds but like Floyd said in the post fight interview, "i knew Judah is a front runner" 4 rounds is all zab had in the tank and faded after that.
He was never closer than 3 weight classes above Floyd at any point where both guys were active.
It's like asking why Nonito Donaire doesn't fight Kambosos.
OP should have listed the ''pure'' boxers May avoided.....most OP's don't know how to structure a thread
He's the only pure boxer that had a chance.
He was never closer than 3 weight classes above Floyd at any point where both guys were active.
It's like asking why Nonito Donaire doesn't fight Kambosos.
Winky Wright? Are you guys high?
Floyd was at 135 while Wright was at 154. They weren't even close to the same size at the same time. Winky finished off at 175.
He's the only pure boxer that had a chance.
For the first time, I would genuinely feel bad for Floyd had he been forced to fight Paul Williams.
Limited Margarito did pretty well for a face first, slow AF, no plan B MFer.
Floyd didn't fight many pure boxers in his career.
Who were some pure boxers he could have fought? And how would he have done against them?
May was a pure boxer
PBF, however, was more of a puncher/boxer.
No one was going to outbox May :lol1: !!!!
It would be pretty boring to see him vs guys like Winky.
May would force their hand at being the aggressor.
Floyd and Winky Wright was friends actually however Promotional Politics and Promoters EGO once again ruined what would've been a great fight. Gary Shaw wanted 50/50 for Winky, Bob gave him the runaround, Gary Shaw thought the entire time he was getting 50/50, Arum comes out and say he never agreed to 50/50 just went it looked as if the fight was happening and somehow it is Floyd who "Priced Himself Out"
Gary was difficult too though not just Bob, which explains why all of his fighters ultimately left him. Gary also ruined Winky Wright vs Oscar De La Hoya another fighter I regret not seeing. Winky was offered $6 Million plus some PPV %...Gary Felt Winky should get Tito Trinidad Money ($10-$15 Million despite Winky not being a major draw at the time) so it is not just as simple as "Floyd Ducked!" which is what some fans seems to be just obsessed with
- - I'm just recalling the first few days when l'l floydy couldn't or wouldn't answer his phone according to Arum. Don't even know if Arum would want to risk his star fighter against Wright, but l'l floydy calling out Winkster was his first foray into 154.
Winky Wright? Are you guys high?
Floyd was at 135 while Wright was at 154. They weren't even close to the same size at the same time. Winky finished off at 175.
Weight and size don't come into it with Mayweather, a testament to how great he became is the criteria they hold him to, even while they hate on him with the most ridiculous comments they are really paying homage to him and they are too stupid to know it. 90% of these people know nothing about boxing they are just fans feeding seagulls.
Winky Wright? Are you guys high?
Floyd was at 135 while Wright was at 154. They weren't even close to the same size at the same time. Winky finished off at 175.
- - l'l floydy calls out Wink, and the next day Wink and team show up at Top Rank. l'l floydy nowhere to be found and won't answer his phone way up in the hills he be hiding out in.
What grade was U in then, 2nd?
Floyd and Winky Wright was friends actually however Promotional Politics and Promoters EGO once again ruined what would've been a great fight. Gary Shaw wanted 50/50 for Winky, Bob gave him the runaround, Gary Shaw thought the entire time he was getting 50/50, Arum comes out and say he never agreed to 50/50 just went it looked as if the fight was happening and somehow it is Floyd who "Priced Himself Out"
Gary was difficult too though not just Bob, which explains why all of his fighters ultimately left him. Gary also ruined Winky Wright vs Oscar De La Hoya another fighter I regret not seeing. Winky was offered $6 Million plus some PPV %...Gary Felt Winky should get Tito Trinidad Money ($10-$15 Million despite Winky not being a major draw at the time) so it is not just as simple as "Floyd Ducked!" which is what some fans seems to be just obsessed with
Floyd fought everyone who might of had a chance to beat him. I wish he would of been 5 years older to see him fight peak Delahoya, Mosely, Cotto, Winky……. I also would of loved to see what he would of done with men like peak Whitaker.
I believe Delahoya would of beat him at 140.
I would have liked to see Floyd fight someone like Devon Alexander. A pure boxer with speed.
Not that I think Alexander would have had a chance against Floyd.
A fighter who primarily fights on the outside and has high technical skills. You know, like Devon Alexander.
Well at elite level, I don't think fighters can just fight on the outside. Would you say that Andre Ward was a pure boxer?
I know what you mean, I just don't think there are many fighters who choose to just fight on the outside at elite level. And the best fighters, understand that they have to be multi-dimensional in their game.
In the heavyweight division you may see this, due to the era of the super heavyweights. When Super Heavyweights go through their careers, fighting mainly old school heavyweights in terms of physique, they pretty much always fight the big man fight.
So they pretty much get by on pure boxing. Wladimir Kiltschko did this during his reign, and so did Lennox Lewis under Emmanuel Steward.
The Welter Weight division, due to the dimensions of the fighters there. I think you are more likely to see a pure brawler at elite level, than a pure boxer.
Marcus Maidana, Ricky Hatton, these were pretty much pure inside fighting brawlers. Sometimes the word brawler gets used, to describe a fighter with low skill. But in my opinion, high level inside fighting is more sophisticated than pure boxing and sticking to the basic fundamentals.
No idea what a pure boxer is.
Mayweather fought fighters with a high level of skill, maybe this is a pure boxer?
Was Oscar De La Hoya, not a pure boxer? Shane Mosley? Miguel Cotto? These guys could box etc.
At elite level, fighters I don't think can just be one thing. So maybe there will not be many pure boxers there.
But I still don't know entirely what you mean by a pure boxer.
A fighter who primarily fights on the outside and has high technical skills. You know, like Devon Alexander.
NOBODY was more Skilled than Floyd in his Prime and in his ERA...PERIOD!
Get over it people Damn!
However, I wanted to see Floyd vs Winky Wright and maybe even Vernon Forrest, however those didn't happen because anybody was ducking. In Fact Mayweather vs Winky Wright was Negotiated by Bob Arum and Gary Shaw and Talks Broke Down unfortunately. I don't think ANY of these guys that some people like to run around and say "He Would've Beat Floyd" would've actually beat Floyd BUT Floyd vs Winky would've been an intriguing fight stylistically
- - l'l floydy calls out Wink, and the next day Wink and team show up at Top Rank. l'l floydy nowhere to be found and won't answer his phone way up in the hills he be hiding out in.
What grade was U in then, 2nd?
Yeah. I agree.
I think he means technical, high boxing IQ guys like Juan Manuel Marquez and Canelo though.
Mayweather has fought many fighters with high technical ability, so if that is what the thread starter means? I don't agree with him saying, that Mayweather Junior has not fought many pure boxers.
It would be nice if the thread starter, explained a bit more what they class as a pure boxer.
I don't think Marquez or Alvarez are levels above Miguel Cotto in terms of technical ability. Did Cotto look confused and bewildered when he fought Alvarez? No.
Alvarez, Cotto, De La Hoya, Mosely, they are pretty much all in the same ability range.
Caleb Plant for example was not skill for skill out of place with Alvarez, but he was still sparked out 'It was not his level of skill that lost him the fight, it was his durability'.
Now when Mayweather fought Alvarez, from start to finish skill for skill 'Alvarez seemed out of place, completely shown a different level'.
So it would be nice if the thread starter, came back in here and explained what they mean?