Kambosos proved he will do whatever it takes to win, he will go out on his shield and not play it safe, haney when it came to adversity he held on and played it safe, haney will need to hurt kambosos and drop him a few times because he wont be able to win a decision in Australia
I disagree. Devin Haney has yet to reach the tip of the iceberg in his career. He is still only 23. if you are referring to the Jeff Horn vs Manny Pacquiao bout; You have to remember that Manny was 38 years old then and well past his physical prime when they fought. Otherwise, Pac would have stopped him rather easily when he had the opportunity to do so but due to advancing age and physical decline he just wasn't able to.
I disagree. Devin Haney has yet to reach the tip of the iceberg in his career. if you are referring to the Jeff Horn vs Manny Pacquiao bout; You have to remember that Manny was well past his prime when they fought. Otherwise, Pac would have stopped him rather easily when he had the opportunity to do so but due to advancing age and physical decline he just wasn't able to.
Now im starting to think the only Reason Haney took this fight is because he made a deal with the Devil and Top Rank is going to secure he gets the win. Why would Top Rank sign a young fighter like Haney to a multifight deal with ESPN for big money just to have him lose?
- - Heinie can't draw flies and couldn't dent a soap bubble if his life depended on it. It's better $ than he can command in his home country and home town:duh:
Now im starting to think the only Reason Haney took this fight is because he made a deal with the Devil and Top Rank is going to secure he gets the win. Why would Top Rank sign a young fighter like Haney to a multifight deal with ESPN for big money just to have him lose?
Anything can happen in boxing, so I'm not going to over-analyze things and just wait for the fight.
We'll see the result soon anyways. Everything is all speculation now.
Kambo has a great work rate. Haney is much more tentative. I feel like Haney should move away from potshotting and develop a high rate offense like Khan, Linares.
There’s a reason both of those high offense guys get put down a lot. Haney will have to make adjustments in the future, I don’t think kambosos is the guy to make him make those moves.
Of the “4 kings” Haney is easily the best boxer. Linares is a better offensive fighter than anyone kams seen. Kam can present some challenges for Haney, but he’s not a better boxer and he has a size disadvantage. We’ll see
Less than 2 years difference.
Exactly..he's been fighting longer.
Loma has good wins.
Didn't really include Loma in the 4 "kings" (Lopez, Haney, Davis, Garcia)...Loma resume is light years better than all of them.
Going back to my OP, Haney hasn't fought anybody and who he has fought had him hurt pretty bad. I think Kambo can hurt him so I'm not sure why Garcia's record has anything to do with this or Tanks or etc.
You're saying that Haney hasn't fought anyone, neither has Garcia or Davis. Everyone has fought no one until the day that they finally fight someone i.e Teofimo fighting Loma. All of the 135 lbers have been dropped (except Haney) and being hurt is apart of boxing, they are getting punch in the face after all.
Mayweather was hurt against Mosley & Saul Alvarez was hurt against Jose Cotto...that still doesn't diminish who they are as boxers.
Loma let those early rounds go, can't blame the shoulder for that. Loma 's best wins are smaller guys and Teo is not smaller so he was really tentative because Teo can crack.
Ok fine, I will go with that. Loma got shoulder surgery right after the fight.
What you're not looking at is Teo has 17 fights and so far his record is a lot better than Haney.
Of course his resume is better than Haney, Garcia & Davis....Lopez fought Loma.
Tank doesn't have the marquee names on it, but his record is a lot better than Haney.
He's been fighting longer...it better be.
Loma has 18 fights and 5 times a better record than Haney.
And a better record than Garcia, Davis & Lopez...it is what it is, this is Loma we are talking about.
A couple fights ago Haney was fighting 11-0 fighters, I mean come on man. Is this even a reasonable discussion or just some haterade?
Not following you here, the only one of the 4 "kings" that have fought anyone is Teofimo Lopez.
Garcia, Haney & Davis resume doesn't have a marquee name on it.
Hanes ain't fought nobody that's why. Linares is old and always been b-level at best. It's not a narrative, it's not a story, it's exactly what happened. I think the word fact would have been a better choice.
None of them have fought anybody except Teofimo (Loma with a bad shoulder) sooooooooo....
If Linares can hurt Haney, Kambo is going to give him bigger problems.
A boxer yesterday summed this up nicely:
Mykal(Michael) Fox
Kambosos has been dropped (hard)
Loma been dropped (solid)
Ryan dropped (hard)
Tank dropped (balance)
Teofimo dropped (flash)
But Devin is chinny? How do these narratives come about?
Haney been hurt in 1 fight (every fighter been hurt even Floyd) & Kambosos doesn't hit harder than Linares.
Kambo has a great work rate. Haney is much more tentative. I feel like Haney should move away from potshotting and develop a high rate offense like Khan, Linares.
Kambosos got a SD against a guy with a breathing condition...as a matter of fact, he gotten SD in his LAST 3 fights.
Haney will beat him (he just has more tools) but Kambosos flurries will impress the judge unless Haney does something about it.
One more thing about Haney power (15 KOs), it's better than Selby (9 KOs) & Bey (11 KOs) & those guys held Kambosos to a SD.
Kambosos will fight like a Tasmanian Devil, He's not slow that u can win by potshooting. He sparred Pac for 250rds. That means He's world class Stamina and skills. That's Big Balls for Kambosos that he takes this Undefeated defensive Guy to be his 1st Defense. Haney got no Power to worry about anyways. I dont think George will be discourage.Kambosos with a wide UD. 10-2
Kambosos got SD in his last 3 fights...Selby has 9 KO, Bey has 11KO & Haney has 15KO.
If Kambosos get the win, it won't be wide. Devin Haney is not Selby or Bey.
I think Haney has a 75% chance to beat Kambosos, even on decision. George may have just caught Lopez at the right time. He was going through some issues outside of boxing and in the ring, he was so mentally charged that it played into George's hands. That is not taking anything about from George because it was a hell of a fight. I just think, it was the best fight we may have seen from Kambosos.
There is a good chance, Haney puts on a very safety first win as he coasts to a boring decision because he simply outboxes Kambosos with little fan fare. I can see this happening and depending how easy he makes it looks, determines how the judges are going to score it. If it really looks lopsided, hopefully the judges get it right. If Kambosos even has a little bit of activity where it looks more exciting than Haney, there is a good chance the scores are super closed or that Kambosos even comes away with the steal, lol.
****ing as if that would happen.
Yeah it's a close fight and then they give up home field advantage.
Moot point anyway Haney is gonna pick this guy off all night and if Kambosos wants to fight like a tasmanian ****** he can get the Floyd-Hatton treatment.
Are you suggesting if Kambosos fights aggressively a referee will be in place to illegally interfere? I certainly hope not, that would be a disgrace.
Kambosos proved he will do whatever it takes to win, he will go out on his shield and not play it safe, haney when it came to adversity he held on and played it safe, haney will need to hurt kambosos and drop him a few times because he wont be able to win a decision in Australia
You don’t need power to win a boxing match. You should know that.
Have you people seen any Kambosos fight EXCEPT the one vs the worst version of Lopez ever?
He usually goes 50/50 with domestic level operators, that last fight was the exception but everyone on here acts like its the rule.
I’ve seen plenty of his fights. Look back through the threads, I said the Lopez fight wasn’t going to be what people think. Kambosos is a very smart fighter and had tools that were always going to trouble Lopez, I said it on here before the fight. Lopez like others may have underestimated him.
Also, none of those fights should have been split decisions anyway. He won them clearly enough. Besides, some fighters fight to the level of their opponents too much, he’s probably one of them.
He’s a world level fighter for sure with an excellent boxing brain. Seeing as I don’t think anyone in that weight class at the moment is truly elite, that makes him highly competitive with any of them.
It’s a good fight, I don’t think power is a big factor in the fight but it would certainly help Haney in this one if he had it.
Haney is nowhere near as defensively slick as he thinks. Kambosos has excellent timing, not great power but explosive with his timing which can really deter opponents. He made Lopez hesitant because of this.
Kambosos can also close range fast if needed and I think he can use that to get past the jab of Haney and almost take his jab away. He has a great style to do that.
For me, Haney only wins if he can establish and jab and distance, but that might lend itself to a negative display and if it’s close because of that, they judge might favour Kambosos.
Kambosos has a very good ring IQ. I was one of the few on here that give him a good chance against Lopez because he has the boxing brain and style to negate fighters. If he takes Haney’s jab away, which he could, he can win comfortably.