Both overrated in my books win against 38 old holyfield who was on decline and against washed tyson who doesn't care about boxing is not impressive
Win over 42 old klitschko while went life death with him is not impressive
Both have most overrated resumes in history but who is more overrated?
There are many HOF heavyweights with worse resumes than AJ.
Also, Fury and Usyk are the best H2H fighters the division has ever seen. So if this era is "pitiful", then I would hate to hear what you think about the division as a whole historically.
True. Most coming from the before tv era.
That is if AJ makes the cut.
Usyk can be a problem throughout many eras
Fury could thrive during wartime eras due strictly to his size.
I never understand what you mean when you ask people to name names for pac?. Nobody needs boast about who Pac beat, and it seems that's what you're asking us to do? Pac s already beat them and nothing more he needed to do, and Josh hasnt did all he needs to do.
I can name names Floyd has to beat to be Pac s equal if you want if that's what you're getting at
What good are accolades if you can't put a face to them
It's pretty simple
SINCE YOU FELT A NEED TO DO IT :lol1:
Just never with Pac.
You and djwhatever are the lone Pac mouth foamers, reluctant to sign off for good.
Stop frothing at the mouth and read through what I type slowly. I said "as long as Fury decides to box" it would be easy.
Pressuring would play into Whyte's hand. But Fury and SugarHill are aware of this. They will not pressure hard until Whyte gasses like he mostly always does.
Chisora tries to bob and weave under jabs. Whyte will be there to hit with it and cannot win the jab battle.
45% chance? Right. I guess you dropped a fat stack on Whyte or are you all talk? I give him ~10%. For comparison, I give AJ and Usyk ~20% and ~35% respectively.
Whyte is maybe more of a stylistic challenge for Fury at this stage of his career. Because 1: Fury does not use movement anymore. 2: Fury's clumsiness, is maybe at a all-time high. Or it seems to be approaching extremely high levels, like at the beginning of his career.
Fury using his old Riddler style, most likely would of beaten any version of Dillian Whyte easy. But the fact of the matter is, Fury no longer wants to put himself through the training in order to use that style 'And he has shown zero evidence that at 270 + pounds, he can use that style'.
I think Whyte may do well against Fury, because he has a good jab, the strength of Fury up close is not going to bother him. Both fighters in my opinion will be there to be hit.
The question is? Who will out last who?
I think eventually Fury will overhaul Whyte in a chaotic struggle.
Why are people allowed to make threads like this? This is not freedom of speech, it's being offensive for the sake of being offensive. EVERYONE knows Lewis was a great HW, it's canon at this point, but this fat bastard sitting at home in his stained undies is allowed to make a thread to insult one of the best HWs of all time. What a disgrace.
Holy Crap !
Shame you don't show that dedication to name names when it comes to Pac :lol1:
I never understand what you mean when you ask people to name names for pac?. Nobody needs boast about who Pac beat, and it seems that's what you're asking us to do? Pac s already beat them and nothing more he needed to do, and Josh hasnt did all he needs to do.
I can name names Floyd has to beat to be Pac s equal if you want if that's what you're getting at
Josh 6 years to overtake lennox.
Beat Usyk/fury, Joe joyce, Michael hunter, Tony yoka, Zhang zhilei, flip hyprgovic, Frank sanchez, Robert helenius, o tto Wallin
then Josh is lennox' equal. Basically beat everyone in top 15 current heavyweights over the next 6-8 years
Holy Crap !
Shame you don't show that dedication to name names when it comes to Pac :lol1:
Josh 6 years to overtake lennox.
Beat Usyk/fury, Joe joyce, Michael hunter, Tony yoka, Zhang zhilei, flip hyprgovic, Frank sanchez, Robert helenius, o tto Wallin
then Josh is lennox' equal. Basically beat everyone in top 15 current heavyweights over the next 6-8 years
Wasn't the first time.
Conn was beating Joe's ass in the 1st fight until he got too brave.
Holy took the HW div by storm.
Usyk may be the goods.
Blown up cruiser didnt do anything bar beating overrated AJ
Lost to bo blown up Cruiserweight
Wasn't the first time.
Conn was beating Joe's ass in the 1st fight until he got too brave.
Holy took the HW div by storm.
Usyk may be the goods.
Ali struggled against Mildenburger (who?). Holyfield lost to Moorer. Tyson, Lewis, etc. never fought southpaws.
So AJ loses to the greatest technician and southpaw to ever grace the HW division and he is terrible?
AJ was definitely overrated when sheep thought he was the best of this era. Some morons still think going life and death and getting knocked down by 41yo Klit is more impressive than winning 10 rounds in Germany against 10-year unbeaten Klit.
Lewis did not fight the best of his era in their primes in Bowe, Holyfield and Tyson. So even if you think the 90s is the strongest era ever, it is irrelevant. Also, does every fighter in that era get a reputation buff retrospectively? Was Pinklon Thomas some beast who would be better today? Fat cap.
Lewis' resume is vastly overrated. But I value H2H ability far more and he ranks well here.
Sadly, there are no HOFers in this pitiful HW era for AJ to fight. Much less beat.
Ali struggled against Mildenburger (who?). Holyfield lost to Moorer. Tyson, Lewis, etc. never fought southpaws.
So AJ loses to the greatest technician and southpaw to ever grace the HW division and he is terrible?
AJ was definitely overrated when sheep thought he was the best of this era. Some morons still think going life and death and getting knocked down by 41yo Klit is more impressive than winning 10 rounds in Germany against 10-year unbeaten Klit.
Lewis did not fight the best of his era in their primes in Bowe, Holyfield and Tyson. So even if you think the 90s is the strongest era ever, it is irrelevant. Also, does every fighter in that era get a reputation buff retrospectively? Was Pinklon Thomas some beast who would be better today? Fat cap.
Lewis' resume is vastly overrated. But I value H2H ability far more and he ranks well here.
He lost to blown up Cruiserweight