If Ward grew some balls and came back and beat a tune up at 175 at the end of May and said he wanted Canelo in September, who would be the betting favorite and who would win it?
If Ward happened to pull it off, what does that say about Ward/Canelo
Lol at the Ward haters... Everyone entitled to only two things: an opinion and an a s shole... and if some people get them mixed up? Well eventually they will figure it out.
Two great fighters. Ward was perpetually underestimated, including at the super middle tourney. Prime for prime? I favor Ward. on a comeback? Ward is past his best not a fair comparison.
Ward outboxes Nelo, like lara and Trout did, then rips him inside.
Same issue with Ward. Body punches, uppercuts, and hooks around the guard won't affect or move Ward, just like Bivol. On top of that Ward is mauling dirty fighter like Hopkins on his best day. Canelo gets pieced up. Ward might even set him up like Kovalev and catch him with something big. Prime Ward at 168. Forget about it. Canelo is out here with rigged cards against the likes of Trout. Hydration clause on Kovalev and Fielding?
- - Wart ain't gonna get Weeks to allow him unlimited access to Canelo crotch.
Wart couldn't even put a dent in Allan Green who had most of his bowels removed the year before.
What grade they put U in this year?
I am not sure prime vs prime it would be easy night for Canelo. Ward wasn't super duper boxer but his inside game was almost unrivaled. Current Canelo enjoys beating out-boxers and walks them down. But, Ward was ugly and dirty inside/pressure fighter. I'd say 60/40 Canelo.
Same issue with Ward. Body punches, uppercuts, and hooks around the guard won't affect or move Ward, just like Bivol. On top of that Ward is mauling dirty fighter like Hopkins on his best day. Canelo gets pieced up. Ward might even set him up like Kovalev and catch him with something big. Prime Ward at 168. Forget about it. Canelo is out here with rigged cards against the likes of Trout. Hydration clause on Kovalev and Fielding?
ward fights nothing like mayweather. he doesn't even have the boxing abilities of plant and saunders. ward is good at headbutts, elbows, holding, and low-blows. he's good at cheating to victory in his hometown. i wish we had gotten golovkin vs ward back then because we most likely wouldn't be having discussions about what an amazing fighter ward is. golovkin would have wrecked him.
This. Ward is not a “slick fighter” Kovalev was outboxing him. He started winning rounds when he got on the inside. We all know how good Canelo is on the inside.
Still legit wins. I didn't think they had to skills to beat Ward when I watched the tournament. Ward was dirty but you need ATG level skills to f**k up his dirty game.
- - Only thing needed is the same deal with l'l Floydy. Lose the ref riding their backs the whole of the fight anytime they get on top of the hometown candy divas, and l'l floyd and Wart candy gonna melt.
Oddly enough, Wart challenged l'l Floydy to a 162 lb fight to reap a big purse, but wouldn't fight GGG at 164. GGG also challenged l'l Floydy at 154 for his titles, or at 155 for GGG titles, so l'l floydy and Wart share ducking GGG. Who'd ever thunk it?
Are we talking about the Ward that got his ass knocked down and beat like one of his ancestors? The blm thug got a gift that night, too? Look what Kova did to the thug. Canelo would have BLM, Al Sharpon, and the rest of the thugs cancel him. Ward better stay retired.
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Ward didn't need to use advantage in Super Six. All wins were clear.
- - Yeah, headbutt, clinch, hit on the break, clinch and headbutt some more, mix in a few lowblow combos and complain to the ref about the guy holding.
Clinch, rabbits, clinch, more rabbits ad infinitum, whoa now, a headbutt combo, now that's real top of the heap stuff:dance:
If you grew some balls you'd come through to Vegas and you could tell me that in person
- - Already been through Vegas on bizness and don't intend to return to that cesspool of bling and hookers. U in fine company.
I am not sure prime vs prime it would be easy night for Canelo. Ward wasn't super duper boxer but his inside game was almost unrivaled. Current Canelo enjoys beating out-boxers and walks them down. But, Ward was ugly and dirty inside/pressure fighter. I'd say 60/40 Canelo.
- - Wart won't fight Canelo because Wart was never an American star, always complaining about l'l Floydy purses.
He gonna do the same with Canelo who won't give him orchestrated home advantage Wart enjoyed in SuperSix where every other fighter who fought away from home took a loss.
Let him fight the sweet patootie he was training to beat Canelo. Two stinkers in the ring should be just what the Doc ordered to clear up U sinuses and constipations:dance:
I am not sure prime vs prime it would be easy night for Canelo. Ward wasn't super duper boxer but his inside game was almost unrivaled. Current Canelo enjoys beating out-boxers and walks them down. But, Ward was ugly and dirty inside/pressure fighter. I'd say 60/40 Canelo.
I think that's a fair assessment.
Canelo, it shouldn't even be close. Even the best version of Ward gets worked over by the current version of Canelo. Ward got a gift versus Kovalev first time out and should have been DQ'd in the rematch. Canelo beat him clean and decisively.
Why the hell would a fan say if Ward grew some balls to come back and fight anybody. The dude is beyond retired so even after a tune up he would have so much stacked against him it would be a lose lose situation for Canelo. If Ward pulled out the win it would be a devastating loss for Canelo and if Canelo won then he beat a retiree that stood no chance. Stupid thread.
"stupid thread" yet you still went in to post rather than leave that "stupid thread" alone.
i'd say you're the stupid one
even at this point i'd still love to see ward vs canelo. ward either schools him or canelo knocks him the f out, win win for me
enjoy watching canelo and Yildirm type fights
If Ward grew some balls and came back and beat a tune up at 175 at the end of May and said he wanted Canelo in September, who would be the betting favorite and who would win it?
If Ward happened to pull it off, what does that say about Ward/Canelo
Why the hell would a fan say if Ward grew some balls to come back and fight anybody. The dude is beyond retired so even after a tune up he would have so much stacked against him it would be a lose lose situation for Canelo. If Ward pulled out the win it would be a devastating loss for Canelo and if Canelo won then he beat a retiree that stood no chance. Stupid thread.
- - If U grew some baIIs, U be one up on baIIless Wart and be fighting Canelo, not Wart.
If you grew some balls you'd come through to Vegas and you could tell me that in person
If Ward grew some balls and came back and beat a tune up at 175 at the end of May and said he wanted Canelo in September, who would be the betting favorite and who would win it?
If Ward happened to pull it off, what does that say about Ward/Canelo
- - If U grew some baIIs, U be one up on baIIless Wart and be fighting Canelo, not Wart.
Andre Ward easily. Too skilled, canelo Never faced anyone close to his level except tiny ass Floyd. Ward is indisputably the second best boxer of this era.