I want to see the fight as much as the next guy, but given the current situation its worth considering it.
FIFA kicked Russia out of the world cup, UEFA did the same to Russian clubs. Most sports organizations are doing the same.
I don't have anything against Bivol, but playing Russian anathem and waving their flag would legitimize Russia as a country and make it seem like nothing happened
Not to mention, the fight is on DAZN which is owned by one of Putin's Russian oligarchs buddies
Obviously it will probably not happen because there's too much money on the table for Canelo from that deal with DAZN but it would be nice if he did it
I want to see the fight as much as the next guy, but given the current situation its worth considering it.
FIFA kicked Russia out of the world cup, UEFA did the same to Russian clubs. Most sports organizations are doing the same.
I don't have anything against Bivol, but playing Russian anathem and waving their flag would legitimize Russia as a country and make it seem like nothing happened
Not to mention, the fight is on DAZN which is owned by one of *****'s Russian oligarchs buddies
Obviously it will probably not happen because there's too much money on the table for Canelo from that deal with DAZN but it would be nice if he did it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3HTwzuFpmM
Honestly, I don't get why Canelo wants to campaign at 175, he doesn't belong there, he's too small and Bivol is the real deal, dude's a killer.
Canelo should stay at 168 and have a tournament with GGG, Charlo, Andrade, Benavidez etc,,,,
Nah canelo should campaign at 175, the idiots you mentioned are the ones that need to have a tournament among themselves
Honestly, I don't get why Canelo wants to campaign at 175, he doesn't belong there, he's too small and Bivol is the real deal, dude's a killer.
Canelo should stay at 168 and have a tournament with GGG, Charlo, Andrade, Benavidez etc,,,,
And Max Shemling was around in the Nazi days and he didn't believe what they thought.
Not sure if you were supporting my post or if it seemed I was implying that Bivol was a Putin supporter. But, for clarification, I don't make any assumptions about what Bivol supports. And I don't think it matters. Sanctions and stuff are just countries' and, in this case, the world's way of sending a message to the oppressor.
Your example of Schmelling might be an oversimplification. I don't want to besmirch a dead person's character, and I didn't know the guy. But it seems that while Max didn't join the Nazi party, he was cozy with them. If you haven't researched it online, and care to, see what you think. At any rate, he respected Louis as an opponent, and sometimes that is the best we can hope for.
Putin may hate Ukrainians, but if he respects them as an opponent, which I don't know if he thinks that way about any country other than China, then their lives will be better.
I said he could, not should lol, there a lot of scenarios how things could go.
You said..."if canelo wants to send a message what better way than to condemn Russia throughout training camp " among other nonsense, thats not saying "could" that is suggesting "should"...I said canelo should stick to what he knows and thats boxing not wars which he has no idea how they started. Keep it about boxing...
I dont know how canelo feels about the war and what ever opinion he has is his that is why I am not saying he should "condemn" Russia or anything else like your saying. What I am saying is canelo is a boxer and should concentrate on his training and on his fight with Bivol and nothing else. In other words concentrate on his job...
I said he could, not should lol, there a lot of scenarios how things could go.
Everybody with influence is a diplomate whenever they open their mouth, how do you know how Canelo feels about the war, he may have friends in Ukraine
The Ukraine invasion is going to affect the entire world in many ways, maybe Canelo is sickened by the vision coming out of Ukraine and wants to use his influence to help them in some way.
It's all speculation Canelo will do what he wants to do.
I dont know how canelo feels about the war and what ever opinion he has is his that is why I am not saying he should "condemn" Russia or anything else like your saying. What I am saying is canelo is a boxer and should concentrate on his training and on his fight with Bivol and nothing else. In other words concentrate on his job...
no its fuking stupid. Bivol and GGG are not in positions of power. They do not make decisions on behalf of the Russian government. Its bad enough we might lose fights from Usyk and Lomachenko and if they have relatives there then I dont see how they could be 100% focused anyways.
Anyone who wants to fight should be allowed to fight and the stupid sanctioning bodies need to do their job and sanction the fight. China openly commits genocide and they still hosted the olympics and nobody said chit or refused to participate in the olympics and the NBA doesnt mind their money pouring in like others pointed out.
They are called scapegoats and pawns, the entire diplomatic doctrine is through using symbolism, posturing and verbal chess. where do you think this saying comes from The Pen is Mightier Than The Sword.
Why would canelo do that? What has Russia ever done to canelo or his country? What does canelo know about this conflict? Canelo is a boxer not a diplomat.
Everybody with influence is a diplomate whenever they open their mouth, how do you know how Canelo feels about the war, he may have friends in Ukraine
The Ukraine invasion is going to affect the entire world in many ways, maybe Canelo is sickened by the vision coming out of Ukraine and wants to use his influence to help them in some way.
It's all speculation Canelo will do what he wants to do.
no its fuking stupid. Bivol and GGG are not in positions of power. They do not make decisions on behalf of the Russian government. Its bad enough we might lose fights from Usyk and Lomachenko and if they have relatives there then I dont see how they could be 100% focused anyways.
Anyone who wants to fight should be allowed to fight and the stupid sanctioning bodies need to do their job and sanction the fight. China openly commits genocide and they still hosted the olympics and nobody said chit or refused to participate in the olympics and the NBA doesnt mind their money pouring in like others pointed out.
If Canelo wants to send a message what better way than to condem Russia throughout camp, wear Ukraine colors trucks boots and gloves, then KO Bivol and then denounce Putin in the after-fight interview.
I can see Canelo being a Marta in this fight with a massive impact on his career.
Why would canelo do that? What has Russia ever done to canelo or his country? What does canelo know about this conflict? Canelo is a boxer not a diplomat.
If Canelo wants to send a message what better way than to condem Russia throughout camp, wear Ukraine colors trucks boots and gloves, then KO Bivol and then denounce Putin in the after-fight interview.
I can see Canelo being a Marta in this fight with a massive impact on his career.
Should canelo be banned from fighting because Mexico has 80 percent of cocaine that ships to America or Europe and thousands are tortured and beheaded on a monthly basis.
politics should not enter sport and athletes should bare the consequences of governments and there actions
The only one acting like a child or a female menstruating is you, dumbass clown. You are a coward and a b!tch. Dumb as hell too. Neither I or anyone with actual balls cares that clowns/b!tches like you are so upset about the Ukraine/Russia situation that you are calling for a boycott. You are trying to blame an innocent fighter for no logical reason. That is what a child or woman with a bleeding vag does. Go get on the frontlines you piece of sheeit, really show Russia how tough you perceive yourself.
1. It's not a situation. It's a full-scale war initiated by Putin.
2. Nobody here knows if you have balls or not, and flaming people with your keyboard doesn't prove anything.
3. Who's innocent? Bivol? Russians who love Ukraine, but still have to suffer the world's boot on their economy because that's the only way to hit Putin? Or maybe Ukrainians who were living lovely, as much as possible there, and next thing they're bombed and invaded?
You're entitled to your opinion about sanctions and stuff. but just because somebody didn't give the "go" command, doesn't mean they escape the consequence. Otherwise war wouldn't even be an issue, because people who wanted to war could only do it against eachother, and the rest of us would just chill. That aint real life.
Is it Bivol's fault? What a silly thread.
There's millions of Russians who hate the idea that Putin invaded Ukraine. There are many relatives on both sides.
Is it their fault? No, but they still endure the consequences of Putin's action, and his "advisors'" inaction.
Am I the one who squashed the US energy production industry and turned us from a net exporter of energy to a net importer in just a year? No. But I'm still paying twice the price at the gas pump.
That's how it goes.
Not here to talk geopolitics or take any sides but how would taking a man's right to feed himself and his family solve any problem? Are they gona strip Beterbiev too? Cmon man get real!
You are a coward and a b!tch. You lack common sense and think like a fairy. Change your tampon, your feminine bleeding is flowing heavily. Only a b!tch thinks the way you do. Take your keystroke soldier ass over to the frontlines of Ukraine. You lack the balls for that though since you are a cowardly b!tch. Pull your skirt up, hoe.
You are either a woman or a child if this is the way you respond. Either way, you are not a real man. Again, neither I or anyone with any balls cares that people like you are upset because you might not get to watch a sports match.
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