Pac by murder. You guys seriously think Brook would of lasted? Prime Pac was unpredictable as f**k to go along with his blinding hand speed that had pop. Not to mention Pac loved to exchange and dropped or hurt a lot in those exchanges. Kell would of got badly hurt and more than likely dropped as well in those exchanges.
Besides Shot Margarito* and Shot DLH*, who did Pac kill at WW ?
Pac would not fight prime Brook without an *
Cotto = catchweight , not a broken fighter. Didnt he go on to have some brutal wars with marg, fought mayorga, mayweather and Saul?
Mosely = noo catch weight but was on the tail end of career. Still had his power and was bigger than manny who drove him back all night and knocked him down
Thurman = had some good wins before his lay off. Not a catch weighf . He was driven back all night
Rios not a catchweight. He had sone good wins after the pac defeat too.
Marg - catch weight of 150lbs, manny weighed in at 144lbs. Enough said.
Which fighter brutalized him like that ?
1) Pac would NEVER fight the version of Cotto May did. FACT
2) Mosley destroyed your favorite boogeyman. You can't be the man unless you beat the man who beat the man !
3) Thurman had a piss poor performance and a vacation
I can't believe you're defending Shot Rios (Baby Margarito :lol1: ) !!!
The Catchweight King is a great name :fing02:
Pac by murder. You guys seriously think Brook would of lasted? Prime Pac was unpredictable as f**k to go along with his blinding hand speed that had pop. Not to mention Pac loved to exchange and dropped or hurt a lot in those exchanges. Kell would of got badly hurt and more than likely dropped as well in those exchanges.
Without a CW or broken opponent Manny struggled big time, you boys see Manny beating handicapped guys and cant understand how much the handicap played into it, who did Manny destroy without a CW or coming of the heels of their biggest loss, name them ?
Cotto = catchweight , not a broken fighter. Didnt he go on to have some brutal wars with marg, fought mayorga, mayweather and Saul?
Mosely = noo catch weight but was on the tail end of career. Still had his power and was bigger than manny who drove him back all night and knocked him down
Thurman = had some good wins before his lay off. Not a catch weighf . He was driven back all night
Rios not a catchweight. He had sone good wins after the pac defeat too.
Marg - catch weight of 150lbs, manny weighed in at 144lbs. Enough said.
Which fighter brutalized him like that ?
lol you got your order wrong and like to leave our major details.
Cotto was CWed after a cheat beating, why did Manny refuse to fight him without a CW TWICE, the same Cotto isn't it lol, Manny thinks its not the same Cotto that's why he ran off when Cotto said yes I will fight you but no CW.
Thurman was broken and badly, a little pathetic how you brush over him and say he had a layoff with no mention of the surgeries and poor showing nearly getting stopped by shop-worn Lopez, straight after that dismal performance Manny jumped on Thurman to avoid Spence, Thurman also said he was injured in the fight and needed more surgery, why do you think Manny was betting favorite against Thurman, because the bookies knew what was up.
Rios was B grade came of getting beat up by another B grade guy Alvarado at 140 and then Manny slaps on him OST blood testing that he himself refused to take to avoid the biggest fight in history, what a crock of steaming hot turd you swallow.
Margarito 2 yrs out after his hard KO loss to Mosley, he had one fight at 154 in Mexico and looked like sht , then Manny at a bs 150 CW, Margarito was refused a boxing license then Arum bought him one in Texas, the entire fight from timing weights ring size and glove size was a scam.
Mosley begged for a fight with Manny saying he would go to 142, Roach said no, roll on Mosley KOs Margarito and then Floyd beats Shane, Mosley then has a draw with B grade Mora, then Manny jumps up I will fight you now don't worry about a CW lol.
I could go on and on with details of Manny BS match-making, you're a typical head in the sand fanboy.
Pac by murder. You guys seriously think Brook would of lasted? Prime Pac was unpredictable as f**k to go along with his blinding hand speed that had pop. Not to mention Pac loved to exchange and dropped or hurt a lot in those exchanges. Kell would of got badly hurt and more than likely dropped as well in those exchanges.
Maybe you missed the CWs along with broken fighters and the blatant ducking of Cotto and Mosley until they were in unwinnable situations.
But I understand how you follow the hype built for average fans that don't know any better and also the ones that just ignore the real reasons Manny won, the world can sell ice to Eskimos when the masses are as dumb as a dense post.
Are you black?
Maybe you missed the CWs along with broken fighters and the blatant ducking of Cotto and Mosley until they were in unwinnable situations.
But I understand how you follow the hype built for average fans that don't know any better and also the ones that just ignore the real reasons Manny won, the world can sell ice to Eskimos when the masses are as dumb as a dense post.
Cotto = catchweight , not a broken fighter. Didnt he go on to have some brutal wars with marg, fought mayorga, mayweather and Saul?
Mosely = noo catch weight but was on the tail end of career. Still had his power and was bigger than manny who drove him back all night and knocked him down
Thurman = had some good wins before his lay off. Not a catch weighf . He was driven back all night
Rios not a catchweight. He had sone good wins after the pac defeat too.
Marg - catch weight of 150lbs, manny weighed in at 144lbs. Enough said.
Which fighter brutalized him like that ?
I think if I forget all the bs that doesn't matter and I look at it stylistically. I think if you were too build a fighter that is just flat-out wrong for Manny I think they likely look a lot like Brook.
A huge, athletic pinpoint counter-puncher with great fundamentals. I know Manny was way past his best at that point but I feel the Ugas fight is quite telling how it'd go.
Horn bullied Pacquiao all over the ring. Would be a long night for Pacquiao
Manny couldn't win without a CW which he would have imposed for sure, he put CWs on guys that were a lot smaller than Brook.
Manny was a protected species because of the popularity and money-making potential that Arum could see, he has the most opponent manipulated resume in history.
Come on now. I like Brook and think he’s been underrated and under-appreciated but prime Pac is a first ballot HOFer and ATG.
Too quick, too intelligent, too many angles, too much power
You forgot to add the many match-making advantages that Manny had going in, that's the real force behind Manny beating his biggest wins, he could never beat Cotto without a CW he wouldn't even fight him without draining him, twice he wanted to drain Cotto and Cotto told him to go suck a pole the second time around, and Manny ran off.
You saw what pac did to Marg, Thurman, Cotto, Rios, Mosley right? Maybe you missed those fights
Maybe you missed the CWs along with broken fighters and the blatant ducking of Cotto and Mosley until they were in unwinnable situations.
But I understand how you follow the hype built for average fans that don't know any better and also the ones that just ignore the real reasons Manny won, the world can sell ice to Eskimos when the masses are as dumb as a dense post.
Come on now. I like Brook and think he’s been underrated and under-appreciated but prime Pac is a first ballot HOFer and ATG.
Too quick, too intelligent, too many angles, too much power
Kell Brooks problem is he's a muscle man. Very strong, likes to wrestle guys, his strength means he can somewhat get away with his arm-punching technique which he uses in conjunction with a random stance he shuffles through willy-nilly, but his strength lies in manhandling guys(got him the win vs professional self-smotherer Porter). outside of that, always been heavy on his feet, no real defense outside of a turning into a philly shell statue and clinching(got him killed vs Spence), decent timing and boxing, like kavaliauskas has and also has that weak stamina, just like Kavaliauskas. Dude is basically Kavaliauskas but got a shot at Shawn Porter and not p4p top 3 Terence Crawford.
Competitive for a few rd's(Brook probably doesn't even take a rd early, Pacquiao is too sharp and fast, but he'd land his own decent shots), then Brook tires and Pacquiao beats the sht outta him. Prime Pacquiao would be like Spencex2 for Brook, he'd take much more punishment and likely get stoppd earlier.