Good on DAZN. They already lost money and might even might get shut down in Boxing. With the way economy is right now, they got to be smart with their investments. They can't be wasting money on some punkass Devin Haney unless he is willing to accept what he deserves.
Yea I don't get the Haney hype from black fans, and I say that as a black man, dude really isn't that good, and he's more known for running around with a ig ho then he is for his boxing, dude is a super simp
You're right on one thing and you're wrong on one thing.
You're right about his IG ho, the people in the Shaderoom only know who Haney is because of his ex & current IG ho.
You're wrong about Haney boxing skills, he is a good boxer but has no power. I love watching him box but he needs to realize that he isn't a KO artist and just be himself.
I'm saying this as a Black man as well.
you dickhead boxing fans act like he’s paying out his own pocket. Kambosos has said that he is setting the bar for the payday he wants to receive. DZN has also said they have paid Haney big purses and he has not drawn overly well. It is BUSINESS why tf are you talking about his nose size?
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Haney is all talk. This guy is not interesting. Boring, won his belt via email. Barely beat Linares, by holding on for dear life. Stuggled some with a blown up featherweight in JoJO. Dude has a head too big and a nose even bigger. Ellerbe and Bill love child?????
you dickhead boxing fans act like he’s paying out his own pocket. Kambosos has said that he is setting the bar for the payday he wants to receive. DZN has also said they have paid Haney big purses and he has not drawn overly well. It is BUSINESS why tf are you talking about his nose size?
They need to tighten the purse strings either way. As you said stop investing big money in non-attractions like Haney, Andrade, Farmer etc.
Exactly. Get rid of dead weight. Belt or not.
DAZN needs to keep its interest in boxing. I like what they have going on, and need them to think things through. Quit losing money.
I’m not sure. Hope not, as I enjoy the set up and cards
I think it’s closer to realizing Haney isn’t an attraction, has a boring tag/run around style and don’t want to pay for someone that isn’t even under contract.
They don’t care that he has a PRIDE belt or whatever his belt is called
They need to tighten the purse strings either way. As you said stop investing big money in non-attractions like Haney, Andrade, Farmer etc.
Haney is all talk. This guy is not interesting. Boring, won his belt via email. Barely beat Linares, by holding on for dear life. Stuggled some with a blown up featherweight in JoJO. Dude has a head too big and a nose even bigger. Ellerbe and Bill love child?????
Yea I don't get the Haney hype from black fans, and I say that as a black man, dude really isn't that good, and he's more known for running around with a ig ho then he is for his boxing, dude is a super simp
No surprise here. We ALL know Haney was gonna demand an astronomical purse and nobody's foolish enough to break the bank on him. This is why I have a problem with guys "in their own lane"...it sounds like a good thing until it's not.
So, Haney makes crazy paydays on his own...against guys that nobody's really falling out about. I get it. The rubber meets the road when said fighter is introduced to REALITY and there's another fighter and promoter at the table with figures that makes sense.
If he's averaging $3M per fight (or something close to that) and there's only $3M on the table to split between two fighters...what do you think is gonna happen? The fighter that's used to making those big paydays will have to take his ball and go home.
The Mayweather plan blows up in a lot of fighters' faces nowadays. If you're not THE show like Floyd was, you're gonna have to fall in line with what's on the table or walk away. Devin needs to wish Kambosos the best and move on....it's better for boxing fans that way.
Arum's gonna make Loma/Kambosos and things are gonna run SMOOTHLY! None of this funny stuff going on. I promise you, people won't even be thinking about a Haney/Kambosos fight once Loma/Kambosos is made.
Good post, although the first paragraph, let me ask you….if it was your million invested, would you take a risk with Kambo vs Haney and potentially losing it all, or being left with only $78k when it’s all done? Or would you want your money funneled into a Garcia Kambo fight where you can maybe get the million back and $78K in profits?
Ita easy to be mad at the execs when it’s not your money.
Im absolutely not surprised they want the Kambo vs Garcia fight.
Garcia has a name, has a following, has skills, has power, lends himself to a potentially more exciting fight vs Kambo, is the better looking kid.
The other is not a good looking kid, could potentially stink out the joint playing tag and running around the ring, has no following, no charisma, no personality and does nothing outside the ring but troll other fighters. On top of that has no long term contract signed.
Obviously DAZN is pushing in the direction we see now.
I've accepted for a long time that boxing is also a BUSINESS so it no longer upsets me when I see business moves made within the sport. So yeah it is their money and budgets so they have every right to want something more in return on their investments. Again DAZN have the numbers so they know best who bring the numbers on their APP and to no surprise Ryan is clearly more popular.
Haney is not a DAZN fighter no more. His contract was not renewed.
I don't know how it is in Australia, but it seems Aussies have very little interest in boxing.
They're big into crickets, soccer and all these other sports Europe and the rest of world,
Middle East, South America, Africa, China, etc. have a huge focus on.
I think boxing has a place. That Tzou kid gets massive love and fills out his fights.
They’re not Mexico or the US or the UK in terms of love for boxing, but when they have someone, they follow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC3ZQgGnIoo
Devin Haney is being strung along only to be left disappointed, I don't think Eddie is being honest with him as far as what DAZN truly thinks about Haney. I think Eddie is trying to keep his word to Bill and Devin Haney and deliver for them but Politics on top of Clueless Execs at DAZN who don't know a damn thing about boxing believes that Ryan Garcia Social Media Following can translate into more Subs for them but IT WON'T.
Who are we to argue with them though, they have a Analytics Department and they have the Numbers, so if they see Ryan Garcia vs Kambosos as the bigger fight then clearly they have the numbers when it comes to Views and Traffic for what both fighters fight on DAZN and I guess clearly Ryan Moves the Needle more. Doesn't mean he is a better boxer than Haney but for these EXECS at DAZN the Mission is to build up their Subscription Numbers, they don't give a F^CK about what some Hardcores want as far as "Undisputed" and all that. If it doesn't move the needle for them they could give a damn if those fights happen or not.
Good post, although the first paragraph, let me ask you….if it was your million invested, would you take a risk with Kambo vs Haney and potentially losing it all, or being left with only $78k when it’s all done? Or would you want your money funneled into a Garcia Kambo fight where you can maybe get the million back and $78K in profits?
Ita easy to be mad at the execs when it’s not your money.
Im absolutely not surprised they want the Kambo vs Garcia fight.
Garcia has a name, has a following, has skills, has power, lends himself to a potentially more exciting fight vs Kambo, is the better looking kid.
The other is not a good looking kid, could potentially stink out the joint playing tag and running around the ring, has no following, no charisma, no personality and does nothing outside the ring but troll other fighters. On top of that has no long term contract signed.
Obviously DAZN is pushing in the direction we see now.
You guys aren't using your brains. Haney hasn't been strung along by anyone.
Kambosis-Haney doesn't generate enough money/sub to be worth the investment to make for DAZN. Haney isn't even signed with DAZN right now. No matter who wins, each guy can take the money/titles and go somewhere else.
Kambosis-Garia, on the other hand, does generate a lot of money/interest. Garcia is a huge draw. And signed with DAZN.
As a result, DAZN is interested in making Kambosis-Garia.
Meanwhile they'll keep trying to build Haney up, and, if Garcia wins, they can do a huge unification with both fighters on DAZN in the USA and generate crazy money/subs.
If Garcia loses to Kambosis, they can still do Haney-Garcia for Haney's title and it's still a huge fight.
This way, everyone wins. Including Haney.
Haney is not a DAZN fighter no more. His contract was not renewed.
I don't know how it is in Australia, but it seems Aussies have very little interest in boxing.
They're big into crickets, soccer and all these other sports Europe and the rest of world,
Middle East, South America, Africa, China, etc. have a huge focus on.
Seems like the DAZN money is drying up. I think they’ll be out of the sport soon. It’s just not panned out like they hoped. Reminds me a bit of when Rocnation was throwing money about signing Ward, Cotto, Rigo etc but on a bigger scale.
I’m not sure. Hope not, as I enjoy the set up and cards
I think it’s closer to realizing Haney isn’t an attraction, has a boring tag/run around style and don’t want to pay for someone that isn’t even under contract.
They don’t care that he has a PRIDE belt or whatever his belt is called
DAZN realized Hearn has a boxer that has decent boxing skills.
But they’re the kind of skills that don’t attract shit. Playing tag, running around the ring and hugging the shiiit out of your opponent the second you get put on Queer Street.
DAZN knows Haney isn’t taking them anywhere. They aren’t paying top dollar to see him fight against anyone. Don’t care that he has a belt or not.
Why are people here blaming Haney when it's his network that's screwing him over? Haney needs to leave that garbage ass app if they prioritize Garcia and Loma over him.
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I heared they sign for cheep for WW'Rasslin tag team bout vs Feo and his fat Daddy.
Theyll just go the pbc route and make sh.it fights on ppv
Is that really viable on a streaming service though?
I liked the DAZN concept but it was never going to be sustainable.
Garcia has a name. That fight could work in Australia.
Over here, Kambosos will draw a few. Loma is barely known, Haney is completely unknown.
The 'big fight in Australia' has never made sense to me. Those fights do so much better elsewhere.
Put Kambosos up against some stiff. Aussies will still turn up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC3ZQgGnIoo
Devin Haney is being strung along only to be left disappointed, I don't think Eddie is being honest with him as far as what DAZN truly thinks about Haney. I think Eddie is trying to keep his word to Bill and Devin Haney and deliver for them but Politics on top of Clueless Execs at DAZN who don't know a damn thing about boxing believes that Ryan Garcia Social Media Following can translate into more Subs for them but IT WON'T.
Who are we to argue with them though, they have a Analytics Department and they have the Numbers, so if they see Ryan Garcia vs Kambosos as the bigger fight then clearly they have the numbers when it comes to Views and Traffic for what both fighters fight on DAZN and I guess clearly Ryan Moves the Needle more. Doesn't mean he is a better boxer than Haney but for these EXECS at DAZN the Mission is to build up their Subscription Numbers, they don't give a F^CK about what some Hardcores want as far as "Undisputed" and all that. If it doesn't move the needle for them they could give a damn if those fights happen or not.