In a recent interview, Bob Arum brought up the fact that Eddie Hearn didn't bother to attend the WBC convention this year and wasn't there to lobby on behalf of Dillian Whyte when the purse split for Fury-Whyte was being debated.
For the last four years, Hearn's public statements about the WBC rules, how you become mandatory, the rights of a silver champion, the rights of an interim champion, how final eliminators work, etc have been so consistently wrong that I've always just assumed Hearn is a con artist trying to fool the public.
But Arum's interview made me think about the possibility that Hearn is just incompetent and doesn't understand sanctioning body rules and how they operate. How could he have bungled Whyte's situation over and over for so long and then not even have anyone at the WBC convention to plead Whyte's case?
Most major promoters have people on the payroll whose job it is to study sanctioning body rules for any quirks that can be used to their advantage. PBC's promoters have pulled off all sorts of successful rules maneuvers that have left Hearn confused and upset. Is Hearn just incompetent at this aspect of his job? When he claims WBC interim champions are entitled to 45% of a purse bid, is it possible he's really just not aware that hasn't been the rule in over a decade? When he claims that being silver champion makes you the mandatory, is it possible he's really just not aware that the silver title has never made you mandatory?
Serious question. Have I been giving Hearn too much credit the last few years and the truth is that he just has no idea what he's doing?
Such a joke everyone acting like fury has done everything when he's fought two guys with credentials and the last guy was in 2015
He needs to defend against some different top fighters you know the way boxing is supposed to be
Look at Ali when he fought Ken Norton, styles make fights just because he beat wilder and most would pick wilder to beat whoever it doesn't mean that somebody like whyte couldnt be furys Ken Norton
He should be fighting top fighters back to back instead of claiming false greatness
Heck even otto wallin gave him hell
He came back after watching that polish guy szpilka box wilders socks off
He knows wilder isnt a great fighter he's picking and choosing who he fights for a reason
I sense another fury bum of the month run or a retirement
Espn has Wilder ranked higher than AJ.
And EVERYONE has Wilder ranked higher then Whyte who was knocked out by an old dude.
- - Nice to see U mention Deyonce's ESPN toiletry collection of delicate tissues.
We’ve already established your opinion is completely bias.
Wilder’s probably going to the HOF in all honesty.
- - U already established U gonna be Deyonce's delicate tissue papers...:dance:
In a division where being a paper champion means everything
Wilder is a bum
We’ve already established your opinion is completely bias.
Wilder’s probably going to the HOF in all honesty.
AJ wouldn't of gotten up from those Wilder knockdowns he gave to Fury. Your dudes chinny. Fights scurred now days. I mean he LOST to a last minute replacement.
I believe aj would have been sparked out by those shots yeah but I also believe he might not have had to take them if he countered wilder right
Look at furys first knockdown of wilder in the 3rd fight,those don't like big meaty punches wilder was hurt by
You seriously couldn't imagine aj doing a number on both these guys
ghost punches are far sharper and more calculated than that big right hand of wilders
If he hurt fury he would give him a cold and calculated sustained beating until he quit
Now, why would Hearn make an offer with contingencies that he hadn't worked out, particularly with his fighter Joshua agreeing to the fights?
The offer came from Skipper, not Hearn, and Skipper is an incompetent drug addict who ended up quitting anyway.
He waited too long to bring AJ to the US. He had the potential to be a star here in the states and an undisputed trilogy between 2 polar opposite guys who boast really high KO's would have made so much money.
No, Wilder didn't take far less money. Hearn offered $12 million to fight Joshua. Wilder made a lot more than that fighting Fury.
Pretty certain Wilder was to make $40mil for EACH of his 2 fights with Joshua had he accepted....
He was competent enough to hitch his wagon to Canelo and Joshua who bring in the most $ in boxing so he's doing something right. I wish I could be as incompetent as him in my buisness life lol
Now, why would Hearn make an offer with contingencies that he hadn't worked out, particularly with his fighter Joshua agreeing to the fights?
The deal wasn't with Hearn. John Skipper was facilitating the deal on behalf of DAZN.
The deal was contingent on Joshua winning his next fight and contingent on DAZN getting Joshua to agree to the fights, which wasn't guaranteed.
Joshua ended up losing his next fight, so Wilder never would have gotten the hundred million. Not to mention we've seen with Canelo and GGG that DAZN often refuses to pay what they promised anyway.
Now, why would Hearn make an offer with contingencies that he hadn't worked out, particularly with his fighter Joshua agreeing to the fights?
He was offered a three fight, $100 million dollar deal. As long as the money was guaranteed, so what if he didn't get an actual fight date with AJ up front? I bet Wilder wishes he had taken that deal now.
The deal was contingent on Joshua winning his next fight and contingent on DAZN getting Joshua to agree to the fights, which wasn't guaranteed.
Joshua ended up losing his next fight, so Wilder never would have gotten the hundred million. Not to mention we've seen with Canelo and GGG that DAZN often refuses to pay what they promised anyway.
Offered more money by DAZN, not Hearn. But Wilder's team turned it down because DAZN didn't have the rights to Joshua and couldn't guarantee the fight.
He was offered a three fight, $100 million dollar deal. As long as the money was guaranteed, so what if he didn't get an actual fight date with AJ up front? I bet Wilder wishes he had taken that deal now.
all these promoters know what they are doing, they know what they want out of a situation and try to make it so, lying, spoofing, games, half truths, they dont care as long as they get what they want
More boxing is ALWAYS better boxing. I watch it all and ignore the promoters.
They just doing their JOB!
Absolutely. I think last year there were 40 something cards on DAZN.
I enjoyed them all
Bob Arum gave his legal opinion and he was wrong. At the time I said I thought he'd turn out to be wrong.
Now that I've answered your question, please answer mine. Do you think Hearn was at the WBC convention lobbying on Whyte's behalf when the split was decided?
Don't know, don't gaf.
Bob Arum gave his legal opinion and he was wrong. At the time I said I thought he'd turn out to be wrong.
Now that I've answered your question, please answer mine. Do you think Hearn was at the WBC convention lobbying on Whyte's behalf when the split was decided?
Arum wasn't just giving his opinion. He gave multiple categorical assurances that the arbitration ruling couldn't stop Fury from fighting AJ.
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