Wladimir Klitscho was granted an 80-20 split of the purse against Pulev

Having a normal conversation with you is beyond that point . If somehow you actually got this one right it’s a first on here from what Ive seen ,and you claiming to be nonsensical things on here like a WBC insider when you can’t get an actual statement from anyone is absurd Is it possible that you've always been so obsessed with hating me that you've allowed that to blind you to all of the times I have been right about the sanctioning bodies? You're so busy hating me that you don't even notice when everyone is saying Spence vs. Ugas isn't happening, and there I am weeks before it's announced telling everyone it's happening. I don't care whether you consider me an "insider." I've been honest about the fact that I'm friends with the WBC. So yes, sometimes I have inside info. That shouldn't make me the enemy. A lot of things happen behind the scenes with the sanctioning bodies that they don't make statements about. It's a shady shady business. You can't expect a press release every time lobbying is taking place behind the scenes. You connive posters on here ,the fact the 70/30 ruling tells you unless a fighter is of exceptional market value which obviously is referring to a challenger you still try and make it out to be something different . How many times did you say 20% is fair on here already ? It is my OPINION that modifying the split to 80/20 is justified because Fury makes 15x as much as Whyte. If you have a different opinion, no problem. Doesn't mean we have to be enemies. My opinion is based on decades of experience working in the industry. Your opinion is based on being a fan. So you and I may look at different things when analyzing a situation. It's okay for us to have a different opinion. The only problem was that you were insisting interim champions are entitled to 45%. That's not true. No problem. You made an honest mistake. But why get mad at me that you were wrong? You don't think that's a little weird? you still haven’t told me all these fights Vitali had that were 80 / 20 so I can look . Where would you look? You're a fan. How are you going to find private contracts that were never made public? And then you'll get mad at me if I can't get the WBC to issue you a personal press release. It's ridiculous. I'll give you an example. Vitali vs Solis was modified to 80/20. Even though the Austin vs Solis winner was supposed to get 70/30. But it's a dirty game. Had Don King's fighter won, it would have been 70/30. But because Don King's fighter lost, K2 was able to get 80/20. That's how the game works sometimes. Now explain to me why the president of the WBC hasn’t enforced anything on Whyte if they had a minimum split they could enforce? The WBC ordered an 80/20 split. Whyte objected to the order, which is his right. In the event of a grievance, it's decided by arbitration. We'll get the result in March. It's really not that complicated.

- - Furry never had a big UK fight. Modest at best. Don't change that he and Whyte are effectively shot though still dangerous to each other. I'm not sure where you get that they're shot from. If anything, they are at or near the apexes of their respective careers. Perhaps on a decline, but only just so. "Shot" is an exaggeration.

Exactly what I was getting at but they chose to ignore it and make up things to cater to the narrative they have been trying to use . That's not true. You claimed the rules entitled Whyte to 45%. They don't. You then posted old rules from 2009 that haven't been in the rules section of the WBC website in over a decade. Did you post the old rules to try to trick everyone? Or did you not realize they were old? Wouldn't it be nice to be able to just have a normal conversation instead of you trying to fight all the time for no reason? We both know the rules don't say 45% anymore. If you made an honest mistake, just admit it and let's move on. It's silly to keep fighting when you're clearly wrong.

Interesting that you didn't seem to get these situations for Joshua's mandatories. He's never been WBC champion, so he's used to his fights being 80/20 or 75/25 splits anyway.

Except that's not what the rules say. They say 70/30 unless the challenger is of exceptional market value. That's not true. Rule 2.16 says "outstanding marketing value of one of the boxers," not specifically the challenger. Rule 2.16 does cover the acceptable modifications in favor of the challenger, but rule 2.6 allows the WBC to make any modification they want in favor of the champion. The WBC are using a completely different rule here. The one that says they can ignore pretty much any rule in the book. That's not true. You're thinking of rule 1.2 (the "in the best interest of boxing" rule). That is not what is used to modify in favor of the champion. Rule 2.6 clearly states the WBC can modify the split. And they can. But their rules on splits say 70/30 and can modify to 60/40, 55/45 or 50/50. Those are the modified splits allowed in favor of the challenger under rule 2.16, but you're overlooking rule 2.6 which allows the split to be modified however the WBC sees fit in favor of the champion. Modifying in favor of the champion is allowed in any amount. Only modifying in favor of the challenger is restricted to the listed amounts. Carl Moretti petitioned at the WBC convention to modify the split to 85/15, because when you modify in favor of the champion, you're not restricted to a specific amount. Fury's last filed purse was 15x higher than Whyte's last filed purse and Top Rank asked for 85/15. The WBC's ruling was 80/20. Convention says interim champions get 45. Because they have been getting 45 previously. Maybe that's Whyte's argument. But the rules say he's entitled to 30%. The rules on purse splits have changed many times over the years. 80/20 was the standard for a very long time. Joshua-Usyk was ordered at 80/20 by the way. Yes, over a decade ago, interim champions used to be entitled to 45%, but that hasn't been the rule in a very long time, so that's completely irrelevant now. So no, you can't say convention is that interim champions get 45%. That's simply not true. You seem to like arguing for the sake of arguing, but the facts aren't on your side. If it's your *opinion* that Whyte is deserving of the standard 70/30 split, fine. No problem. I disagree, but that's your opinion. However it's simply not true that interim champions get 45%. That was a very long time ago and has nothing to do with this situation.

Interesting that you didn't seem to get these situations for Joshua's mandatories. He's one of the biggest draws in the sport. ​​​​Presumably he accepted the splits as ordered and then probably paid overs with a rematch clause. I wonder what people on here would have said if he petitioned for his mandatories to get less than the minimum?

That's about as clearly as it can be explained. Those that don't get it are either too dumb or just plain refuse to accept it. Except that's not what the rules say. They say 70/30 unless the challenger is of exceptional market value. The WBC are using a completely different rule here. The one that says they can ignore pretty much any rule in the book. And they can. But their rules on splits say 70/30 and can modify to 60/40, 55/45 or 50/50. Convention says interim champions get 45. Because they have been getting 45 previously. Maybe that's Whyte's argument. But the rules say he's entitled to 30%. ​​​ Unless the WBC choose to ignore their rules. Which they ate indicating that they will do to accommodate Fury's request.

Shot! :lol1: And do you also believe that won't be one of the biggest fights in the UK next year? - - Furry never had a big UK fight. Modest at best. Don't change that he and Whyte are effectively shot though still dangerous to each other.

This account being the same name as that was. This account having the same profile pic. This account claiming to be super rich and make million dollar bets. You starting to use this account just after stopping posting on that one. You deleting posts and using the same amount of .......... All coincidences too right? Do you also claim to be a pro wrestler and promoter on this account too? Did you also work for PBC? :rofl: I'm happy to continue answering your questions, but you should do the honorable thing and answer my question. Did you purposely post old rules to fool everyone or did you make an honest mistake? If you answer my question, I will continue answering yours. If you don't answer my question, it's not right for you to keep asking me questions. It's very easy for someone to make a profile pic similar to mine. I've never claimed to be "super rich," but yes I have on a handful of occasions bet a million dollars on a fight if I have inside info. I've won more than I've lost and since I've always bet the underdog, I've done quite well. I have always used this account. I've never claimed to be anything other than a friend of the WBC. I don't work for PBC.

- - Furry and Whyte are demonstrably shot now, a different scenario. Shot! :lol1: And do you also believe that won't be one of the biggest fights in the UK next year?

Klitschko vs Pulev was not considered as big a fight as Fury vs Whyte by any stretch of the imagination. - - Furry and Whyte are demonstrably shot now, a different scenario.

You confirmed it by claiming i looked up the property you own. If you have never revealed your name how could i do that? :dunce: ****ing hilarious........ :lol1: When you said I live in an apartment (I don't) I assumed you cyberstalked me and found one of the rental properties I own. Since all of the rental properties I own are worth way more than I paid for them, I laughed at you for thinking you were insulting me by bringing attention to successful investments.

Klitschko vs Pulev was not considered as big a fight as Fury vs Whyte by any stretch of the imagination.

You are using fights with a lockdown enforced , Shoulder isn’t very bright he may actually believe what you’re saying but they aren’t going to use that against Whyte in fact Hearn can point out the time when Fury had to cancel his own PPV in the U.K vs Klitschko as a bargaining chip when no one wanted to see Fury and that’s right after he won the title . You're the one who isn't very bright. A champion can request that the purse split be adjusted from what the sanctioning body rules normally call for. Klitschko's 80-20 Purse Split Request Approved By IBF https://www.boxingscene.com/klitschkos-80-20-purse-split-request-approved-by-ibf--78303

You are using fights with a lockdown enforced If you want to argue that Whyte is a huge worldwide star deserving of more than the usual 70/30 split, be my guest. Just admit you were wrong that interim champions are entitled to 45%.

You made a major **** mr super IQ. You already confirmed in the post below i know who you are, proving that was you. Unless you revealed your name on this account? :rofl: No, it proves you were fooled by an imposter. I've never revealed my name. Seems you got trolled by a fake. Not surprising since you've been fooled by Eddie Hearn so often.

So your using an average split when you never provided any real information on an interim Champion split and claim that 45% is not valid anymore . There's no such thing as an interim champion split anymore. The current rules specifically state that being interim champion is irrelevant when it comes to the purse bid split. An interim champion is no different from a regular mandatory when it comes to the purse bid split. I'm sorry Eddie Hearn lied to you. I'm not the enemy here. Everything I'm saying is very clearly explained in the current rules. Heres a question,why are you the only one in the entire social media saying this ? For a few reasons. #1 - When Eddie Hearn lies about the rules, a lot of lazy journalists never check the rules to see if he's telling the truth. #2 - I have a better understanding of sanctioning body rules than most because when I worked for DKP part of my job was to study the sanctioning body rules inside and out. I've probably read the rules more than almost anybody on the planet. #3 - I've been friends with the WBC president for years and often make rule suggestions and on a few occasions have influenced rule changes. Instead of treating me like shit, you should appreciate the time I put in to trying to help.

Fury just generated 5 times more revenue for himself in his last fight than Shyte did for his. Without Shyte. :lol1: WAYYY more than that. Fury was guaranteed $30,000,000 for his last fight. With a filed purse of $6,000,000. Whyte's filed purse was $400,000, 15x less than Fury.

Fury won’t generate the same revenue without Whyte so it’s not facts at all . Fury just generated 5 times more revenue for himself in his last fight than Shyte did for his. Without Shyte. :lol1:

You posted pics of yourself holding paper with my name on, on that account you silly fat twat. :rofl: This is the only account I've ever had and I've never posted pics. Seems you got fooled by a troll. Not surprising since you get fooled by Eddie Hearn every day.