Interesting.....thought Whyte would be easy work for him, according to what hes said in the past.
http://www.yahoo.com/sports/fury-says-willing-drop-wbc-173200057.html
Yes, Povetkin was no joke, and I agree Whyte deserves his shot at the title. However, if I were Fury I'd move on and drop the belt. The fight isn't big enough at this stage in his career and frankly he doesn't have time to waste on it given that he has talked about retiring in the near future.
Fury always talks about retiring, lol. If he doesn't face his mandatory challenger in Whyte, it doesn't look good for his legacy as the HW champion of the world. He'll be doing the same thing that Wilder did- DUCK.
No you claimed the WBC made that statement
You're lying. I wrote "If the WBC is mandating 20%, why should Fury give him more?"
You also lied about the WBC rules entitling an interim champion to 45%. You then posted old rules to try to fool everyone. Why did you do that? Why did you lie to everybody?
If he drops the belt, he is not the best HW for me personally. First, he is avoiding defending title, second he lose potentially being unified HW champion. His fans can say it doesn't matter, but it does for all non bias boxing fans out there. If he drops the title, he will endup inactive again or fighting soft opposition boasting ring title (lol)
Im a Fury fan and i will be very disappointed if he drops that belt I don’t understand why he just doesn’t get Whyte out the way? He will no longer be relevant and he needs it for his resume. I would prefer him fight somebody else but he is mandated at the end of the day.
Fury might really be hesitant to fight Whyte because it's rumored he dropped Fury a few times in sparring. Whyte's style could cause Fury problems. It's easy to assume it'd be simple for Fury based on Whyte's two close fights with Chisora compared to Fury's dominating victory over Chisora in their rematch. But it often doesn't work that way in boxing. For example..
Shane Mosley got beat twice by Vernon Forrest
Forrest got beat twice by Ricardo Mayorga
Mayorga got beat twice by Shane Mosley
Not even Warren has claimed the WBC ordered the 80/20, he just stated whats what he offered Whyte. Rafael seems to have have been very sloppy with his reporting.
My sources were from everyone including the fighters involved and from actual insiders like Hearn and the Saurlands among top you tube channels and platforms like this very forum reported on ? Stop lying you just didn’t want to see you were proven wrong again .
No, you were proven wrong because you claimed I made the 80/20 split up.
You previously claimed the IBF said Hrgovic was fighting in a final eliminator and when I asked you for a statement from the IBF, you linked to a video of Michael Hunter and you were caught lying.
I claimed the WBC ruled 80/20 and respected journalists have reported the WBC made that ruling. Are you denying the WBC ruled that?
You've already been caught lying about interim champions being entitled to 45%. You even tried to trick everyone by posting outdated rules that no longer appear in the WBC rules section.
Why didn't you apologize?
Again I don't remember which belts was on the line personally, sure I could've easily google it or Boxrec but the point is MOST PEOPLE don't If or Which Belts was on the line for these Historic Fights
Most people may not know which of the world titles is at stake, but they know it's the most respected champion defending his legitimate title.
Wait a second that’s a written article that’s not the WBC statement,I gave you several links concerning Hrgovic final mandatory situations and you said that was just articles not an official statement so no .
Your source was a statement from Michael Hunter. Michael Hunter's statement was illogical and hasn't been supported by anybody.
Whereas Dan Rafael is a respected reporter with a long track record of reporting accurate information. Very different.
In terms of fights between two boxers, the biggest fights in boxing history are:
WBC & Super WBA world welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather vs WBO world welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao
Super WBA world super welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather vs WBC world superwelterweight champion Canelo Alvarez
WBC world super welterweight champion Oscar De La Hoya vs Floyd Mayweather
WBA world heavyweight champion Evander Holyfield vs Mike Tyson
WBC & IBF world heavyweight champion Lennox Lewis vs Mike Tyson
Again I don't remember which belts was on the line personally, sure I could've easily google it or Boxrec but the point is MOST PEOPLE don't If or Which Belts was on the line for these Historic Fights
I would love to know where you got that idea from.
https://danrafael.substack.com/p/wbc-addresses-the-mandatory-situation
Whyte is the mandatory, however the WBC punted in terms of ordering the bout next because Whyte is in arbitration with the WBC mainly over what the purse split would be. The WBC says 80-20, Whyte wants more.
Did Arum counter with a better offer than 20% or are they just staying with the opening bid? That's not how negotiations work.
If the WBC is mandating 20%, why should Fury give him more?
Whyte's only leverage would be trying to sell Fury a rematch clause, but Fury doesn't seem to want one.
All I can say is good luck to Whyte if he feels he could strong arm more money out of Bob Arum. Eddie needs to talk to him. He knows darn well that he is not worth 45 percent of the purse split.
It looks to me that he is more interested in breaking the bank rather than becoming a Heavyweight champion. How much money does Dillian need to fight man? All that barking he did at Wilder; He never wanted to fight Wilder and he never wanted to fight AJ for all the belts again.
All he ever wanted was a substantial pay raise from Wilder, Joshua and Fury. If he doesn't want this opportunity then give it to someone who does like Otto Wallin. He'll fight Tyson Fury for free just to get his hands on that WBC heavyweight title..
The biggest fights in boxing history, I don't even remember nor did I give a sh^t what Belt was on the Line for those fights.
In terms of fights between two boxers, the biggest fights in boxing history are:
WBC & Super WBA world welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather vs WBO world welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao
Super WBA world super welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather vs WBC world superwelterweight champion Canelo Alvarez
WBC world super welterweight champion Oscar De La Hoya vs Floyd Mayweather
WBA world heavyweight champion Evander Holyfield vs Mike Tyson
WBC & IBF world heavyweight champion Lennox Lewis vs Mike Tyson
Most of what you said is the reason why Fury won’t fight him next ,a fighting man though ? :lol1:
His overall perception for me has done almost an entire 360 . He’s actually bottling his momentum he gained from the Wilder fights and throwing it away for a reluctance of fighting a guy he says is an easy fight but he’s the only one in his team saying it .
This is now the perfect situation for Whyte to physically confront Tyson Fury. At the end of the day, that is the type of action 'Fury as fighting man, will understand'.
I told you awhile back, that sometimes 'Fighters have to go old school'.
There is a demand or Whyte vs Fury, as it is a big domestic fight. But if Whyte was to confront Fury in person, have a little back and forth or even a jostle 'This fight's market value will completely go through the roof'.
Note: I don't think this will happen, but this is the next cause of action I would like to see.
I can remember when Chisora confronted Whyte, suddenly that fights market value increased.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxJs-6ScYFw
Big Fights>BELTS!
Boxing Fans...we're not consistent here, today we scream "Belt Organization Suck!" then tomorrow it is "Fury Need To Defend His WBC Belt vs Whyte" so which one is it?
I will be honest...Never gave a SH^T about undisputed. The biggest fights in boxing history, I don't even remember nor did I give a sh^t what Belt was on the Line for those fights. So I don't know when this garbage of Must Be Undisputed started because before all this the Biggest Superstars and the biggest Draws in Boxing never made a big deal about Belts.
It is not a Mega Fight in the Heavyweight Division that doesn't include Fury, so F^CK a "BELT"
I understand people may dislike Dillian Whyte. But the man deserves a title fight.
I have noticed people keep bringing up, the possible fight he turned down to face Anthony Joshua.
That fight would of been at short notice, because Jerrell Miller had just been done for performance enhancing drugs.
If Whyte was being offered a fight at short notice, I don't really think people can criticize him for turning that fight down. If Hearn really wanted Whyte vs Joshua II, to happen? He should of rescheduled the fight in New York, so Whyte could of a longer time to prepare.
People go on in boxing, about seeing the best facing the best. That is all good and well, but sometimes? What I want to see more than anything 'Is passion'.
Dillian Whyte vs Tyson Fury is a match up, which has passion and brutality. It is another fight for Tyson Fury, where his opponent has a genuine dislike for him 'Hostile competition'.
Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder, was a better fight and event than Anthony Joshua vs Oleksandr Usyk. It was also better than Teofimo Lopez vs Vasiliy Lomachenko. I could go on and on, basically it was the best fight and boxing event of 2021.
And it was the best fight, because it was total warfare. Both inside the ring, and outside the ring.
Tyson Fury vs Dillian Whyte is a very similar fight. The reason why I say this is because, Fury is clearly irritated and displeased with Whyte 'And Whyte is going to push back'.
I think the fight has to happen.
- - Both Furry and Whyte punch drunk by now, so should be a great fight for lowbrows.
I understand people may dislike Dillian Whyte. But the man deserves a title fight.
I have noticed people keep bringing up, the possible fight he turned down to face Anthony Joshua.
That fight would of been at short notice, because Jerrell Miller had just been done for performance enhancing drugs.
If Whyte was being offered a fight at short notice, I don't really think people can criticize him for turning that fight down. If Hearn really wanted Whyte vs Joshua II, to happen? He should of rescheduled the fight in New York, so Whyte could of a longer time to prepare.
People go on in boxing, about seeing the best facing the best. That is all good and well, but sometimes? What I want to see more than anything 'Is passion'.
Dillian Whyte vs Tyson Fury is a match up, which has passion and brutality. It is another fight for Tyson Fury, where his opponent has a genuine dislike for him 'Hostile competition'.
Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder, was a better fight and event than Anthony Joshua vs Oleksandr Usyk. It was also better than Teofimo Lopez vs Vasiliy Lomachenko. I could go on and on, basically it was the best fight and boxing event of 2021.
And it was the best fight, because it was total warfare. Both inside the ring, and outside the ring.
Tyson Fury vs Dillian Whyte is a very similar fight. The reason why I say this is because, Fury is clearly irritated and displeased with Whyte 'And Whyte is going to push back'.
I think the fight has to happen.