Canelo Ducking Beterbiev: Getting In The Ring With Beterbiev Is Like Standing In The Street With Oncoming Traffic

They'll get Beterbiev to sell his soul just like Kovalev. Maybe only allow him to rehydrate 4-5 lbs 1 hour before the bell last weigh-in. It has to be extreme for a midget to beat him at 175. Not sure you can drain Bivol given it seems he is a tweener 68-75. The fraud will find a way, nothing straight up with him. Funny thing, Hearns was a spark puncher at 154 and under but the bigger guys would take shots 160 and up. Canelo can't drop Angulo or Chavez in his face 154 but can stop bigger men. Make sense of that.

Sure. Fair enough, but Beterbiev fought in the amateurs for a long time, so by the time he went into the pros, he was a mature adult. Canelo was able to fight in the lower weight classes because of how young he was when he turned pro. There's also the issue of Canelo jumping weight classes very quickly, without the normal repercussions, such as body fat and other performance issues. Most boxers (if not all) who jump weight classes are using PEDs to do so. HGH, T, Clen, those type of drugs. (To be fair however, the lower weight classes it's easier to do so because the jump in weight is not as significant as it is in the higher weight classes.) It's biologically impossible to make these leaps. I know people love Manny, but he's a classic example of someone using PEDs to climb the weight classes. Beterbiev is a devout Muslim, so he doesn't use drugs to maneuver in boxing. This is likely whey he's still at light heavy. Well as far as drug use. THEY ALL DO IT. I don’t care what they say. Especially at the ELITE level. They can afford to pay for people who know how to pass tests. One thing that boxing NEVER does that cycling does. They will test your blood YEARS LATER. That’s how these guys pop. BOXING WILL NEVER DO THIS. U KNOW WHY. The B/s about it being easier to go up in weight being smaller is bull sheeit. It’s the same across the board. U ever wonder why you don’t see guys like Usyk or Holyfield trying to weigh 240 pounds? Believe me. They could but don’t cause their not stupid.

He gained weight thinking it would help to beat Fury. He’s naturally much lighter. Use to be under 220. Beterbiev going up 2 weight classes is still less than Canelo going up 4 weight classes Sure. Fair enough, but Beterbiev fought in the amateurs for a long time, so by the time he went into the pros, he was a mature adult. Canelo was able to fight in the lower weight classes because of how young he was when he turned pro. There's also the issue of Canelo jumping weight classes very quickly, without the normal repercussions, such as body fat and other performance issues. Most boxers (if not all) who jump weight classes are using PEDs to do so. HGH, T, Clen, those type of drugs. (To be fair however, the lower weight classes it's easier to do so because the jump in weight is not as significant as it is in the higher weight classes.) It's biologically impossible to make these leaps. I know people love Manny, but he's a classic example of someone using PEDs to climb the weight classes. Beterbiev is a devout Muslim, so he doesn't use drugs to maneuver in boxing. This is likely whey he's still at light heavy.

Wilder weighs 238 pounds. Beterbiev has to make weight at 175 pounds. That's a 63 pound difference. That should answer your question. He gained weight thinking it would help to beat Fury. He’s naturally much lighter. Use to be under 220. Beterbiev going up 2 weight classes is still less than Canelo going up 4 weight classes

Canelo vs Beterbiev is the best fight that can be made in Boxing!!! It is the #1 fight that I would order on PPV.

Maybe but do us think Beterbiev would challenge Wilder? He’s only like 15 pounds up. Wilder weighs 238 pounds. Beterbiev has to make weight at 175 pounds. That's a 63 pound difference. That should answer your question.

Well, I hope it happens so the world can see exactly what happens. I think Canelo will announce his retirement after the fight, from a hospital bed. :lol1: Maybe but do us think Beterbiev would challenge Wilder? He’s only like 15 pounds up.

LOL, Canelo IS NOT going to stand in front of him. He will EXPOSE HIM. Make it look EASY TOO. Add the last 3 European fighters together and that’s the fight he will have with the Russian. Watch Mayweather vs Corrales. That’s the same fight we’re going to see. Well, I hope it happens so the world can see exactly what happens. I think Canelo will announce his retirement after the fight, from a hospital bed. :lol1:

Has Bieterbiev ever talked about fighting Wilder or Usyk? I didn’t think so. Why not though?

I always remember this interview with Lionell Thompson, talking about sparring Beterbiev. And after last nights fight, I remembered it. Listen to Lionell talk about sparring Beterbiev at 4:30: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J2zypUFzVo There is no way Canelo is going to fight Beterbiev. Canelo's pressure style will not work because he can't trade with Artur. That's suicide. His other option is fighting on the back foot like he did GGG the first time, and we all saw what happens when you get stuck on the ropes. Canelo will turn down that fight for the next five years. Even when Beterbiev is 40, Canelo will still avoid him, so we can stop entertaining this fight happening. LOL, Canelo IS NOT going to stand in front of him. He will EXPOSE HIM. Make it look EASY TOO. Add the last 3 European fighters together and that’s the fight he will have with the Russian. Watch Mayweather vs Corrales. That’s the same fight we’re going to see.

- - OK, we get U POV as the resident BS Sissyboy, but Mak and WBC and Canelo on board with full cruiser limit of 200, and U on board with being congenital sissy unable to understand natural male hormones...thanks for the update...:flowers1::yeah: Oh oh ... and another triggered fool :lol1: This is too easy. I don't even have to try. I will have to say, however, that you're English is terrible, especially for an Englishman. :lol1: Is English your second language? If it is, I do apologize. :lol1: If I understand your argument, then you have actually put Canelo in a worse light because if he fights Makabu at 200 pounds, then the amount of anabolic steroids and cutting agents he'll have to use to achieve that weight, without looking like a doughboy, is astronomical. You've actually put Canelo in a worse light if this is true. It also means that you're not a fan of the sport but just a fanboy. :lol1:

That's a good point. My criticism for his fighting Makabu is that on the face of things, it looks as if he's the greatest fighter of this century. On the face of things. However, when you look past the surface, you see a boxer who can only achieve that higher weight class by taking steroids, using PEDs. You can't go up that much weight, while retaining eight percent body fat, without the help of drugs. It might be possible at age 21 but not at age 32. Then, if you take into account that it will likely be at 190 pounds, thereby making it more feasible to increase his mass while forcing Makabu to shrink down to a weight he probably can't safely make, it is not that impressive. However, to the audience at large, he looks like superman. But it's an illusion, just like so much of his career. I should go through and see how many fighters he fought were he had at least a 10 year age advantage. It's got to be about 20 boxers he's fought while they were well past their prime. Floyd was a "cherry pick" gone wrong. Maybe Beterbiev will be a cherry pick gone wrong. He's already asked Arum about fighting him, so let's see. - - OK, we get U POV as the resident BS Sissyboy, but Mak and WBC and Canelo on board with full cruiser limit of 200, and U on board with being congenital sissy unable to understand natural male hormones...thanks for the update...:flowers1::yeah:

I understand what you're saying and I don't disagree with the overall sentiment that Canelo has been the beneficiary of favourable treatment during his career and that his legacy isn't quite as extraordinary as the smoke and mirrors would have you believe, but there is still a lot to like. The way he's walked through three undefeated title-holders at 168 in Smith, Saunders and Plant more or less in a row is undeniably impressive no matter how you slice it. He held no natural advantages there. If any other middleweight had stepped up and done that they'd be deserving of very high praise too. Anyway, I get what you're saying. I agree, on paper he can be made to look like something he's not. But what he is, is actually pretty damn good all the same. Yeah. I think, however, that Plant brought up a valid point. He had been vocal about PED use coming from the Canelo camp. He wanted and extended drug testing period, which Canelo didn't want and didn't agree to. And the issue there was that Alvarez had enough time to complete a cycle if he wanted to. The fact that he was unwilling to be tested 12 weeks out from the fight is not a good look, and it certainly does raise red flags. Then you look at Smith and how he only had four weeks to prepare for Alvarez. I don't know what condition he was in before those four weeks, but it might have been a situation where he spent all his time trying to cut the weight as fast as possible. Actually, I just looked on Boxingscene.com and this is what Smith said about the four weeks notice: “It’s either they believe in their own ability and want to fight the best and want to take on the biggest challenge possible,” Smith told BoxingScene.com. “Or maybe they think they’re catching me on short notice and maybe reading into me last performance and maybe think the weight’s hurting me. I don’t know. Listen, only they know that. All I know is I feel a hundred percent, I feel really good, and I believe the best version of me steps through them ropes this weekend. And if that’s the case, then I believe I’ll win.” It's the fault of all of these guys for taking the fight. I think Plant could have held out and forced Alvarez to his terms because Alvarez was desperate for that last belt. So it's just the fault of all of these guys for signing the contract. But I suppose money can be very persuasive. Aside from all of that, "yes," I agree—Canelo is a damn good boxer. But is he a "great" boxer? When all of his wins to this point are qualified by opponents in disadvantageous situations and Canelo seemingly "cheating" to put himself in advantageous situations? Maybe ... but right now, I have to say he's not "great."

When was the last Killer Canelo fought? GGG? How many has he fought in his entire career? GG. He never fights Beterbiev.

I think the Gvozdyk fight was an eye opener for Bivol and a few others... And then there was Browne ... I mean, would you risk it all fighting Beterbiev ? ... I mean, seriously... It's a life changer ... Also... Bivol mentioned Artur very few times in the last couple years, and never really pushed for that fight to actually happen... :cool: What you on about. Bivol has been saying in every interview that he would love to fight Beterbiev. Beterbiev as well wants to fight Bivol in unification clash. However BoB arum says this fight won't make much money this is sucks hopefully rssians can make this fight happen

That's a good point. My criticism for his fighting Makabu is that on the face of things, it looks as if he's the greatest fighter of this century. On the face of things. However, when you look past the surface, you see a boxer who can only achieve that higher weight class by taking steroids, using PEDs. You can't go up that much weight, while retaining eight percent body fat, without the help of drugs. It might be possible at age 21 but not at age 32. Then, if you take into account that it will likely be at 190 pounds, thereby making it more feasible to increase his mass while forcing Makabu to shrink down to a weight he probably can't safely make, it is not that impressive. However, to the audience at large, he looks like superman. But it's an illusion, just like so much of his career. I should go through and see how many fighters he fought were he had at least a 10 year age advantage. It's got to be about 20 boxers he's fought while they were well past their prime. Floyd was a "cherry pick" gone wrong. Maybe Beterbiev will be a cherry pick gone wrong. He's already asked Arum about fighting him, so let's see. I understand what you're saying and I don't disagree with the overall sentiment that Canelo has been the beneficiary of favourable treatment during his career and that his legacy isn't quite as extraordinary as the smoke and mirrors would have you believe, but there is still a lot to like. The way he's walked through three undefeated title-holders at 168 in Smith, Saunders and Plant more or less in a row is undeniably impressive no matter how you slice it. He held no natural advantages there. If any other middleweight had stepped up and done that they'd be deserving of very high praise too. Anyway, I get what you're saying. I agree, on paper he can be made to look like something he's not. But what he is, is actually pretty damn good all the same.

Most of the time, cars will swerve into other cars to avoid hitting a person standing in traffic, or come to a complete stop.

"I sparred with him a few times and that's by far the worst... thing I've ever experienced in life." That's a helluva quote lol. Canelo won't beat Beterbiev, nor should he be expected to. The fight against Kovalev was a one off, just like this fight against Makabu at cruiser. Yes, they're banking on Makabu being the right guy at the right time like Kovalev was and like John Ruiz was for Roy Jones at heavyweight, but that doesn't mean it's a gimme fight or that Canelo should be expected to take on all comers at cruiser and/or light-heavy thereafter. Name another current super-middle who would jump up to cruiser and face a guy like Makabu. Not a single one and understandably so, the gap from 168-200lbs is huge. I'm not a fan of everything Canelo has done in his career, but the standard he's currently held to compared to other fighters - champions even - is ridiculous. If Canelo fights Beterbiev within the next two years he will deserve a lot of credit for even taking on the challenge, win or lose. If he doesn't, he won't be "ducking" him any more than any other 168lber is, and I don't see criticism thrown their way for it. That's a good point. My criticism for his fighting Makabu is that on the face of things, it looks as if he's the greatest fighter of this century. On the face of things. However, when you look past the surface, you see a boxer who can only achieve that higher weight class by taking steroids, using PEDs. You can't go up that much weight, while retaining eight percent body fat, without the help of drugs. It might be possible at age 21 but not at age 32. Then, if you take into account that it will likely be at 190 pounds, thereby making it more feasible to increase his mass while forcing Makabu to shrink down to a weight he probably can't safely make, it is not that impressive. However, to the audience at large, he looks like superman. But it's an illusion, just like so much of his career. I should go through and see how many fighters he fought were he had at least a 10 year age advantage. It's got to be about 20 boxers he's fought while they were well past their prime. Floyd was a "cherry pick" gone wrong. Maybe Beterbiev will be a cherry pick gone wrong. He's already asked Arum about fighting him, so let's see.

"I sparred with him a few times and that's by far the worst... thing I've ever experienced in life." That's a helluva quote lol. Canelo won't beat Beterbiev, nor should he be expected to. The fight against Kovalev was a one off, just like this fight against Makabu at cruiser. Yes, they're banking on Makabu being the right guy at the right time like Kovalev was and like John Ruiz was for Roy Jones at heavyweight, but that doesn't mean it's a gimme fight or that Canelo should be expected to take on all comers at cruiser and/or light-heavy thereafter. Name another current super-middle who would jump up to cruiser and face a guy like Makabu. Not a single one and understandably so, the gap from 168-200lbs is huge. I'm not a fan of everything Canelo has done in his career, but the standard he's currently held to compared to other fighters - champions even - is ridiculous. If Canelo fights Beterbiev within the next two years he will deserve a lot of credit for even taking on the challenge, win or lose. If he doesn't, he won't be "ducking" him any more than any other 168lber is, and I don't see criticism thrown their way for it.

Kovalev knocked this guy out in the 3rd round If power was everything in boxing, Wilder, Foreman, Kovalev, Shavers, Tyson, etc would've retired undefeated Kovalev KO'd a guy with a jab to the body. He even killed a man in the ring (RIP) Beterbiev avoided a fight with Kovalev for a reason. The amateurs are different than the pros AB presents nothing Canelo has never seen Well, I think we are going to see how Canelo handled Beterbiev very soon here. I've taken out my crystal ball and see this fighting occurring sometime in the summer of 2022. I also see Canelo, at the end of summer, announcing his retirement from a hospital bed. :lol1: